Feb. 20, 2011 1:33 PM
130 is tall enough to kill 230! As well as expose Flame's "grinder surface" as in the ridge that AD145 can cover if used.
conditions:
standard conditions
attack type stadium
BeyLauncher-L/R with Beylauncher Extension for both combos
alternating launches
the WD's are switched after 10 rounds
both bottoms are mint
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Flame Cancer130WD: FC130WD
Burn Bull 85 WD: BB85WD
Burn Bull 145 WD: BB145WD
Burn Bull 230 WD: BB230WD
Burn Bull 230 D: BB230D
Hell Kerbecs 230 WD: HK230WD
Hell Kerbecs 230 D: HK230D
Hell Kerbecs BD145 WD: HKBD145WD
Hell Kerbecs BD145 D: HKBD145D
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so overall, Flame Cancer 130 WD is a viable option to counter and rival Burn Bull 85/145 WD. 230 is destabilized rather consistently
please help test further for the greater good of all beybladers world-wide.
other member's tests
Azlanslayer
ControL_
SSJfisherman
Mr. N
thx people who tested this combo
conditions:
standard conditions
attack type stadium
BeyLauncher-L/R with Beylauncher Extension for both combos
alternating launches
the WD's are switched after 10 rounds
both bottoms are mint
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Flame Cancer130WD: FC130WD
Burn Bull 85 WD: BB85WD
Burn Bull 145 WD: BB145WD
Burn Bull 230 WD: BB230WD
Burn Bull 230 D: BB230D
Hell Kerbecs 230 WD: HK230WD
Hell Kerbecs 230 D: HK230D
Hell Kerbecs BD145 WD: HKBD145WD
Hell Kerbecs BD145 D: HKBD145D
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FC130WD vs BB85WD
FC130WD win rate: 12/20 (11 OS & 1 KO)
BB85WD win rate: 6/20 (4 OS & 2 KO)
2 draws
now, you may think that BB85WD will destabilize FC130WD, but FC130WD forces BB85WD to the ground, reducing spin velocity and thus making FC130WD very effective in defeating BB85WD.
The most amazing kill of the tests were BB85WD's 1st KO, when FC130WD forced BB85 onto the ground, Burn made contact and "rolled" around the stadium, KOing FC130WD.
FC130WD win rate: 12/20 (11 OS & 1 KO)
BB85WD win rate: 6/20 (4 OS & 2 KO)
2 draws
now, you may think that BB85WD will destabilize FC130WD, but FC130WD forces BB85WD to the ground, reducing spin velocity and thus making FC130WD very effective in defeating BB85WD.
The most amazing kill of the tests were BB85WD's 1st KO, when FC130WD forced BB85 onto the ground, Burn made contact and "rolled" around the stadium, KOing FC130WD.
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FC130WD vs BB145WD
FC130WD win rate: 12/20 (11 OS & 1 KO)
BB145WD win rate: 6/20 (5 OS & 1 KO)
2 draws
FC's turn to destabilize LOL. FC had a lot of trouble with 145, the height rendered the force grind useless.
FC130WD win rate: 12/20 (11 OS & 1 KO)
BB145WD win rate: 6/20 (5 OS & 1 KO)
2 draws
FC's turn to destabilize LOL. FC had a lot of trouble with 145, the height rendered the force grind useless.
so overall, Flame Cancer 130 WD is a viable option to counter and rival Burn Bull 85/145 WD. 230 is destabilized rather consistently
please help test further for the greater good of all beybladers world-wide.
other member's tests
Azlanslayer
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Heck, i don't have another WD. So i had to use Hell Kerbecs BD145WD. I gave Hell Kerbecs a Handicap.
Standard Setup
Alternate shooting
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD Vs Flame Bull D125PD
Flame Bull: 0 wins
Hell Kerbecs: 10 wins
Shocking results... Will do WD Vs WD when my younger bro comes back.
Standard Setup
Alternate shooting
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD Vs Flame Bull D125PD
Flame Bull: 0 wins
Hell Kerbecs: 10 wins
Shocking results... Will do WD Vs WD when my younger bro comes back.
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OK guys - Before you make more combos, if its under 145 height, it will lose to 230 95% of the time.
Standard method for testing - 1v1.
Burn Cancer 130WD v MF-H Basalt Bull 230D
MF-H Basalt bull 230D easily obtains 100% win rates against Burn 85 var.
Now that's out of the way, the proof:
Burn Cancer = BC
Basalt Bull = BB
BB OS
BB OS
BB OS
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB OS
BC KO (dodgy first hit)
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB KO
Basalt Bull wins 14/15.
Also it gets 4 KOs and 10 OS.
Standard method for testing - 1v1.
Burn Cancer 130WD v MF-H Basalt Bull 230D
MF-H Basalt bull 230D easily obtains 100% win rates against Burn 85 var.
Now that's out of the way, the proof:
Burn Cancer = BC
Basalt Bull = BB
BB OS
BB OS
BB OS
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB OS
BC KO (dodgy first hit)
BB OS
BB KO
BB OS
BB KO
Basalt Bull wins 14/15.
Also it gets 4 KOs and 10 OS.
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I've got some results, they don't match the ones in the OP though...
I don't have 130, so I did 135 and t125 tests.
Standard procedures
Bottoms switched halfway
Alternating shots
Draws redone
All of the wins Against burn were due to burns recoil
Flame Cancer T125 WD
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Burn Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (1 os, 3 KO)
Burn Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Burn Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 5/10 (4 os, 1 KO)
Burn Bull: 5/10 (1 os, 4 KO)
Flame win %: 50
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Earth Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (4 os)
Earth Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Earth Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (4 os)
Earth Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40Flame Cancer 135 WD
Flame Cancer 135 WD vs Burn Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 0/10
Burn Bull: 10/10 (10 os)
1 draw
Flame win %: 0
Flame Cancer 135 WD vs Burn Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 3/10 (1 os, 2 KO)
Burn Bull: 7/10 (5 os, 2 KO)
Flame win %: 30
I didn't do 135 tests against earth, because at this point I had done 60 stamina battles
I honestly didn't expect more than 0% for any of the tests. I was surprised that this combo got the results it got.
I don't have 130, so I did 135 and t125 tests.
Standard procedures
Bottoms switched halfway
Alternating shots
Draws redone
All of the wins Against burn were due to burns recoil
Flame Cancer T125 WD
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Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Burn Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (1 os, 3 KO)
Burn Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Burn Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 5/10 (4 os, 1 KO)
Burn Bull: 5/10 (1 os, 4 KO)
Flame win %: 50
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Earth Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (4 os)
Earth Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40
Flame Cancer T125 WD vs Earth Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 4/10 (4 os)
Earth Bull: 6/10 (6 os)
Flame win %: 40
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Flame Cancer 135 WD vs Burn Bull 145 WD
Flame Cancer: 0/10
Burn Bull: 10/10 (10 os)
1 draw
Flame win %: 0
Flame Cancer 135 WD vs Burn Bull 85 WD
Flame Cancer: 3/10 (1 os, 2 KO)
Burn Bull: 7/10 (5 os, 2 KO)
Flame win %: 30
I didn't do 135 tests against earth, because at this point I had done 60 stamina battles
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Flame Cancer 130WD VS Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
Standard Procedures
Flame Cancer Win Rate - 30% (2KO, 1OS)
This is pretty good when you compare it with Burn and Earth.
Standard Procedures
Flame Cancer Win Rate - 30% (2KO, 1OS)
This is pretty good when you compare it with Burn and Earth.