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Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - lilphilyb - Feb. 09, 2020
Since Burst Limited is soon coming to the WBO, I made a list of possible Banned Parts and Speculated Top Tier Combos.
Possible Banned Parts Joining the Ban list
1. Bearing
2. Balkesh B3
3. Xtend+
4. Hypersphere drivers
Possible Top Tier Parts
1. Sr3.0B.Ds
2. G3.0C.At
3. tV3/tA4.0B.X
4. dP4/pP4.0B.At
5. nL/L3.M.O
Predictions
Bearing and Xt+ will be allowed at first, but soon get banned for their LAD.
Balkesh gets banned right out of the gate.
Hypershere gets banned for the same reason as it did in classic.
Note: Those were predictions about burst classic, this is NOT OFFICAL
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - BuilderROB - Feb. 09, 2020
(Feb. 09, 2020 1:55 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Since Burst Limited is soon coming to the WBO, I made a list of possible Banned Parts and Speculated Top Tier Combos.
Possible Banned Parts Joining the Ban list
1. Bearing
2. Balkesh B3
3. Xtend+
4. Hypersphere drivers
Possible Top Tier Parts
1. Sr3.0B.Ds
2. G3.0C.At
3. tV3/tA4.0B.X
4. dP4/pP4.0B.At
5. nL/L3.M.O
Predictions
Bearing and Xt+ will be allowed at first, but soon get banned for their LAD.
Balkesh gets banned right out of the gate.
Hypershere gets banned for the same reason as it did in classic.
Note: Those were predictions about burst classic, this is NOT OFFICAL
Xtend+, if it does get banned, will be banned right out of the gate and not later because it isn’t a new part. Only Hasbro Bearing will likely be banned, because TT Bearing has a weak spring. For Hypersphere the only part that will likely be banned is Rise-H, although they may all be banned entirely possibly.
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - AirKingNeo - Feb. 12, 2020
I can't see Bearing (TT) being banned. Left spin layers don't have burst stoppers like Lord/CzS in Standard, so it's super burstable.
Other things I can see being banned:
- Hypersphere Layers (or whatever they're called)
- GT layers
- Turbo Valkyrie/Achilles/Spriggan
- Spriggan Requiem and SrS3.
- Maximum Garuda and G3.
- Almost every Cho-Z layer (w/ Level Chips banned)
- GT discs (Blitz, Sting, etc)
Now, I mention "almost every Cho-Z layer" because I am hopeful the WBO will allow Z Achilles and Bloody Longinus in Burst Limited. Bloody Longinus has a more aggressive shape than Nightmare Longinus (and also always heavier, even if 0, 7, 10, & 00 are banned), but its shape isn't good so I think nL would beat it. Z Achilles has an awful shape to where its attack isn't great and I think it wouldn't be good for stamina either (still because of the shape), but perhaps decent defense. (If they don't, I'll prove it with testing.)
I think Disc-Drivers would be allowed because, while they have a higher weight class, they're not good drivers. Plus, Generate is lighter than Hybrid & Ignition'. Imagine if you ran Sting + Reboot; that's what these drivers are like.
If Xtend+ was banned, we'd see an interesting meta with Destroy' playing a much more important role.
Outer being banned depends. If 0, 7, 10, and 00 (or at least 0, 10, and 00) got banned, Outer would likely be banned.
I would like to see A-mold God Chips (God Chips that give extra burst resistance) being banned because they're really overpowered, difficult to obtain, and completely unintentional. (I am biased because I don't own one.)
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - BeybladeManiac0 - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 09, 2020 1:55 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Since Burst Limited is soon coming to the WBO, I made a list of possible Banned Parts and Speculated Top Tier Combos.
Possible Banned Parts Joining the Ban list
1. Bearing
2. Balkesh B3
3. Xtend+
4. Hypersphere drivers
Possible Top Tier Parts
1. Sr3.0B.Ds
2. G3.0C.At
3. tV3/tA4.0B.X
4. dP4/pP4.0B.At
5. nL/L3.M.O
Predictions
Bearing and Xt+ will be allowed at first, but soon get banned for their LAD.
Balkesh gets banned right out of the gate.
Hypershere gets banned for the same reason as it did in classic.
Note: Those were predictions about burst classic, this is NOT OFFICAL
Don't call me a noob, but what is LAD?
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - lilphilyb - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 3:21 AM)BeybladeManiac0 Wrote:(Feb. 09, 2020 1:55 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Since Burst Limited is soon coming to the WBO, I made a list of possible Banned Parts and Speculated Top Tier Combos.
Possible Banned Parts Joining the Ban list
1. Bearing
2. Balkesh B3
3. Xtend+
4. Hypersphere drivers
Possible Top Tier Parts
1. Sr3.0B.Ds
2. G3.0C.At
3. tV3/tA4.0B.X
4. dP4/pP4.0B.At
5. nL/L3.M.O
Predictions
Bearing and Xt+ will be allowed at first, but soon get banned for their LAD.
Balkesh gets banned right out of the gate.
Hypershere gets banned for the same reason as it did in classic.
Note: Those were predictions about burst classic, this is NOT OFFICAL
Don't call me a noob, but what is LAD?
Life After Death, basically it is when a bey gets knocked down but still spins.
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - bladekid - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 12, 2020 4:26 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: I can't see Bearing (TT) being banned. Left spin layers don't have burst stoppers like Lord/CzS in Standard, so it's super burstable.Most of these things are just banned with the name like all gt and most ChoZ beys. Also G3, SrS3, tS4 and B3 are 100% banned. A lot of the classic banned dash drivers are probably gonna get banned too. I don't think all of the hypersphere layers are going to get banned, at least by their power level and I do think the driver would be fine. Personally, I think Hasbro Br will probably be fine, but if it does get seen as to OP and banned, at least in my Hasbro testing, nothing that isn't Br Hasbro wise can beat Br in opposite spin. Maybe the TT one is worse in opposite spin or hasbro's LAD is just busted compared to TT, but if TT's is as good as the hasbro's LAD wise, hasbro will just be completed outclassed in opposite spin and won't have a chance in the opposite spin game. The best alternates are 00W.Dm-s (but it can be very touchy and inconsistent), 00W.H (it can scrape and self KO), 00.bullet-H and 00E.Rs-H (can just self KO), and probably some other hypersphere drivers I'm not thinking of. Though we will have to see how rise expands, JJ5 is kinda broken in limited.
Other things I can see being banned:
- Hypersphere Layers (or whatever they're called)
- GT layers
- Turbo Valkyrie/Achilles/Spriggan
- Spriggan Requiem and SrS3.
- Maximum Garuda and G3.
- Almost every Cho-Z layer (w/ Level Chips banned)
- GT discs (Blitz, Sting, etc)
Now, I mention "almost every Cho-Z layer" because I am hopeful the WBO will allow Z Achilles and Bloody Longinus in Burst Limited. Bloody Longinus has a more aggressive shape than Nightmare Longinus (and also always heavier, even if 0, 7, 10, & 00 are banned), but its shape isn't good so I think nL would beat it. Z Achilles has an awful shape to where its attack isn't great and I think it wouldn't be good for stamina either (still because of the shape), but perhaps decent defense. (If they don't, I'll prove it with testing.)
I think Disc-Drivers would be allowed because, while they have a higher weight class, they're not good drivers. Plus, Generate is lighter than Hybrid & Ignition'. Imagine if you ran Sting + Reboot; that's what these drivers are like.
If Xtend+ was banned, we'd see an interesting meta with Destroy' playing a much more important role.
Outer being banned depends. If 0, 7, 10, and 00 (or at least 0, 10, and 00) got banned, Outer would likely be banned.
I would like to see A-mold God Chips (God Chips that give extra burst resistance) being banned because they're really overpowered, difficult to obtain, and completely unintentional. (I am biased because I don't own one.)
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - BuilderROB - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 5:05 AM)bladekid Wrote: 00.bullet-H (can just self KO), and probably some other hypersphere drivers I'm not thinking of. Though we will have to see how rise expands, JJ5 is kinda broken in limited.
Wait, Bullet-H has better opposite spin game than Rise-H?
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - bladekid - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 5:24 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:Yeah.(Feb. 13, 2020 5:05 AM)bladekid Wrote: 00.bullet-H (can just self KO), and probably some other hypersphere drivers I'm not thinking of. Though we will have to see how rise expands, JJ5 is kinda broken in limited.
Wait, Bullet-H has better opposite spin game than Rise-H?
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - BuilderROB - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 6:02 AM)bladekid Wrote:(Feb. 13, 2020 5:24 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: Wait, Bullet-H has better opposite spin game than Rise-H?Yeah.
Still, it has that weaker spring, doesn’t it?
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - bladekid - Feb. 13, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 6:05 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:Not really by that much. Rs-H also has kinda a weak spring.(Feb. 13, 2020 6:02 AM)bladekid Wrote: Yeah.
Still, it has that weaker spring, doesn’t it?
RE: Burst Limited Predictions and Speculations - BeybladeManiac0 - Feb. 14, 2020
(Feb. 13, 2020 3:22 AM)lilphilyb Wrote:(Feb. 13, 2020 3:21 AM)BeybladeManiac0 Wrote: Don't call me a noob, but what is LAD?
Life After Death, basically it is when a bey gets knocked down but still spins.
Oh okay. I know what Life After Death means.