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RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 11, 2012

(Nov. 10, 2012  10:28 PM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Equipment:
BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
3 Segment Grip
Beylauncher w/ Launcher Rubber

Not using any metal faces in this batch of testing, since it's all stamina tests.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Scythe first on evens. WD's switched after 10 rounds.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Phantom: 6 (4 OS, 2 KO)
Scythe: 14 (8 OS, 6 KO)
Phantom Win %: 30%
Scythe Win %: 70%

Well, I have a theory for this battle. Since Scythe sits much lower on tracks than Phantom does, is more circular, and has less recoil, Phantom was at a huge disadvantage. Scythe sits much lower on AD145 than Phantom, so it can get under and destabilize Phantom, and occasionally KOing it. The WD conditions are about the same, so I don't think they affected the results very much.

I put them both up against an old top stamina custom, Hell Kerbecs BD145WD. Why not a more current stamina setup? Let's be honest, these things have no chance against 4D stamina combos, let alone any Synchrome. If you want me to posts tests of them getting slaughtered, I don't mind, but yeah...

Anyways, this will at least give us a better idea of which is better.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Phantom: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Hell: 13 (9 OS, 4 KO)
Phantom Win %: 35%
Hell Win %: 65%

The OS's were terribly close every time if it was in Phantoms favor. If Phantom OS'd it, it was a miracle, and it barely did it.

Now for Scythe chance at glory.

Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Scythe launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Scythe: 5 (5 OS, 0 KO)
Hell: 15 (15 OS, 0 KO)
Scythe Win %: 25%
Hell Win %: 75%

Albeit Scythe got a lower result than Phantom, I'd say they're about equal. I wish I had two W145's so I could compare them a little better.

Some attack tests I did the other day:

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer W145MF vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
Phantom : 13 (12 OS, 1 KO)
Duo: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Phantom Win %: 65.0%
Duo Win %: 35.0%

Not quite as good as the real deal, but I found this to be quite surprising..

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer TH170R2F vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
Phantom : 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Duo: 5 (4 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 0.0%
Duo Win %: 100.0%

I dunno why I did this, lol

Did this the other day too:

Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer 90WD vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
Phantom : 7 (7 OS, 0 KO)
Duo : 3 (2 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 70.0%
Duo Win %: 30.0%

Long boring battles. Bleh. Phantom seemed to have the upper hand, but not by much. I was expecting these results.
So Hasbro Scythe is better than Hasbro Phantom....Just sad


RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - Raigeko13 - Nov. 11, 2012

It's still too early to make conclusions. I'll do some spin times.

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 18, 2012

So I wanted to test Hasbro Phantom in a Balance type use which is MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS (I dont have a Cancer CW)


My Tests:


MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Death Aquario E230RDF
Spoiler (Click to View)


MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD[b][u]
Spoiler (Click to View)

[b][u]MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs MF Diablo Aquario TH170MB I dont have a second BD145 so TH170 is the substitude,I have a second CS but it is not worn down so MB is the substitude
Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Hell Kerbecs AD145WD I dont have a second BD145 so I thought AD145 was the best substitude
Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Phantom Bull AD145WD
Spoiler (Click to View)
Im still having trouble trying to post pictures

UGottaCetus's request will happen probably tommorow

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 18, 2012

Ok so UGottaCetus's requests will be done


MF Phantom Aquario 85MF


I don't have Cygnus or Hades so Aquario will be used

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs MF Death Aquario E230RDF
Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD
Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs MF Diablo Aquario BD145CS
Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Phantom Bull AD145WD
Spoiler (Click to View)


RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - UGottaCetus - Nov. 21, 2012

It seemed to do only decently at best. Maybe 90 would be better for it.....
Anyway, Cygnus and Hades play a fairly significant role that custom, so I think if they were used, it would have done better. But thanks alot for the test, definitely interesting.

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - Raigeko13 - Nov. 22, 2012

Thank God Hasbro's releasing the regular Phantom now.

I'll have the spin times up tomorrow.

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 22, 2012

(Nov. 22, 2012  1:15 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Thank God Hasbro's releasing the regular Phantom now.

I'll have the spin times up tomorrow.

I'm curious to see your spin times,I think I will do some spin times as well.

And yes Hasbro is Releasing a regular Phantom now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhIvDiWQCM&feature=plcp

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - Dark Aquario 55 - Nov. 28, 2012

IF I WAS YOU GUYS I WOULD NEVER BUY PHANTOM ORION (HASBRO)

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 28, 2012

(Nov. 28, 2012  2:06 AM)HARITH2001 Wrote: IF I WAS YOU GUYS I WOULD NEVER BUY PHANTOM ORION (HASBRO)

Well,it is pretty decent,so I wouldn't just say it is not worth buying.It would be a pretty decent substitude if you didn't have a TT Phantom,but i would buy TT version for sure.

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - Raigeko13 - Nov. 28, 2012

No, it isn't a "decent" substitute, I'm sure it can be beaten by even Earth...

*ding ding ding*

Brb, testing that claim.

(along with those damn spin times I never did)

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 28, 2012

(Nov. 28, 2012  3:57 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: No, it isn't a "decent" substitute, I'm sure it can be beaten by even Earth...

*ding ding ding*

Brb, testing that claim.

(along with those damn spin times I never did)

I guess it's time for me to test.I will test it against 2 outclassed stamina MW's,Earth and Burn.Hopefully it will do good.Test result will be up by 1-2 Days.Or 3 Tongue_out

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - Raigeko13 - Nov. 28, 2012

Equipment: BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
Beylauncher with Launcher Rubber on a 3 Seg.
WD's new.


MF-F Phantom (Hasbro Mold) Aquario AD145WD vs. MF-F Earth Aquario AD145WD
WDs switched after 10 rounds.
Phantom launched first on evens, Earth on odds.

Detailed results (Click to View)
Phantom: 1 (1 OS) 7% win rate.
Earth: 14 (14 OS) 93% win rate.

Well, that was depressing.
I stopped at 15 because I thought that maybe one of my WDs was jank, and that after I switched them, Phantom might get an advantage.
NOPE.

So, Earth > Hasbro Phantom.
... good God.

I'm not gonna do the solo spin times. I figure it's pretty obvious now what the outcome will be now.

RE: [Metal Fury] Phantom Discussion - BeybladePants11 - Nov. 28, 2012

(Nov. 28, 2012  6:48 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Equipment: BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
Beylauncher with Launcher Rubber on a 3 Seg.
WD's new.


MF-F Phantom (Hasbro Mold) Aquario AD145WD vs. MF-F Earth Aquario AD145WD
WDs switched after 10 rounds.
Phantom launched first on evens, Earth on odds.

Detailed results (Click to View)
Phantom: 1 (1 OS) 7% win rate.
Earth: 14 (14 OS) 93% win rate.

Well, that was depressing.
I stopped at 15 because I thought that maybe one of my WDs was jank, and that after I switched them, Phantom might get an advantage.
NOPE.

So, Earth > Hasbro Phantom.
... good God.

I'm not gonna do the solo spin times. I figure it's pretty obvious now what the outcome will be now.

......Why Hasbro.Just why.So I have been testing this against Burn Bull AD145WD and here are my results so here you go


Phantom (Hasbro,duh) Bull AD145WD vs Burn Bull AD145WD
Spoiler (Click to View)
You were correct.


EDIT:I don't think im going to do the rest.The results will just be embarrassing.


EDIT x2:would*