(Feb. 18, 2011 7:03 PM)Longsword Wrote: [ -> ]I want to test Byxis attack and defense capabilities.Please try these battles.10 rounds for each.Please ad Metal Faces for all beys(if possible)
Vulcan Byxis 85R2F (90 or 100 is ok if 85 not on hand) VS. Earth bull GB145 RS
Ray Byxis 85 RF VS. Earth Aquario 230 CS
Earth Byxis GB145RS VS. Vulcan Horuseus 85 R2F
CW's are negligible on attack types...
Nojo, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they don't make a difference, exposing metal in the right places (generally as much as possible) can really help wheels (Screw Pisces is a good example, comparing my testing to others with different CW's). It's pretty obviious visually, if you're going to have plastic protruding over vulcans sloped parts, or sitting ahead of it's, uhh, smashy parts (Aquila is an example of that), that it's going to lose recoil/smash.
However, Longsword: It's obvious from it's shape and weight that it's not going to work for defense. And just look at it, generally, good attack wheels have bumps, expose the metal on certain wheels, or provide some kind of upper, in destabilisers. Byxis does none of these.
I guarantee Ray Byxis 85 RF will not win a battle against Earth Aquario 230CS, Ray isn't really top tier, and low attack types (except for maybe MLD) don't really work against 230. Also, Ray doesn't need a metal face, it doesn't have enough recoil to warrant it, it makes it WORSE, by slowing it down.
As for Vulcan, exposing the right amount of metal is key, and Horuseus is fine. Honestly, Pyxis doesn't work. I've considered it before, but yeah, Horuseus is better.
The only other attack wheel that's worth using (judging solely from my testing) is screw, and nope, pyxis doesn't work there, Pisces is the best I've found so far
Can you test this combo: Earth Gasher CH120[120 height]WD? It dominated my hasbro stadium tournaments and I wonder if it would do well in TT Attack.
I do believe we've already tested something like that, try searching (plus, there's 1 set of results in the OP for it). It's basically a top tier stamina combo on CH120. Though Bull would be a better CW choice, and a TT mold 1 or 2 Earth would also improve it.
But it won't work against any top tier attack blade in TT Attack, as with most stamina combos, it'd get 0/10.
(Aug. 31, 2010 5:10 AM)Nojo294 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys i searched for a topic and nothing came up so I made my own. Just state the combo/parts that you want tested and I will try my best to do them. (all tests will be in the sonokong attack stadium).
First come first serve!
Others can help with the testing too!
ONLY POST COMBOS THAT YOU THINK WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! PLEASE DO NOT POST RANDOM COMBOS THAT CONTAIN USELESS PARTS (eg. Dark)
AS A NEW RULE, PLEASE TEST OUT A COMBO THAT HAS NO RESULTS BEFORE POSTING YOUR REQUEST. THIS WAY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO AVOID "SPAM" COMBO'S AND ENSURE THAT ALL BLADES WITH A REASONABLE EXPLANATION BEHIND IT GETS TESTED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
If you would like to request a video request, please refer to SSJfisherman's Thread here.
All combo's with a less than 50% win rate will be removed.
Test Requests:
1. McFrown: MF-H Earth (Mold 1) Bull 145MB
2. stamina dude: Burn Bull GB145SD vs Burn Bull DF145SD
3. Shadowpegasis: MF-2 vs MF LL Drago CH120RF
Conditions used:
2 Humans. Both using grips.
TT Attack Stadium
"Claw Mode" throughout + at 120 height
MF-2 vs MF LL Drago CH120RF
MF2: 12 out of 20wins (5KO/7OS)
MF: 8 out of 20 wins (4KO/4OS)
Interesting. MF2 won most of the time cos it had higher RPM. Though if you do any launch below optimum (anything below 95% strength) it'll be sluggish in movement.
4. Shadowpegasis: MF-F on Burn Bull DF145SD vs Regular face
5. stamina dude: Solo Spin Time on Earth (Mold 1) Bull GB145WD
6. Diamond: Burn _______ 90/100RF
Tested by: TheDude
7. momiji manjuu: Stamina Types with CH120/105/100/90/145
145 track used as control
WD's Mint
MFB attack stadium
Beylauncher L/R
Alternate Launches
WD's switched after round 5 for control
Earth Aquario CH120WD vs Earth Aquario 145WD
Earth Aquario CH120WD- 5/10 (50%)
Earth Aquario 145WD- 5/10 (50%)
Earth Aquario 105WD- 7/10 (70%)
Earth Aquario 145WD- 3/10 (30%)
Earth Aquario 100WD- 6/10 (60%)
Earth Aquario 145WD- 4/10 (40%)
In one of the rounds it almost seems that the earth wheel on the 145 track had "force smash" as it pounded the lower blade down towards the stadium floor.
That's All the tracks I have right now I do not have 90 so it would be much appreciated if someone tested the 90 track... thnx!
8. Nojo294: Defense types with CS
Tested By: BeybladerPatrik
9. Cuckoo: MF LLDrago H145RF vs Top Tier Defense
Metal Face Lightning L Drago H145R2F vs Metal Face Earth Bull GB145CS
MFB Attack
Defense launched first
R2F prime condition
Beylaucher L/R for LL Drago
Light Launcher w/ TT Ripcord for Defense
LL Drago- 4/10 (40%)
(All K.O.)
Earth Bull- 6/10 (60%)
(2 K.O. 4 O.S.)
LL Drago had some good attacks but its recoil caused it way too many Self K.O.'s And I must say CS held on to that tornado ridge like its life depended on it... (which it did)
10. Kyuubi-Master: Earth Bull 230/145/100/90/85PD as a Stamina type
11. '究極ã®ãƒ–レーダー': Flame Bull 90 F/WF/XF
12. MeteorKing: GB145 vs R145 on Libra as a defense type
13. Ultrablader: Hell Bull BD145 CS/RS/RSF vs Top Tier Attack Type.
14. Evan: Libra GB145/R145/C145 RS/RSF/CS vs Top Tier Attack Type
15. SSJfisherman:
MF L drago ch120(120 height) wf vs earth/burn bull 85/90/100 sd/wd
MF L drago ch120(120 height) wf vs earth/burn bull 145 sd/wd
MF L drago ch120(145 height) wf vs earth/burn bull 230 sd/wd
16. Dan: Meteo L Drago GB145 CS/RS/RSF vs Top Tier Attack
17. MrSMW13 Gravity Pisces 230cs
MF Earth Larceta 230cs vs top tier attack type plz show me results
^That was completely unnecessary, and a bit rude too. There are plenty others waiting before you, you don't immediately get priority because you want to see results (like everyone here does too).
i do not have a flame libra so i can not this combo but here it is
earth ____ ed125 es
lauchit at a sertian angle so it could go on its side and spin like a wheel for a while so the ed125 could be used as hammers and then it uses its es to get back its stamina after it gets up in a way i try it as earth aries ed125 wd and it stanima is not that good because off the spin i want to know if the es would change anything
(Feb. 20, 2011 4:20 PM)GaHooleone Wrote: [ -> ]^That was completely unnecessary, and a bit rude too. There are plenty others waiting before you, you don't immediately get priority because you want to see results (like everyone here does too).
Also that combo makes no sense. Gravity only works with Persues, not Pisces.
You guys can take Libra vs Attack types down, the testing has been done
Eh, kai-v wants more before a decision is made. And I'm too busy and burnt out to keep up that testing rate.
Edit: sorry, thought you meant my request, I've been up about 36 hours straight... That said, If anyone wants to do more libra testing they totes should.
Also, I'm requesting hell kerbecs bd145ewd and wd (in boost mode for both) against top tier attack (especially lightning). It's an amazing combo that just needs a bit more testing. My main interest is ewd, as I'm getting rather decent results vs attack, but I'll need more evidence to convince myself, let alone others.
EWD just seems to work better here than in my other trials with it. I would appreciate WD tests for comparison, but I'd rather just ewd results to no results at all
MF Grand Bull W105 RF
done in a takara tomy balance stadium, highest stamina first or in turn if the same stamina.
Next i thought i would use it against the infamous MF vulcan horuseus 90 RF (85 getting on 26th and rf due to stadium) these results were very interesting though i did this for 20 battles as it was very fun to watch
GB and VH at 95%
MF Grand Bull W105 RF vs MF Vulcan Horuseus 90 RF
GB - KO
VH - KO
GB - KO
VH - KO
GB - KO
VH - OS
GB - KO
VH - KO
VH - KO (started worrying )
GB - OS
VH - KO
GB - KO
GB - KO
VH - KO
GB - KO
GB - OS
GB - KO
VH - KO
GB - OS
GB - KO
I was quite impressed with the result of 60% win rate they were pretty evenly matched and some of the KOs where quite dramatic (the reason i got carried away), but after seeing them results i wanted to test it against lightning l drago.
GB and LLD 95% 10 rounds (boring )
MF Grand Bull W105 RF vs MF Lightning L Drago 90 RF
LLD - KO
LLD - KO
LLD - KO
GB - OS
LLD - KO
LLD - KO
GB - OS
GB - KO
LLD - KO
LLD - KO
this was very boring as all the KOs except one of LLD was just jentle taps the didnt get anough power or friction to get a good enough smash, and had little power at all it seemed as if they where to smooth for each other, GB only got a 30% win rate while LLD got 70%.
I would like to see some results against top tier defence combos, but i was surprised with the smash it produced, I am looking foward in seeing you results
Testing attack vs attack is useless and prove nithing(Not talking about tournament situation)
And seeing as the whole point of testing is to determine performance in a tournament situation, you are, as usual, impressively incorrect. Not only that, but that grand+rf combo isn't purely attack, it has defensive properties as well. Please try to find the reasons behind things before you decide to express your opinion. Just try to focus on why people are doing things, okay?
Callum, vulcans big weakness is that seeing as it's locked in right spin, it's not as good against rubber tips (compared to lldrago/gravity perseus/mld). It's a shame, but yeah, it's not what it used to be. Still an awesome looking wheel though. I'm guessing the same happens against rf. As much as I love vulcan, there's a reason MF Lightning L-Drago 85/90/100/CH120 RF/LRF is the most common attack type (mainly MF LLDrago CH120RF, thanks to 230, I think) in tourneys (well, not sure about Italy, but yeah).
I pretty sure that this(Referring to the thread) is not for tournament purpose.
EDIT:Just noticed that you said i'm always incorrect here but i'm very correct in beyblade random thoughts thread<-----Off topic
Which is why we have the rule "only post combos you think will be successful" and the "combos eith a wr lower than 60% will be removed", right? It is, as with all testing, for tourneys. Either way, it is useful (albeit it demonstrates the defensive properties, as let's be honest, this thing won't actually hurt a real defense type, it's more of an rf-based defense combo, it seems). This thread, as I understand, is for getting more results for apparently good combo's, to verify your own results, with the end aim to submit it to the potential competitive combos thread.
Course, if an experienced user disagrees, correct me.
hi can you test MF Rock Libra GB145 HF/S also use it angled thank you
HF/S what mod?
And this is for stamina defense or attack.
If it is for stmina it pretty much sucks.
If it is for attack it is meh but it would be better with 100 and rf
if it is for defense it will pretty much suck.
If it's for attack, if we're still keeping with the same idea as hf/s, using CS would give closer results.
But honestly, it's a pretty average combo, way too much recoil, not enough grip, and not enough speed (in HF mode), and no stability in S mode.
Yeh in HF mode from my results it actually somewhat lifted the opposing bey up or out
(Feb. 22, 2011 6:50 PM)the blader man Wrote: [ -> ]i do not have a flame libra so i can not this combo but here it is
earth ____ ed125 es
lauchit at a sertian angle so it could go on its side and spin like a wheel for a while so the ed125 could be used as hammers and then it uses its es to get back its stamina after it gets up in a way i try it as earth aries ed125 wd and it stanima is not that good because off the spin i want to know if the es would change anything
come on test it please it is not wet been tested (at least not posted the resolts wet)
We would test it, if ED125 did actually exist....
I'm assuming he means ed145, and, if so, it's a terrible combo. ES is bad. ED145 isn't very good. I've used the combo before, but it's terrible. Absolutely terrible. Seeing as Hell Kerbecs BD145WD is about to take over stamina, it won't even be remotely useful there, due to es's low stability and grip (and wasn't before, due to the lack of stability).
You could've at least said EWD, but it's still pretty average, especially compared to kerbex.
Hey guys can you try this combo with Earth Bull 145WD
MF L-Drago 105RF
could you do mf flame Pegasus d125 wd vs other combos idk witch ones
Earth Bull 145 WD is already top iter
MF L Drago would probably win as Attack defeats stamina.
Aquilaz, he meant that you should test MF L Drago 105RF against Earth Bull 145WD.