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Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - May. 05, 2021
I'm surprised a thread didn't exist for this. I'm deciding to test this cause Buster Xcalibur and Hazard Kerbeus are allowed.
Winning Valkyrie.00Axe.Quick' vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(wV launched second)
wV.00A.Qc': 4 wins (2 OS, 2 KO)
aC.00P.At: 6 wins (6 OS)
Ties: 0
Yeah my upper back hurts from doing testing today. I feel like I'm out of shape for beyblade, which that's pretty wacko. These results make seem wV in line with other attack layers in Limited (my previous testing with attack layers against aC). Although I seem to have trouble using wV myself due to the layer's instability. Hopefully this thread will inspire some more testing with wV.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 05, 2021
While Winning Valkyrie is a strong bey, I see no reason for it not to be in limited.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - DeltaZakuro - May. 09, 2021
Can you try Winning Valkyrie 7Bump αssault' Vs Shadow Amaterios Ωuter Revolve?
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - TheRogueBlader - May. 09, 2021
Wait, why is there a thread for this when the only format winning is allowed in, standard, it’s severely outclassed?
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - #Fafnir - May. 10, 2021
(May. 09, 2021 11:57 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Wait, why is there a thread for this when the only format winning is allowed in, standard, it’s severely outclassed?
The same reason testing threads for other (currently) banned parts exist: To determine if said parts (In this case, Winning Valkyrie) should stay banned.
Edit: I apologize for the complicated wording my post originally had.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - TheRogueBlader - May. 10, 2021
(May. 10, 2021 12:03 AM)#Fafnir Wrote:(May. 09, 2021 11:57 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Wait, why is there a thread for this when the only format winning is allowed in, standard, it’s severely outclassed?
The same reason testing threads for other (currently) banned parts exist: To determine if said parts (In this case, Winning Valkyrie) are actually good enough to be banned.
So basically these threads are testing if they are good enough to be banned, or bad enough to be unbanned?
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - May. 13, 2021
(May. 09, 2021 11:54 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: Can you try Winning Valkyrie 7Bump αssault' Vs Shadow Amaterios Ωuter Revolve?
Sure.
Winning Valkyrie.00Bump.assault' vs Shining Amaterios.Outer.Revolve
(wV launched second)
wV.00B.α': 5 wins (2 OS, 3 KO)
sA.outer.R: 5 wins (5 OS)
Ties: 0
I think either of these combos are really optimized. I think sA could use Atomic or Bearing due its high burst resistance, thus having better stamina. I think wV being unstable means its not very effective on Assault, so perhaps Xtreme or other offensive drivers could be better.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021
Try Winning Valkyrie with Zenith and Xceed' no chip (If you can)
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 3:49 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Try Winning Valkyrie with Zenith and Xceed' no chip (If you can)I can do that, what chip are you talking about? Xceed chip, or level chip?
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 4:12 PM)g2_ Wrote:(May. 13, 2021 3:49 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Try Winning Valkyrie with Zenith and Xceed' no chip (If you can)I can do that, what chip are you talking about? Xceed chip, or level chip?
No Xceed chip plz Thx so much
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 4:51 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:I'll add a level chip though. What combo do you want it to face off?(May. 13, 2021 4:12 PM)g2_ Wrote: I can do that, what chip are you talking about? Xceed chip, or level chip?
No Xceed chip plz Thx so much
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 4:59 PM)g2_ Wrote:(May. 13, 2021 4:51 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: No Xceed chip plz Thx so muchI'll add a level chip though. What combo do you want it to face off?
it would be cool to face off against Perfect Phinox atomic double 0
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 5:00 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:But that's iliegel in Limited.(May. 13, 2021 4:59 PM)g2_ Wrote: I'll add a level chip though. What combo do you want it to face off?
it would be cool to face off against Perfect Phinox atomic double 0
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 6:25 PM)g2_ Wrote:(May. 13, 2021 5:00 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: it would be cool to face off against Perfect Phinox atomic double 0But that's iliegel in Limited.
Sorry I didn't know. Just use whatever combo's you want
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 6:26 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:Is Drain Fafnir 0Cross Atomic good?(May. 13, 2021 6:25 PM)g2_ Wrote: But that's iliegel in Limited.
Sorry I didn't know. Just use whatever combo's you want
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 13, 2021
(May. 13, 2021 8:09 PM)g2_ Wrote:(May. 13, 2021 6:26 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Sorry I didn't know. Just use whatever combo's you wantIs Drain Fafnir 0Cross Atomic good?
Yep
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - [[ NØBØDY ]] - May. 27, 2021
Well looking at this, I feel that Winning Valkyrie has a decent chance of being approved, could I request
wV.00B.Xc' (TILT) VS aB.00.Kp'
Keep' and bahamut is one of the most optimal defence combinations so I'd like to see the result.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 27, 2021
I don't have the bey but can someone try Winning Valkryie 0 Destroy'
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - May. 27, 2021
(May. 27, 2021 3:39 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: I don't have the bey but can someone try Winning Valkryie 0 Destroy'
Against?
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - UnseenBurst - May. 27, 2021
(May. 27, 2021 6:35 PM)g2_ Wrote:(May. 27, 2021 3:39 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: I don't have the bey but can someone try Winning Valkryie 0 Destroy'
Against?
Whatever bey you have
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - DedZeY - Feb. 11, 2023
Note: winning valkryie is banned in limited right now but im doing this testing to see whether it should stay banned or be unbanned
I did lots of testings with winning cuz i do think it could be top tier but also not banned
First of
With xtreme’
The combo i will be using is winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’
Vs right spin stamina:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs flame sagitario 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 14 ko 3 bf
Flame: 5 os
Winning valkryie win %: 80%
Was easily able to ko flame most of the time
Next vs deep chaos
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs deep chaos 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 4 ko 3 bf
Deep chaos: 13 os
Winning valkryie win %: 65%
I was very surprised here with how deep chaos defended
I seriously dont know how it does so well but it does
Vs left spin stamina:
Vs drain fafnir:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs drain fafnir 0bump atomic
Winning: 14 ko’s
Drain:6 os
Winning valkryie win%: 70
Similar to with flame , was able to ko it very easily
Vs arc bahamut
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs arc bahamut 0bump wave’
Winning: 11 ko 1 burst
Arc: 7 ko 1 burst
Winning win%: 60 %
Was tougher than drain but was still able to get ko’s
Vs defense types:
Arc bahamut(again lol)
Winning valkryie 00turn. xtreme’ ve arc bahamut 0bump keep’
Winning valkryie : 3 ko’s 2 burst
Arc: 13os 1 burst 1 ko
Arc was able to defend pretty well with keep’
I dont have alter chronos or geist fafnir to test defense with those but i would appreciate if someone did test with them
Overall with xtreme’ it is very very good (but it really surprised me with how it lost to deep chaos)
Will be doing tests with destroy and some other drivers soon
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - Feb. 11, 2023
(Feb. 11, 2023 11:26 AM)DedZeY Wrote: Note: winning valkryie is banned in limited right now but im doing this testing to see whether it should stay banned or be unbannedWinning Valkyrie should be unbanned in my opinion. It's not invincible.
I did lots of testings with winning cuz i do think it could be top tier but also not banned
First of
With xtreme’
The combo i will be using is winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’
Vs right spin stamina:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs flame sagitario 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 14 ko 3 bf
Flame: 5 os
Winning valkryie win %: 80%
Was easily able to ko flame most of the time
Next vs deep chaos
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs deep chaos 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 4 ko 3 bf
Deep chaos: 13 os
Winning valkryie win %: 65%
I was very surprised here with how deep chaos defended
I seriously dont know how it does so well but it does
Vs left spin stamina:
Vs drain fafnir:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs drain fafnir 0bump atomic
Winning: 14 ko’s
Drain:6 os
Winning valkryie win%: 70
Similar to with flame , was able to ko it very easily
Vs arc bahamut
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs arc bahamut 0bump wave’
Winning: 11 ko 1 burst
Arc: 7 ko 1 burst
Winning win%: 60 %
Was tougher than drain but was still able to get ko’s
Vs defense types:
Arc bahamut(again lol)
Winning valkryie 00turn. xtreme’ ve arc bahamut 0bump keep’
Winning valkryie : 3 ko’s 2 burst
Arc: 13os 1 burst 1 ko
Arc was able to defend pretty well with keep’
I dont have alter chronos or geist fafnir to test defense with those but i would appreciate if someone did test with them
Overall with xtreme’ it is very very good (but it really surprised me with how it lost to deep chaos)
Will be doing tests with destroy and some other drivers soon
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - Cindercast - Feb. 12, 2023
(Feb. 11, 2023 1:11 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Feb. 11, 2023 11:26 AM)DedZeY Wrote: Note: winning valkryie is banned in limited right now but im doing this testing to see whether it should stay banned or be unbannedWinning Valkyrie should be unbanned in my opinion. It's not invincible.
I did lots of testings with winning cuz i do think it could be top tier but also not banned
First of
With xtreme’
The combo i will be using is winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’
Vs right spin stamina:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs flame sagitario 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 14 ko 3 bf
Flame: 5 os
Winning valkryie win %: 80%
Was easily able to ko flame most of the time
Next vs deep chaos
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs deep chaos 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 4 ko 3 bf
Deep chaos: 13 os
Winning valkryie win %: 65%
I was very surprised here with how deep chaos defended
I seriously dont know how it does so well but it does
Vs left spin stamina:
Vs drain fafnir:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs drain fafnir 0bump atomic
Winning: 14 ko’s
Drain:6 os
Winning valkryie win%: 70
Similar to with flame , was able to ko it very easily
Vs arc bahamut
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs arc bahamut 0bump wave’
Winning: 11 ko 1 burst
Arc: 7 ko 1 burst
Winning win%: 60 %
Was tougher than drain but was still able to get ko’s
Vs defense types:
Arc bahamut(again lol)
Winning valkryie 00turn. xtreme’ ve arc bahamut 0bump keep’
Winning valkryie : 3 ko’s 2 burst
Arc: 13os 1 burst 1 ko
Arc was able to defend pretty well with keep’
I dont have alter chronos or geist fafnir to test defense with those but i would appreciate if someone did test with them
Overall with xtreme’ it is very very good (but it really surprised me with how it lost to deep chaos)
Will be doing tests with destroy and some other drivers soon
Winning Valkyrie (for BSL) is an extreme threat when it's paired with discs that will boost it's power significantly. Zenith is the disc in question of course, however wV still remains very powerful. Invincible? Definitely not. Maybe too powerful for its own good in the format? Yes. For sure.
I'll provide some testings in the next coming week if I don't forget.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - originalzankye - Feb. 12, 2023
(Feb. 11, 2023 1:11 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Feb. 11, 2023 11:26 AM)DedZeY Wrote: Note: winning valkryie is banned in limited right now but im doing this testing to see whether it should stay banned or be unbannedWinning Valkyrie should be unbanned in my opinion. It's not invincible.
I did lots of testings with winning cuz i do think it could be top tier but also not banned
First of
With xtreme’
The combo i will be using is winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’
Vs right spin stamina:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs flame sagitario 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 14 ko 3 bf
Flame: 5 os
Winning valkryie win %: 80%
Was easily able to ko flame most of the time
Next vs deep chaos
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs deep chaos 0bump atomic
Winning valkryie: 4 ko 3 bf
Deep chaos: 13 os
Winning valkryie win %: 65%
I was very surprised here with how deep chaos defended
I seriously dont know how it does so well but it does
Vs left spin stamina:
Vs drain fafnir:
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs drain fafnir 0bump atomic
Winning: 14 ko’s
Drain:6 os
Winning valkryie win%: 70
Similar to with flame , was able to ko it very easily
Vs arc bahamut
Winning valkryie 00turn xtreme’ vs arc bahamut 0bump wave’
Winning: 11 ko 1 burst
Arc: 7 ko 1 burst
Winning win%: 60 %
Was tougher than drain but was still able to get ko’s
Vs defense types:
Arc bahamut(again lol)
Winning valkryie 00turn. xtreme’ ve arc bahamut 0bump keep’
Winning valkryie : 3 ko’s 2 burst
Arc: 13os 1 burst 1 ko
Arc was able to defend pretty well with keep’
I dont have alter chronos or geist fafnir to test defense with those but i would appreciate if someone did test with them
Overall with xtreme’ it is very very good (but it really surprised me with how it lost to deep chaos)
Will be doing tests with destroy and some other drivers soon
Competitive testing and banning are not about "invincible" it never was like that, you have to actually do competitive testing or have tournament experience b4 making statements like this.
Ex: Driger V2, banned? yes, invincible? no it could lose to fS and other stuff.
Winning Valkyrie in BSL creeps way too hard for Limited with performances.
It creeps way too hard on every attacker and too much against stamina for what it can do that would not be balanced.
RE: Winning Valkyrie Testing and Discussion - g2_ - Feb. 12, 2023
(Feb. 12, 2023 5:53 AM)originalzankye Wrote:I see your point, I completely understand.(Feb. 11, 2023 1:11 PM)g2_ Wrote: Winning Valkyrie should be unbanned in my opinion. It's not invincible.
Competitive testing and banning are not about "invincible" it never was like that, you have to actually do competitive testing or have tournament experience b4 making statements like this.
Ex: Driger V2, banned? yes, invincible? no it could lose to fS and other stuff.
Winning Valkyrie in BSL creeps way too hard for Limited with performances.
It creeps way too hard on every attacker and too much against stamina for what it can do that would not be balanced.