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have question about organize guide - rolltidenascar - Jan. 09, 2020
I have questions
do fist torment have to be rank
free to host to under wbo pay 5 dollars to host the tournament ?
my mom say
she is one host torment because I am only minor do relly happen I am host torment because fall under her name or my mom have to host torment or me and i want to host torment for free?
RE: have question about organize guide - BuilderROB - Jan. 09, 2020
(Jan. 09, 2020 5:54 PM)rolltidenascar Wrote: I have questions
do fist torment have to be rank
free to host to under wbo pay 5 dollars to host the tournament ?
my mom say
she is one host torment because I am only minor do relly happen I am host torment because fall under her name or my mom have to host torment or me and i want to host torment for free?
She can’t host it because she would need to be VERY knowledgable about the hobby, and have the heart to do it. If you’re 13 you can take the quiz and host a tournament. I don’t think it has to be ranked and it can be free, however if you are getting prizes you should probably charge $3-5 depending on how expensive the prizes are.
RE: have question about organize guide - DeceasedCrab - Jan. 09, 2020
(Jan. 09, 2020 5:54 PM)rolltidenascar Wrote: I have questions
do fist torment have to be rank
free to host to under wbo pay 5 dollars to host the tournament ?
my mom say
she is one host torment because I am only minor do relly happen I am host torment because fall under her name or my mom have to host torment or me and i want to host torment for free?
I don't know if your first WBO tournament has to be ranked or not. I expect the answer is no, but it probably should be so that you can get experience filling out the spreadsheets and other organizer duties.
Currently, WBO tournaments cost $0 since the WBO PayPal account is in a locked state. However, that will change in the future. Tournaments are free now but later people will have to pay a small fee, and organizers have to collect it and then forward it to the WBO's Paypal. If you're not comfortable with or able to ensure money is collected from every participant, then don't become an organizer.
A lot of people want to become WBO tournament organizers because they think it's the best way to make more WBO tournaments happen that they can participate in (it is, can confirm). However, what most of them don't realize is it's a tremendous amount of work and responsibility, that many people simply aren't capable of doing.
rolltidenascar isn't your mom's account, it's yours. But she will probably be the one driving you to and from tournaments and controlling your schedule, so she has to be okay with everything you're doing. That said, unless she's willing to put in the 50 posts on her own account, and learn how to judge matches and run a tournament and deal with all of the post-processing herself, then she can't be the organizer. That'd be you. I have seen non-participating parents become organizers before! It's rare but it happens. And it's a lot of work, make sure she knows that and reads the organizer's guide. And if she doesn't want you to run tournaments because you're a minor, then you shouldn't run tournaments. Lots of people younger than 18 run tournaments in the PA/MD area, but everyone has different circumstances.
Here's generalized advice for Any prospective organizer:
If you or your caregiver (if you have one) are uncomfortable with you performing any of the following WBO Organizer Duties for a tournament, then you should not apply to become a WBO tournament organizer:
- Collecting entry fees from participants (Eventually, not at current time)
- Using PayPal to send those fees to WBO (Eventually, not at current time)
- Organizing a tournament
- Bringing equipment to run a tournament
- Judging matches
- Bringing tournament legal Beystadiums to the tournament
- Finding other judges (who can bring their tournament legal beystadiums to the tournament)
- Filling out long boring spreadsheets with match results
- Putting those results into the interface on the WBO website
- Collecting and posting the winning combinations
- Having access to a venue for at least 6 hours
- Having a ride to the tournament venue, and a backup plan for getting there in case something happens
If becoming a WBO Organizer isn't in the cards for you right now, that's fine. You can always just organize local non-WBO tournaments with your friends.
RE: have question about organize guide - ReekoBlader - Jan. 09, 2020
I’m seriously serious DC, if u hadn’t made that post...
I would have never understood the broad scope of responsibility and burden... it’s so cool, but... as someone that also wants to become an organizer.... it feels quite daunting to be honest.... which leaves me with this question.... how does someone prepare for the responsibility? Where does an n00b organizer start?
I mean, I’m pretty sure that nobody can just waltz right in with no conditioning.... right..?
RE: have question about organize guide - rolltidenascar - Jan. 09, 2020
I was confused when reading organize thank DeceasedCrab
RE: have question about organize guide - DeceasedCrab - Jan. 09, 2020
(Jan. 09, 2020 7:09 PM)ReekoBlader Wrote: I’m seriously serious DC, if u hadn’t made that post...
I would have never understood the broad scope of responsibility and burden... it’s so cool, but... as someone that also wants to become an organizer.... it feels quite daunting to be honest.... which leaves me with this question.... how does someone prepare for the responsibility? Where does an n00b organizer start?
I mean, I’m pretty sure that nobody can just waltz right in with no conditioning.... right..?
Valid questions. Well, people can start organizing tournaments in regions without other organizers, but in those cases it helps if they're adults who control their own finances and schedules. I don't know how old joyos, BuilderROB, HalfOrcSteve, SupaDav03 are, but I imagine they're old enough to exert more control over their personal lives. And other people, well, they can get help from their parents, as long as they're willing to take care of their organizer responsibilities. You just sort of go for it, and hope for the best!
If you're in a region with other tournaments and other organizers, it's way easier. You just become a judge for other people's tournaments, learn all the aspects of tournament organization that way, and then after you've judged for a while, you find a venue and a date and try to become an organizer yourself. It's still very difficult.
Anyone with sufficient determination to get things done can book a venue or find a park on a specific date, pass the organizer requirements, and become an organizer. But it's much easier for adults, or for bladers with existing WBO organizers in their region. That's why MD/PA, California, and Ontario have so many tournaments.
I should like to hear the opinions of different organizers for how they became organizers and what difficulties they faced. Myself, I'm both old and in a region with a lot of other organizers, so that's basically easy mode.
RE: have question about organize guide - yummyturkey2002 - Jan. 09, 2020
(Jan. 09, 2020 6:49 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:Thanks Crab(Jan. 09, 2020 5:54 PM)rolltidenascar Wrote: I have questions[DC Edit: Trimmed out long response]
do fist torment have to be rank
free to host to under wbo pay 5 dollars to host the tournament ?
my mom say
she is one host torment because I am only minor do relly happen I am host torment because fall under her name or my mom have to host torment or me and i want to host torment for free?
RE: have question about organize guide - joyos - Jan. 09, 2020
Good idea DeceasedCrab!
I am an adult and I have 8+ years of experience of helping run video game tournaments.
When I got wholly into Beyblade and found the WBO, it was a natural transition to be an Organizer in my case. Especially as there was not an active FL Organizer at the time.
RE: have question about organize guide - ReekoBlader - Jan. 10, 2020
Arigatozaemas sansei DeceasedCrab!
(That was “thank you” in Japanese..)
That help quite a bit, i pretty much jus gotta make sure I have everything setup then jus wing it...
RE: have question about organize guide - SupaDav03 - Jan. 10, 2020
(Jan. 10, 2020 7:55 AM)ReekoBlader Wrote: Arigatozaemas sansei DeceasedCrab!
(That was “thank you” in Japanese..)
That help quite a bit, i pretty much jus gotta make sure I have everything setup then jus wing it...
Go for it! I am about as much of a noob as can be. Never hosted any type of tournaments before (card games, video games, Beyblades, etc) and didn’t even know what Beyblades were until last February. My kids wanted to participate in tournaments but there were none in my area so I said screw it, and went hard at becoming an organizer myself. As DeceasedCrab said, you really just need the determination. Read the forums & guides. Ask questions. Collect the equipment. Start thinking of places. Little by little it comes together. And remember, you can start small. You don’t have to jump right into 24 person tournament. I did a unranked tournament with 12 people as a “dry run” to kind of help me work out the kinks. The community here is really fantastic and everyone is willing to help when you run into obstacles. So again, I say Go For It! The more organizers the better IMO.
RE: have question about organize guide - BoogietheBlader - Jan. 10, 2020
(Jan. 09, 2020 7:09 PM)ReekoBlader Wrote: I’m seriously serious DC, if u hadn’t made that post...Fellow n00b organizer here! Don’t be scared about it dude. It helps to have someone else very knowledgeable about beyblades to help at the tournament. For me, that was Infinity-Z and AirkingNeo. And even if you don’t have that, we’re all here backing you up!
I would have never understood the broad scope of responsibility and burden... it’s so cool, but... as someone that also wants to become an organizer.... it feels quite daunting to be honest.... which leaves me with this question.... how does someone prepare for the responsibility? Where does an n00b organizer start?
I mean, I’m pretty sure that nobody can just waltz right in with no conditioning.... right..?
As for where to start... um, I actually don’t know... to be honest I kinda just waltzed in and became an organizer. I’d say as long as you have a general understanding of the rules, you’re fine.
(Jan. 09, 2020 7:25 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:(Jan. 09, 2020 7:09 PM)ReekoBlader Wrote: I’m seriously serious DC, if u hadn’t made that post...
I would have never understood the broad scope of responsibility and burden... it’s so cool, but... as someone that also wants to become an organizer.... it feels quite daunting to be honest.... which leaves me with this question.... how does someone prepare for the responsibility? Where does an n00b organizer start?
I mean, I’m pretty sure that nobody can just waltz right in with no conditioning.... right..?
Valid questions. Well, people can start organizing tournaments in regions without other organizers, but in those cases it helps if they're adults who control their own finances and schedules. I don't know how old joyos, BuilderROB, HalfOrcSteve, SupaDav03 are, but I imagine they're old enough to exert more control over their personal lives. And other people, well, they can get help from their parents, as long as they're willing to take care of their organizer responsibilities. You just sort of go for it, and hope for the best!
If you're in a region with other tournaments and other organizers, it's way easier. You just become a judge for other people's tournaments, learn all the aspects of tournament organization that way, and then after you've judged for a while, you find a venue and a date and try to become an organizer yourself. It's still very difficult.
Anyone with sufficient determination to get things done can book a venue or find a park on a specific date, pass the organizer requirements, and become an organizer. But it's much easier for adults, or for bladers with existing WBO organizers in their region. That's why MD/PA, California, and Ontario have so many tournaments.
I should like to hear the opinions of different organizers for how they became organizers and what difficulties they faced. Myself, I'm both old and in a region with a lot of other organizers, so that's basically easy mode.
Two main problems have either occurred, are occurring, or I’m afraid will occur.
1. Overpopulation. Because I’m the only organizer here, a lot of people are always gonna show up, even if they haven’t entered but just show up for free play. Because of this, I’m afraid that I won’t be able to host a chill, smaller tournament. I fear that every tournament will be big, maybe too big...
2. I’m still a dumb kid. I can’t control my schedule or founds, therefore I’m not a really reliable organizer. It’s all up to my parents to when I can host these things.
RE: have question about organize guide - DeceasedCrab - Jan. 10, 2020
(Jan. 10, 2020 11:15 PM)BoogietheBlader Wrote:But that's the thing Boogie! You've got parents who are supporting you in your hobbies and allowing you to do this! You've talked with them about this at some point and they have, grudgingly or not, allowed you to organize these tournaments. And while you're younger than some of the complete self-starter organizers, you've got a couple of bladers in the area who can help it get going.(Jan. 09, 2020 7:09 PM)ReekoBlader Wrote: I’m seriously serious DC, if u hadn’t made that post...Fellow n00b organizer here! Don’t be scared about it dude. It helps to have someone else very knowledgeable about beyblades to help at the tournament. For me, that was Infinity-Z and AirkingNeo. And even if you don’t have that, we’re all here backing you up!
I would have never understood the broad scope of responsibility and burden... it’s so cool, but... as someone that also wants to become an organizer.... it feels quite daunting to be honest.... which leaves me with this question.... how does someone prepare for the responsibility? Where does an n00b organizer start?
I mean, I’m pretty sure that nobody can just waltz right in with no conditioning.... right..?
As for where to start... um, I actually don’t know... to be honest I kinda just waltzed in and became an organizer. I’d say as long as you have a general understanding of the rules, you’re fine.
(Jan. 09, 2020 7:25 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Valid questions. Well, people can start organizing tournaments in regions without other organizers, but in those cases it helps if they're adults who control their own finances and schedules. I don't know how old joyos, BuilderROB, HalfOrcSteve, SupaDav03 are, but I imagine they're old enough to exert more control over their personal lives. And other people, well, they can get help from their parents, as long as they're willing to take care of their organizer responsibilities. You just sort of go for it, and hope for the best!
If you're in a region with other tournaments and other organizers, it's way easier. You just become a judge for other people's tournaments, learn all the aspects of tournament organization that way, and then after you've judged for a while, you find a venue and a date and try to become an organizer yourself. It's still very difficult.
Anyone with sufficient determination to get things done can book a venue or find a park on a specific date, pass the organizer requirements, and become an organizer. But it's much easier for adults, or for bladers with existing WBO organizers in their region. That's why MD/PA, California, and Ontario have so many tournaments.
I should like to hear the opinions of different organizers for how they became organizers and what difficulties they faced. Myself, I'm both old and in a region with a lot of other organizers, so that's basically easy mode.
Two main problems have either occurred, are occurring, or I’m afraid will occur.
1. Overpopulation. Because I’m the only organizer here, a lot of people are always gonna show up, even if they haven’t entered but just show up for free play. Because of this, I’m afraid that I won’t be able to host a chill, smaller tournament. I fear that every tournament will be big, maybe too big...
2. I’m still a dumb kid. I can’t control my schedule or founds, therefore I’m not a really reliable organizer. It’s all up to my parents to when I can host these things.
Here's the current hypothesis I have that is gradually refining and taking shape:
There's two kinds of organizers.
There's the adults who are total self-starters who are going to be able to decide "I will become a WBO organizer and host tournaments", and do it through sheer force of will and determination.
And then there's the younger bladers (TSO, Yami, Angry Face all started in their teens, same with Ardmore and Natedog) who won't be able to go it alone, but if there are enough existing organizers and judges in a region, they can make it work, because they have a support network of other bladers in place.
So here's my current advice:
If you're an adult, no one can stop you from being an organizer if you try hard enough, go nuts.
If you're young, you need a support network of other bladers in your region before you can successfully organize a tournament, and you need help from your caregivers. Until you cultivate that support network, organizing WBO tournaments is going to be beyond your grasp.