(May. 17, 2011 11:54 PM)stevebak Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:44 PM)Evan Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:32 PM)stevebak Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:25 PM)Mr. N Wrote: [ -> ]If you use Basalt, then it's a known combo. Lightning Tank and Maximum Meteor beat it pretty easily.
yes indeed, i knew that 
but I just wanted to see how Rock Leone would stack up against the top tiers.
Currently I don't own a RS or RSF so its hard for me to tell if its good or not against the best. Rock got a little similarity with LT and GP they all have a turtle shell like armor.
Rock has no similarity to Lightning Tank or any Gravity Perseus combo. Rock is a lightweight, heavy recoil, severely outclassed wheel. Before the advent of the Maximum series I was looking into Rock as a good Anti-Meta agressive defense wheel, to counter MF Lightning L-Drago CH120RF, MF Earth Bull GB145RS/RSF/CS, and any stamina combo. It worked for a time (tho only partially against the Earth combo). MF-H Rock Cancer/Capricorne 85R2F. But since BD145, Basalt, and 230 came out it's useless.
you said it yourself, since BD145 came out. But did you at least test it with a BD145?
Woops, missed your point. My apologies! I thought you meant versus. I would test, but the only current combo I can test against is Flame Bull 230CS which won't show much as the combo I have in mind for rock would be Rock Cancer/Capricorne BD145RF. I would think that Leone BD145RF would work better tho.
(May. 18, 2011 12:11 AM)Evan Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:54 PM)stevebak Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:44 PM)Evan Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:32 PM)stevebak Wrote: [ -> ] (May. 17, 2011 11:25 PM)Mr. N Wrote: [ -> ]If you use Basalt, then it's a known combo. Lightning Tank and Maximum Meteor beat it pretty easily.
yes indeed, i knew that but I just wanted to see how Rock Leone would stack up against the top tiers.
Currently I don't own a RS or RSF so its hard for me to tell if its good or not against the best. Rock got a little similarity with LT and GP they all have a turtle shell like armor.
Rock has no similarity to Lightning Tank or any Gravity Perseus combo. Rock is a lightweight, heavy recoil, severely outclassed wheel. Before the advent of the Maximum series I was looking into Rock as a good Anti-Meta agressive defense wheel, to counter MF Lightning L-Drago CH120RF, MF Earth Bull GB145RS/RSF/CS, and any stamina combo. It worked for a time (tho only partially against the Earth combo). MF-H Rock Cancer/Capricorne 85R2F. But since BD145, Basalt, and 230 came out it's useless.
you said it yourself, since BD145 came out. But did you at least test it with a BD145?
Woops, missed your point. My apologies! I thought you meant versus. I would test, but the only current combo I can test against is Flame Bull 230CS which won't show much as the combo I have in mind for rock would be Rock Cancer/Capricorne BD145RF. I would think that Leone BD145RF would work better tho.
Apology accepted, we are all just humans and mistakes are part of it lolz.
ok no problem, i am looking forward to the test results.
ok, i have possibly the Anti-Tank Shell to LT, MF-H Rock Kerbecs GB145 XF/MF, can someone please test this for me, I can't because have exams, lol also the reason for using this combo are:
MF-H: Weight, Less chance of K.O. by LT
Rock: Stamina and Attack in one, considered useless, it is useful nonetheless
Kerbecs: Weight distribution and its weight
GB145: stamina from centrifugal force and weight
XF: Speed and Stamina
MF: Speed and Stamina
Thanks in advance
and soon ill make a thread
LT will KO it, I guarantee it. I'm not going to test it because my lightning tank isn't very good/I'm not good with it/can't get it to work. There's no way XF or MF would be able survive a hit from LT, with a High Recoil, low weight wheel like rock.
Correction, the Time Rook uses WF and MF and it counters LT
How do you figure that, if XF/MF have horrible results against any RF base custom?
i was just bored and studying then i thought, rock, rock, stamina for OS and attack for KO, lacks weight, GB145 and MF-H should do it, Speed and Stamina, Metal Flat and XF! also the time rook is from this thread
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-The-Time...LT-counter
Except, that combo is saved by it's defensive capabilities, Rock is a HORRIBLE choice, given High recoil. If basalt is only getting 62.5%, rock will struggle to get 1. Also, 230 helps that combo, you are using GB145, which is a pretty horrid idea, as it means Lightning will hit rock dead-on.
Also, WF and XF are very different pieces.
The combo is designed to be able to whist stand hits(MF-H and GB145), Dilever some good ones(Rock and XF/MF) and OS LT(Rock, XF/MF, and GB145). done and done
Except you're completely and utterly wrong. Putting Earth+GB145 on MF doesn't work well for defence. Rock is an even worse idea. That said, I do guess you've done everything right to request testing. I'll see if I can get my LT to work, and GB145 to last 20 rounds (It's fine with wheels like rock, but it's wonky on beat and libra).
Keep in mind I can't get my LT to work well against basalt BD145, so others may get even better results than me.
Two rounds in, and Rock Kerbecs almost won against... My bedroom window.
EDIT: Sorry, My GB145 has just completely died, it won't stay screwed together.
The 6 rounds I managed were 6-1 in favour of LT. Rock got 1 KO, as it collided with LT straight after an admittedly bad launch on my part. Lighting KO'd Rock 6 times and outspun it once.
It's too light. It can take a couple of hits, and sometimes it looked slightly promising, but that's because my LT sucks. It's too slow. Anyone who is good with it will 3-0 you at a tourney easy.
(May. 20, 2011 2:27 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]Except you're completely and utterly wrong. Putting Earth+GB145 on MF doesn't work well for defence. Rock is an even worse idea. That said, I do guess you've done everything right to request testing. I'll see if I can get my LT to work, and GB145 to last 20 rounds (It's fine with wheels like rock, but it's wonky on beat and libra).
Keep in mind I can't get my LT to work well against basalt BD145, so others may get even better results than me.
Two rounds in, and Rock Kerbecs almost won against... My bedroom window.
EDIT: Sorry, My GB145 has just completely died, it won't stay screwed together.
The 6 rounds I managed were 6-1 in favour of LT. Rock got 1 KO, as it collided with LT straight after an admittedly bad launch on my part. Lighting KO'd Rock 6 times and outspun it once.
It's too light. It can take a couple of hits, and sometimes it looked slightly promising, but that's because my LT sucks. It's too slow. Anyone who is good with it will 3-0 you at a tourney easy.
hmmm, but Who puts GB on a high recoil bey? The Original combo was MF Rock leone BD145RS/CS/R2F something high to prevent scrapping. Can you recondukt those tests once again please? you may also want to change frome rock to kerbecks to compare
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by your post, SteveBak.
GB145 can be used on high recoil attack types to add extra weight, Beat Lynx, for example, without obscuring the contact points like BD145. R145 is heavier but has it's own recoil issues (and doesn't balance well with Beat). However, this is supposed to be able to defend against one of the strongest attack types in the game, MF Lightning L Drago BD145LRF. His combo doesn't have a defensivee tip, The best he suggested for use was Metal Flat, which has some ability to stay in the ring, but that's only enough to prevent it KO'ing itself when used with relatively high recoil wheels.
There's no reason Rock would work better than Gravity in that combo you mentioned. However, he was referring to "Time Rook" which is MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230MF. I was pointing out his combo lacked the properties that made that combo effective.
As I said, my GB145 is now broken, so I cannot test with it any more, I've just ordered another but it'll take about a week to get here.
Anyway, I tested the bey that was suggested, against the bey he wanted it tested against. Before my GB145 broke, it was doing abysmally. It was sent flying multiple times, and only won one round through a lucky hit when I messed up my launch with Lightning Tank. Someone else can test if they want, but I doubt it'd be worthwhile.
Also, Rock and Kerbecs are two different types of parts, MW and CW respectively.
(May. 20, 2011 6:05 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not entirely sure what you mean by your post, SteveBak.
GB145 can be used on high recoil attack types to add extra weight, Beat Lynx, for example, without obscuring the contact points like BD145. R145 is heavier but has it's own recoil issues (and doesn't balance well with Beat). However, this is supposed to be able to defend against one of the strongest attack types in the game, MF Lightning L Drago BD145LRF. His combo doesn't have a defensivee tip, The best he suggested for use was Metal Flat, which has some ability to stay in the ring, but that's only enough to prevent it KO'ing itself when used with relatively high recoil wheels.
There's no reason Rock would work better than Gravity in that combo you mentioned. However, he was referring to "Time Rook" which is MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230MF. I was pointing out his combo lacked the properties that made that combo effective.
As I said, my GB145 is now broken, so I cannot test with it any more, I've just ordered another but it'll take about a week to get here.
Anyway, I tested the bey that was suggested, against the bey he wanted it tested against. Before my GB145 broke, it was doing abysmally. It was sent flying multiple times, and only won one round through a lucky hit when I messed up my launch with Lightning Tank. Someone else can test if they want, but I doubt it'd be worthwhile.
Also, Rock and Kerbecs are two different types of parts, MW and CW respectively.
ah my bad, I guess i was not paying attention, but for defnse to prevent it from getting ko'd isn't RSF a good alternative?
Rock is too recoil-y to be useful at all for defence, so it wouldn't work. Plus, I think LT could just equalise/destabilise and outspin that, if for some reason Rock managed to avoid KO.
(May. 20, 2011 6:21 PM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]Rock is too recoil-y to be useful at all for defence, so it wouldn't work. Plus, I think LT could just equalise/destabilise and outspin that, if for some reason Rock managed to avoid KO.
hmm... yes i got that, that right rock has to much recoil even with a wide track like BD. I think the case is closed and rock has no use for this type of costum-combo. Further tests are just a waist of time,right?
Will somebody test MF-H Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Left Spin) 230CS against LT?
I've been playing around with this combo for some days now and I have recently tested it against LT. It has done good but I would like other people to test this as I don't have LRF, Attack Stadium..(I use the Balance Stadium.)..and I can't seem to make LT work.
can someone test Burn Horogium GB145WD/PD/SD vs attack types
and also on lower tracks like 105,100,90,85
that really doesn't have the ability to stay in... and the latter combinations are just ltsc's.
(May. 21, 2011 10:09 AM)BeybladerPotter Wrote: [ -> ]Will somebody test MF-H Gravity Perseus (Counter Mode, Left Spin) 230CS against LT?
I've been playing around with this combo for some days now and I have recently tested it against LT. It has done good but I would like other people to test this as I don't have LRF, Attack Stadium..(I use the Balance Stadium.)..and I can't seem to make LT work.
I tested this out in an attack stadium.
I spun Perseus in right spin first and launched it first.
Lighting ldrago BD145RF (i didn't have LRF but it wouldn't have made a difference by the results)
Ldrago got a 100% win rate
Then i spun perseus in left spin and launched first
Ldrago got a 90% win rate (mostly because Perseus got lucky with the walls)
it was honestly funny how perseus go koed with the slightest contact... it was kinda sad at the same time....
How many rounds? It helps now that we ask for 20 rounds if you state it
I posted results in the Gravity Saucer thread yesterday, and why would you even think of having Gravity 230CS in right spin against the Lightning Tank? lmao. Waste of time, honestly.
(May. 23, 2011 12:04 AM)Dan Wrote: [ -> ]I posted results in the Gravity Saucer thread yesterday, and why would you even think of having Gravity 230CS in right spin against the Lightning Tank? lmao. Waste of time, honestly.
lol. tell me about it. i did right spin in case they would complain "you didn't do it in right spin! it would have made a difference!" or something like that. -.- people here complain about the smallest details that wouldn't have made much of a big difference.
(not directed to Dan )and i did 10 rounds.... don't tell me to do 20 rounds because if u saw what i just said 100% or 90% win rate. and last time i checked, that win rate is definitely not good... so clearly its a bad combo
All previous tests/requests deleted, starting fresh...