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Outer vs. 00 Disc - Me-has-Bro - Nov. 20, 2019
Which one is better for stamina combos: Outer or 00?
I already own 00 and ask myself if Outer would be an upgrade.
In our wiki it reads: Outer is the best stamina disc in the game.
But why everyone is talking about B3.00W.Br or LS.00W.Br?
Are there combos where Outer is superior to 00? Thank You.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - henwooja1 - Nov. 20, 2019
(Nov. 20, 2019 11:06 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Which one is better for stamina combos: Outer or 00?
I already own 00 and ask myself if Outer would be an upgrade.
In our wiki it reads: Outer is the best stamina disc in the game.
But why everyone is talking about B3.00W.Br or LS.00W.Br?
Are there combos where Outer is superior to 00? Thank You.
Outer has better raw stamina and has more burst resistance
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - BuilderROB - Nov. 20, 2019
(Nov. 20, 2019 11:06 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Which one is better for stamina combos: Outer or 00?The wiki hasn’t been updated to include the newer forge discs. Or any new GT parts for that matter.
I already own 00 and ask myself if Outer would be an upgrade.
In our wiki it reads: Outer is the best stamina disc in the game.
But why everyone is talking about B3.00W.Br or LS.00W.Br?
Are there combos where Outer is superior to 00? Thank You.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - DeceasedCrab - Nov. 20, 2019
Wall synergizes very well with Bearing in opposite spin.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - Me-has-Bro - Nov. 21, 2019
Ok so Wall with Bearing... check.
But back to Outer: So the Wiki is not up to date concerning 00.
Would You think 00 outclasses Outer? I could get Outer quite cheap today, but if it's worse than 00 I let my fingers of it
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - GT1976 - Nov. 21, 2019
(Nov. 21, 2019 8:03 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Ok so Wall with Bearing... check.
But back to Outer: So the Wiki is not up to date concerning 00.
Would You think 00 outclasses Outer? I could get Outer quite cheap today, but if it's worse than 00 I let my fingers of it
Point being, if you want to use a frame (like wall) then 00 is your option because outer does not accept a frame.
00 is the heaviest current disc that can also take a frame. 00 is also very versatile. Outer is more niche. Outer is brilliant on pP/Xt+ but many prefer to use 00C on that combo for extra weight. It also depends if you're building a deck. For example if you use 00W on LS and want a pP combo in your deck also then outer is a good choice given that you've already used 00 and can't repeat parts.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - Me-has-Bro - Nov. 21, 2019
Ok now it is getting interesting. Outer could be the second disc for deck building when 00 is already set.
But I think, 0 is exactly as good as Outer, maybe only 0.5 grams lighter but can be equipped with a frame, thus being more versatile than Outer.
So my conclusion would be for multiple stamina combos in a deck: chose 00 and 0, and only after those, or if You dont own 00 and 0, then You chose Outer.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - Mijthoth - Nov. 21, 2019
00 and 0 are better than Outer.
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - GT1976 - Nov. 21, 2019
It really depends on the combo. pP.Ω.Xt+ won a world championship for a reason. It also won at a time when both 00 and 0 were available. Depending on the layer and driver some combos have more LAD without a frame on the disc. Ω is definately worth having. Opinions will always be varied on which disc to use with which combo. 00W is common but people will still use 0W for the same application. If you can get a "cheap" Ω get it. Especially if you don't already have it.
(Nov. 21, 2019 10:35 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Ok now it is getting interesting. Outer could be the second disc for deck building when 00 is already set.
But I think, 0 is exactly as good as Outer, maybe only 0.5 grams lighter but can be equipped with a frame, thus being more versatile than Outer.
So my conclusion would be for multiple stamina combos in a deck: chose 00 and 0, and only after those, or if You dont own 00 and 0, then You chose Outer.
I probably agree with this to a degree, given that Ω is suited better to defense combos such as pP. 10 and 00 have more stamina than 0 but 0 has more burst resistance as does Ω. Really disc choice comes down to layer/driver/application and deck composition. Plenty to think about. 0,00 and Ω all have a place still in the meta despite GT gimmick disks now widely available. Things also change.
One would also ask why 2 stamina combos in 1 deck? Given pP combos are still winning and the increase in winning attack layers like Judgement, Zwei and possibly KO also. Are 2 stamina combos a good idea?
RE: Outer vs. 00 Disc - SupaDav03 - Nov. 21, 2019
(Nov. 20, 2019 11:06 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Which one is better for stamina combos: Outer or 00?
I already own 00 and ask myself if Outer would be an upgrade.
In our wiki it reads: Outer is the best stamina disc in the game.
But why everyone is talking about B3.00W.Br or LS.00W.Br?
Are there combos where Outer is superior to 00? Thank You.
If we’re talking raw stamina, I’d vote Outer. It’s a good bit lighter than 00 but if your using an already heavy combo, ie Perfect Phoenix, you could trade off the extra weight of 00 for the extra stamina of Outer. On something like hS, I found 0 or 10 to be better than Outer because it needed the extra weight & frame to stand up to some of the newer GT beys.
So I don’t think there’s a definitive answer overall, but there is on which combo your using.