Dec. 30, 2013 11:56 PM
Purpose: Add an unsynchromed Zero-G bey to the list of viable attack beys. Gravity is so spammed at many of the tournaments. Hopefully this could be a bey that virtually everybody has, that is an effective alternative. Maybe it will help keep Gravity from getting banned, or maybe it could even prove to be better in certain situations.
Why Theif Phoenic?
I've noticed this for a while and tried to find some use for Phoenic as a bottom wheel where the "wings" protrude like the points on Blitz. When Phoenic is on top they are going the wrong way to be useful.
R145: It adds weight as well as is just a natural good fit on many 3 sided beys whether attack or defense.
H145 R145 gets OWNED by LTDC, so I tried H145 and had much better success vs LTDC.
R2F Condition is brand new to produce as much speed as possible although it does have increased recoil this way.
Total weight: 46.68 grams
Tests
M
Ok this was my first Testing thread. Constructive criticism and advice is appreciated. Further testing will happen too especially against defense. The defensive list is rather small right now but I'm thinking this combo could definitely have trouble against LTDC as well.
Why Theif Phoenic?
I've noticed this for a while and tried to find some use for Phoenic as a bottom wheel where the "wings" protrude like the points on Blitz. When Phoenic is on top they are going the wrong way to be useful.
R145: It adds weight as well as is just a natural good fit on many 3 sided beys whether attack or defense.
H145 R145 gets OWNED by LTDC, so I tried H145 and had much better success vs LTDC.
R2F Condition is brand new to produce as much speed as possible although it does have increased recoil this way.
Total weight: 46.68 grams
Tests
M
R145 Defensive Test (Click to View)
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MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Sag II TH170CS
Phoenic: 12 wins (0 OS, 12 KO)
Earth: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO do to wall save and Phoenic recoil)
Phoenic Win %: 60%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. Bandit Revizer (crystal mode down) GB145RSF
Phoenic: 13 wins (2 OS, 11 KO)
Revizer: 7 wins (4 OS, 3 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 65%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Phoenic: 1 win (0 OS, 1 KO)
Leone: 9 win (5 OS, 4 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 10%
The R145 was proven a disaster in this battle Bakushin if it didn't get under and launch it, it at a minimum killed all of its spin.
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Sag II TH170CS
Phoenic: 12 wins (0 OS, 12 KO)
Earth: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO do to wall save and Phoenic recoil)
Phoenic Win %: 60%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. Bandit Revizer (crystal mode down) GB145RSF
Phoenic: 13 wins (2 OS, 11 KO)
Revizer: 7 wins (4 OS, 3 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 65%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Phoenic: 1 win (0 OS, 1 KO)
Leone: 9 win (5 OS, 4 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 10%
The R145 was proven a disaster in this battle Bakushin if it didn't get under and launch it, it at a minimum killed all of its spin.
H145 Defensive Tests (Click to View)
new tests Jan 6
Vs. MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Phoenic H145: 12 wins (0 OS, 12 KO)
Leone: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
Phoenic H145 Win %: 60%
H145 was a definite improvement vs. the LTDC. will have to use it to test against Gravity again.
Vs. Earth Sag II GB145RSF
Phoenic: 13 wins (0 OS, 13 KO)
Earth GB145: 7 wins (7 OS, 0 KO)
Phoenic win%: 65%
For Th!nk Vs. Earth Sag II R145RSF
Phoenic: 9 wins (0 OS, 9 KO)
Earth R145: 11 wins (10 OS, 1 KO)
Phoenic win%: 45%
Vs. Libra 85RSF
Phoenic: 1 win (0 OS, 1 KO)
Libra: 9 wins (6 OS, 3 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 10%
Vs. MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RSF
Phoenic H145: 12 wins (0 OS, 12 KO)
Leone: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 KO)
Phoenic H145 Win %: 60%
H145 was a definite improvement vs. the LTDC. will have to use it to test against Gravity again.
Vs. Earth Sag II GB145RSF
Phoenic: 13 wins (0 OS, 13 KO)
Earth GB145: 7 wins (7 OS, 0 KO)
Phoenic win%: 65%
For Th!nk Vs. Earth Sag II R145RSF
Phoenic: 9 wins (0 OS, 9 KO)
Earth R145: 11 wins (10 OS, 1 KO)
Phoenic win%: 45%
Vs. Libra 85RSF
Phoenic: 1 win (0 OS, 1 KO)
Libra: 9 wins (6 OS, 3 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 10%
Stamina Tests (Click to View)
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. Burn Cygnus 230D
Phoenic: 9 wins (0 OS, 9 KO)
Burn: 1 win (1 OS,0 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 90%
only did 10 rounds because this was actually obvious, even on Burn's 1 win I think it went off of all 3 walls.
Phoenic: 9 wins (0 OS, 9 KO)
Burn: 1 win (1 OS,0 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 90%
only did 10 rounds because this was actually obvious, even on Burn's 1 win I think it went off of all 3 walls.
Attack Tests (Click to View)
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. Gravity Perseus D125RF Left Spin
Phoenic R145: 6 wins (0 OS, 6 KO)
Gravity: 14 wins (4 OS, 10 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 30%
Gravity's height played a big role in this Phoenic kept coming over top of it and Gravity was able to launch it up between the R145. Gravity also stood there like a wall after a few of the hits, but Phoenic was able to do some damage.
MSF-H Theif Phoenic H145R2F vs. Gravity Perseus D125RF Left Spin
Phoenic H145: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Gravity: 13 wins (3 OS, 10 KO)
Phoenic H145 win %: 35%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs MSF-H Samurai Wyvang CH120RF (crystal mode up)
Phoenic: 10 wins (2 OS, 8 KO)
Wyvang: 10 wins (6 OS, 4 KO)
The R145 and R2F were a definite drag when it came down to the stamina after a few good hits CH120RF provided much better stamina contributing for the OS wins.
Phoenic R145: 6 wins (0 OS, 6 KO)
Gravity: 14 wins (4 OS, 10 KO)
Phoenic Win %: 30%
Gravity's height played a big role in this Phoenic kept coming over top of it and Gravity was able to launch it up between the R145. Gravity also stood there like a wall after a few of the hits, but Phoenic was able to do some damage.
MSF-H Theif Phoenic H145R2F vs. Gravity Perseus D125RF Left Spin
Phoenic H145: 7 wins (0 OS, 7 KO)
Gravity: 13 wins (3 OS, 10 KO)
Phoenic H145 win %: 35%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs MSF-H Samurai Wyvang CH120RF (crystal mode up)
Phoenic: 10 wins (2 OS, 8 KO)
Wyvang: 10 wins (6 OS, 4 KO)
The R145 and R2F were a definite drag when it came down to the stamina after a few good hits CH120RF provided much better stamina contributing for the OS wins.
L's Tests (Click to View)
(Jan. 03, 2014 12:11 AM)" L Wrote: [ -> ]MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF
Phoenic: 11 win (0 OS, 11 KO)
Earth: 9 win (9 OS's, 0 KO's)
Phoenic Win %: 55%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic R145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Bull 230RSF
Phoenic: 10 win (0 OS, 10 KO)
Earth: 10 win (10 OS's, 0 KO's)
Phoenic Win %: 50%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic H145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Bull GB145RSF
Phoenic: 12 win (0 OS, 12 KO)
Earth: 8 win (8 OS's, 0 KO's)
Phoenic Win %: 60%
MSF-H Theif Phoenic H145R2F vs. MF-H Earth Bull 230RSF
Phoenic: 10 win (0 OS, 10 KO)
Earth: 10 win (10 OS's, 0 KO's)
Phoenic Win %: 50%
(Jan. 09, 2014 6:03 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]Tested this as part of my batch testing of chrome wheels for attack in Right Spin HERE
Spoilers: It's better than everything I have, including wyvang, in Right. I really love this combo haha.
(Jan. 09, 2014 10:46 PM)" L Wrote: [ -> ]MSF-H Theif Phoenic H145R2F vs MF-H Bakushin Leone 90RB
Phoenic: 12/20 (0 OS'S, 12 KO'S)
Bakushin: 8/20 (7 OS'S, 1 KO)
Phoenic win %: 60%
I thought my H145 was going to snap-in-half, haha.
This is one of my favorite customs.
Ok this was my first Testing thread. Constructive criticism and advice is appreciated. Further testing will happen too especially against defense. The defensive list is rather small right now but I'm thinking this combo could definitely have trouble against LTDC as well.