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RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 13, 2020

(Oct. 13, 2020  1:45 AM)Golden Freddy Wrote:
(Oct. 13, 2020  1:12 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Lemme guess, World Spriggan was in left and won by spin finishes that came down to the wire due to LAD.

Yep

I'm a genius, jk up.
But seriously, could you specify the mode or modes you used and how they beys won? It would make it's effectiveness more clear and prevent people from asking the same question I did.
Oh yeah, and other things like which was launched first or if it were done simultaneously. Just would like to know.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - Golden Freddy - Oct. 13, 2020

(Oct. 13, 2020  1:57 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(Oct. 13, 2020  1:45 AM)Golden Freddy Wrote: Yep

I'm a genius, jk up.
But seriously, could you specify the mode or modes you used and how they beys won? It would make it's effectiveness more clear and prevent people from asking the same question I did.
Oh yeah, and other things like which was launched first or if it were done simultaneously. Just would like to know.

Ok


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - kai edits - Oct. 26, 2020

Universal maiden 1s volcanic vs regalia genesis hybrid.
Round 1 spin finish genesis
Round 2 maiden breaks oooooof
Genesis:100%
Maiden:0%


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:11 AM)kai edits Wrote: Universal maiden 1s volcanic vs regalia genesis hybrid.
Round 1 spin finish genesis
Round 2 maiden breaks oooooof
Genesis:100%
Maiden:0%

Just as a note, testing against 3D beys aren’t allowed in formal testing threads I believe.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - kai edits - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:15 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:11 AM)kai edits Wrote: Universal maiden 1s volcanic vs regalia genesis hybrid.
Round 1 spin finish genesis
Round 2 maiden breaks oooooof
Genesis:100%
Maiden:0%

Just as a note, testing against 3D beys aren’t allowed in formal testing threads I believe.
Oops. It's a fun for test.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 26, 2020

This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:19 AM)g2_ Wrote: This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.

It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - BladerGem - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:23 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:19 AM)g2_ Wrote: This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.

It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,

Quest is only good if you can get it to not destabilize itself and scrape itself to death.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - kai edits - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:19 AM)g2_ Wrote: This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.
If I did not broke my launcher I could of done more testing. I think genesis needs love in standard but it's not meta. I think rage fafnir 2a quick can beat it. So can [font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Vengful Maiden 1s sting bearing or xtend plus.[/font]


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:29 AM)BladerGem Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:23 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,

Quest is only good if you can get it to not destabilize itself and scrape itself to death.

Quest is ideal for hardcore defense just not so much for anything else.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:23 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:19 AM)g2_ Wrote: This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.

It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,
Quest is horrible, it's probably the worst driver in burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:35 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:19 AM)g2_ Wrote: This thread is garbage, just like Genesis. It should be locked, Genesis has no use in standard. Nuff said.
If I did not broke my launcher I could of done more testing. I think genesis needs love in standard but it's not meta. I think rage fafnir 2a quick can beat it. So can [font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Vengful Maiden 1s sting bearing or xtend plus.[/font]
If you are interested, I can do the testing.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:07 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:23 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,
Quest is horrible, it's probably the worst driver in burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:35 AM)kai edits Wrote: If I did not broke my launcher I could of done more testing. I think genesis needs love in standard but it's not meta. I think rage fafnir 2a quick can beat it. So can [font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Vengful Maiden 1s sting bearing or xtend plus.[/font]
If you are interested, I can do the testing.

Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:07 AM)g2_ Wrote: Quest is horrible, it's probably the worst driver in burst.

If you are interested, I can do the testing.

Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot

Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:07 AM)g2_ Wrote: Quest is horrible, it's probably the worst driver in burst.

If you are interested, I can do the testing.

Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot
Hasbro's stats are horrible and not reliable. Yes, the defense is great, but the stamina is so bad, Xtreme based combos can out spin it. Plus, it heavily increases the chance to burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:54 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot

Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.
Attack 5? Quest has 0 attack power.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:54 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot

Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.

I actually did, but it has some stamina so I guess 0 is a good grade.

(Oct. 26, 2020  2:05 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot
Hasbro's stats are horrible and not reliable. Yes, the defense is great, but the stamina is so bad, Xtreme based combos can out spin it. Plus, it heavily increases the chance to burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:54 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.
Attack 5? Quest has 0 attack power.

The defense on quest is godly. It’s stamina and atack not so much.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  2:31 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:54 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.

I actually did, but it has some stamina so I guess 0 is a good grade.

(Oct. 26, 2020  2:05 AM)g2_ Wrote: Hasbro's stats are horrible and not reliable. Yes, the defense is great, but the stamina is so bad, Xtreme based combos can out spin it. Plus, it heavily increases the chance to burst.

Attack 5? Quest has 0 attack power.

The defense on quest is godly. It’s stamina and atack not so much.
I definitely agree with this.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 26, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  2:05 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  1:32 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Yes, overall it’s a bad driver, but here is what would be it’s stats. 0-attack, 1-stamina, 20-defense (Hasbro scaling). The suction cup increases it’s defense by a lot
Hasbro's stats are horrible and not reliable. Yes, the defense is great, but the stamina is so bad, Xtreme based combos can out spin it. Plus, it heavily increases the chance to burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:54 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Wdym, Quest should be having negative stamina even on a Hasbruh scaling. Then attack would be .5. Defense seems to be accurate.
Attack 5? Quest has 0 attack power.

I said point 5, not 5. As in one half


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - kai edits - Oct. 27, 2020

(Oct. 26, 2020  1:07 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 26, 2020  12:23 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: It’s pretty good for solid defense on quest, but then again everything is,
Quest is horrible, it's probably the worst driver in burst.

(Oct. 26, 2020  12:35 AM)kai edits Wrote: If I did not broke my launcher I could of done more testing. I think genesis needs love in standard but it's not meta. I think rage fafnir 2a quick can beat it. So can [font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Vengful Maiden 1s sting bearing or xtend plus.[/font]
If you are interested, I can do the testing.
Can you do rage fafnir 2a quick vs regalia genesis sting atomic. If you can 3d  print can you do rage fafnir 2a quick vs vengeful maiden 1s sting xtend plus or keep'


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - The Blacknight - Oct. 27, 2020

lol the only place genesis might find use is burst classic XD


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 27, 2020

(Oct. 27, 2020  2:41 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: lol the only place genesis might find use is burst classic XD
Genesis would dominate in classic.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - The Blacknight - Oct. 27, 2020

(Oct. 27, 2020  4:46 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 27, 2020  2:41 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: lol the only place genesis might find use is burst classic XD
Genesis would dominate in classic.

fair, maybe limited


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - g2_ - Oct. 27, 2020

(Oct. 27, 2020  4:47 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:
(Oct. 27, 2020  4:46 PM)g2_ Wrote: Genesis would dominate in classic.

fair, maybe limited
Would still be too good I fear.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 28, 2020

(Oct. 27, 2020  4:59 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 27, 2020  4:47 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: fair, maybe limited
Would still be too good I fear.

It would break the limited meta.
...
Actually, maybe not, but maybe yes? It's too mediocre/bad to truly tell.


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - LeonidasKerbeus - Oct. 28, 2020

genesis is just a worse pA purely due to the extra contact point to burst it

genesis would get eviscerated by stock rage no doubt

the only hope for genesis might be around bearing


RE: Regalia genesis/perfect genesis testing and discussion - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 28, 2020

I have a ultimate defense combo using regalia genesis's