(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:02 AM)eigerblade Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

Where do you get this information?

(Apr. 08, 2020  6:31 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  2:47 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: 2a looks like it has the same teeth as slash 🤦🏾‍♂️

1A and 1B don't have very impressive teeth and hold together so much better than 1S and it's amazingly good tooth composition due to more of the chassis adding to layer weight than disk and driver weight, effectively acting like a heavy layer with a lightweight disk.

As a result, a double chassis like 2A doesn't need the best teeth in the world, as even mediocre teeth will hold together far stronger than a single chassis does. If 2A does have the same super deep twin teeth as the Valkyrie chip then it actually looks really, really good and is probably going to be a monster in terms of burst resistance.

So, uh... why the facepalm then?

(Apr. 08, 2020  12:34 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:02 AM)eigerblade Wrote: Where do you get this information?

watch zankyes new vid.

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(Apr. 08, 2020  6:31 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: 1A and 1B don't have very impressive teeth and hold together so much better than 1S and it's amazingly good tooth composition due to more of the chassis adding to layer weight than disk and driver weight, effectively acting like a heavy layer with a lightweight disk.

As a result, a double chassis like 2A doesn't need the best teeth in the world, as even mediocre teeth will hold together far stronger than a single chassis does. If 2A does have the same super deep twin teeth as the Valkyrie chip then it actually looks really, really good and is probably going to be a monster in terms of burst resistance.

So, uh... why the facepalm then?

judging from zankyes new analysis vid its looking like takara tomy are repeating the same mistakes with giving valkyrie only 2 teeth

however, only time will tell

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:05 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  12:34 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: watch zankyes new vid.

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judging from zankyes new analysis vid its looking like takara tomy are repeating the same mistakes with giving valkyrie only 2 teeth

however, only time will tell

How was it a mistake when slash was the problem?

(Apr. 08, 2020  12:34 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:02 AM)eigerblade Wrote: Where do you get this information?

watch zankyes new vid.

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judging from zankyes new analysis vid its looking like takara tomy are repeating the same mistakes with giving valkyrie only 2 teeth

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:15 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: I completely agree with MagikHorse's statement. It's actually pretty rare for Double Chassis combos to Burst in battle. I even had a hard time trying to get Glide Ragnaruk Bearing 1B to Burst, and that combo's teeth feel about as bad or worse than stock Deep Chaos. The two big teeth might even help in an unexpected way. Instead of requiring the use of a Dash Driver, these teeth along with the boost in Burst Resistance caused by a Double Chassis can allow you to use the non-Dash version of a Driver on the 1A combo and the Dash version on another combo when playing in the WBO Deck Format, wbba 3 on 3 format, and wbba 5G format.

(Apr. 08, 2020  5:24 PM)MajestiqMike Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  4:15 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: I completely agree with MagikHorse's statement. It's actually pretty rare for Double Chassis combos to Burst in battle. I even had a hard time trying to get Glide Ragnaruk Bearing 1B to Burst, and that combo's teeth feel about as bad or worse than stock Deep Chaos. The two big teeth might even help in an unexpected way. Instead of requiring the use of a Dash Driver, these teeth along with the boost in Burst Resistance caused by a Double Chassis can allow you to use the non-Dash version of a Driver on the 1A combo and the Dash version on another combo when playing in the WBO Deck Format, wbba 3 on 3 format, and wbba 5G format.

I haven't had any luck with burst resistance with that exact same Glide Ragnaruk combo. Battled my nephew with a Revive Phoenix 13 Survive combo and it burst back to back on 2 separate occassions. I will say that switching from bearing to assault' resulted in 3 os and a burst finish for Ragnaruk and no wins for Revive Phoenix. Personally I'd probably have to go with a dash on it if the teeth are truly as weak as some are claiming. But that's a very good point on being able to reserve dash drivers to other combos.

(Apr. 08, 2020  12:34 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: judging from zankyes new analysis vid its looking like takara tomy are repeating the same mistakes with giving valkyrie only 2 teeth

however, only time will tell

(Apr. 08, 2020  7:40 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  12:34 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: judging from zankyes new analysis vid its looking like takara tomy are repeating the same mistakes with giving valkyrie only 2 teeth

however, only time will tell

I don't see a mistake in this. I simply see a new aspect of Valkyrie design they've decided to carry over, and I don't agree that it's a negative one. As I said, these super deep teeth are going to be virtually unburstable on a double chassis, presuming they';re as deep as Valkyrie's GT chip. Even if they're not, it should still work out fine.

Similarly I agree that the picture that Zankye used is not only too blurry but at such a bad angle that I don't even know hoe he sees the teeth to make any call on their depth or position. It feels more like a guess than an actual claim, especially with so much jpeg artifacting making that image even murkier. As a result, I'm not convinced on anything he says regarding 2A's teeth in the slightest.

Let's get a picture we can actually clearly see the teeth with before we freak out over it, and remember that even half-baked teeth will do on a double chassis.

(Apr. 08, 2020  8:38 PM)originalzankye Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  7:40 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: I don't see a mistake in this. I simply see a new aspect of Valkyrie design they've decided to carry over, and I don't agree that it's a negative one. As I said, these super deep teeth are going to be virtually unburstable on a double chassis, presuming they';re as deep as Valkyrie's GT chip. Even if they're not, it should still work out fine.

Similarly I agree that the picture that Zankye used is not only too blurry but at such a bad angle that I don't even know hoe he sees the teeth to make any call on their depth or position. It feels more like a guess than an actual claim, especially with so much jpeg artifacting making that image even murkier. As a result, I'm not convinced on anything he says regarding 2A's teeth in the slightest.

Let's get a picture we can actually clearly see the teeth with before we freak out over it, and remember that even half-baked teeth will do on a double chassis.

To clarify,

It's extremely blurry which is why I never claimed that Valkyrie is confirmed to have sucky teeth so I don't know where they got that from. The picture used I believe was from the twitter post zoomed in which even then I don't know why they jumped to a big conclusion. I even fact-checked myself before I replied with Hussainthetank and eigerblade's comments. 

I never said the teeth were the same as Slash and didn't even conclude that it would have bad teeth I said that teeth are important and IF the teeth on the chassis aren't going to be that good and then that will affect the stock combo, that was it. The only thing that should've been mentioned was the fact that 2A is a double chassis. No where did I say "yeah the teeth are horrible and it's the same as Slash"

Don't know why Hussainthetank and Eiger misrepresented what I said.

(Apr. 08, 2020  8:38 PM)originalzankye Wrote: To clarify,

I never said the teeth were the same as Slash and didn't even conclude that it would have bad teeth I said that teeth are important and IF the teeth on the chassis aren't going to be that good and then that will affect the stock combo, that was it. The only thing that should've been mentioned was the fact that 2A is a double chassis. No where did I say "yeah the teeth are horrible and it's the same as Slash"

(Apr. 08, 2020  8:38 PM)originalzankye Wrote: I never said the teeth were the same as Slash and didn't even conclude that it would have bad teeth I said that teeth are important and IF the teeth on the chassis aren't going to be that good and then that will affect the stock combo, that was it. The only thing that should've been mentioned was the fact that 2A is a double chassis. No where did I say "yeah the teeth are horrible and it's the same as Slash"

(Apr. 09, 2020  5:43 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:

(Apr. 08, 2020  8:38 PM)originalzankye Wrote: I never said the teeth were the same as Slash and didn't even conclude that it would have bad teeth I said that teeth are important and IF the teeth on the chassis aren't going to be that good and then that will affect the stock combo, that was it. The only thing that should've been mentioned was the fact that 2A is a double chassis. No where did I say "yeah the teeth are horrible and it's the same as Slash"

Watching said video, you said the following: "...because the teeth on the chassis aren't very good for the stock combo for Brave." This is verbatim while the zoomed in image of 2A was on screen just after you mention that teeth matter, and then you sorta trail off and start stuttering and make it really hard to connect what you're stuttering to what you've just said. It's even harder to differentiate from a claim as you never say "if" the teeth aren't good (or at least I can't hear it anywhere in there if you did), and I'm not really hearing much else to insinuate that this is a hypothetical.

I don't know where they got the "they're like Slash Valkyrie's teeth" part from, but this unclear hypothetical line is pretty obviously why they started to panic about 2A having terrible teeth from. Maybe a second take to get things out better without stuttering over it would've helped prevent this miscommunication? I'm not sure, but the truth is we know what happened here now and can move on from it.

(Apr. 09, 2020  6:43 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: snip

(Apr. 09, 2020  7:34 PM)Nitrogenic Wrote: Can we all agree that the valkyrie Gt chip has good teeth?