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A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - Apr. 29, 2008 Quote:Trends in the opinions of America's youngest voters are often a barometer of shifting political winds. And that appears to be the case in 2008. The current generation of young voters, who came of age during the George W. Bush years, is leading the way in giving the Democrats a wide advantage in party identification, just as the previous generation of young people who grew up in the Reagan years -- Generation X -- fueled the Republican surge of the mid-1990's.[Image: democraticboom7.gif] Quote:In fact, the Democrats' advantage among the young is now so broad-based that younger men as well as younger women favor the Democrats over the GOP -- making their age category the only one in the electorate in which men are significantly more inclined to self-identify as Democrats rather than as Republicans.[Image: partyindentifactionbyparty-1.gif] Quote:The Democratic Party has not always held an edge among the young. In 1992, young voters divided their partisan loyalties roughly evenly (46% Democratic, 47% Republican). By 1996, young voters were more Democratic than Republican, and the Democratic advantage increased slightly in 2000 and 2004.[Image: democraticboom.gif] I touched upon this in my random thoughts post, but I thought i'd share here. Hopefully this pans out with the upcoming election (where young voters actually come out to vote) RE: A more progressive America - Roan - Apr. 29, 2008 You better carp believe I'm voting. And it sure as hell won't be for McCain. RE: A more progressive America - Ominous - Apr. 29, 2008 I love how the Republicans are media ghosts in this upcoming election. I'm almost certain the coverage between Barack and Hillary is already much more intense than the race between the winner and McCain will ever get. RE: A more progressive America - Nic - Apr. 29, 2008 It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - Apr. 29, 2008 Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ Is the USA not very popular in Singapore? Funny, a lot of the world loved us under Bill Clinton, but Bush has totally reversed that. RE: A more progressive America - Bey Brad - Apr. 29, 2008 Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ that's okay singapore is kind of insanely conservative anyway RE: A more progressive America - Katashi - Apr. 30, 2008 I'm usually neutral in things like this, but I'm honestly hoping Obama wins. Despite what many people say or think, I honestly think he'll have a good chance against McCain. I also think that if they set some random guy up against McCain for the Democrats that that guy would win. Simply put, people are fed up with the way the Republicans have been running the country for the past eight years, the Democrats seem to be wanting to put some normalicy and sanity back into the US. Also, I feel like karate chopping Wright in the nuts. RE: A more progressive America - Nic - Apr. 30, 2008 Artie Wrote:Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ To be honest, most Asians don't really have a very good impression of Americans, or Western society in general. Most of us Asians like individual Westerners, but not Western society as a whole, which strikes me as rather weird. It isn't just Bush. The effects of Bush are mainly on a more political level; the cultural level of unpopularity already existed before this. Many people here think along the lines of "It's good that Bush is going to be gone, but whoever becomes the next president, Americans are still going to be the same." These people generally don't need to look at politics since its something happening to a far-away country and don't really connect the politics to the local changes e.g. price of food and so on. Many Asians seen Westerns as overly outgoing and bumbling; I suppose many Westerners have an Asian stereotype as cunning and untrustworthy? In the end, it all boils down to racial stereotypes I suppose. RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - Apr. 30, 2008 Composer of Requiems Wrote:Artie Wrote:Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ My question is whether these stereotypes were more or less prevalent before Bush took office. RE: A more progressive America - Nic - Apr. 30, 2008 Artie Wrote:I personally doubt it. Bush coming into office was rather long ago, and my memories from those days are rather fuzzy. But I don't recall seeing people thinking very differently about Western society.Composer of Requiems Wrote:Artie Wrote:Composer of Requiems Wrote:It's probably not going to affect the local opinion of western society much =/ Also, from current inspection, there seems to me to be generally two stereotypes going on, the "Westerner" stereotype and the "President Bush" stereotype. Most people here who poke fun of Bush don't really correlate it to Western society (although they usually also poke fun at Western society as well). RE: A more progressive America - SexyMichael - Apr. 30, 2008 The whole "individualist" western culture system vs. the "collectivist" Asian culture system has always created a cultural barrier between the two parts of the world. RE: A more progressive America - Pich - May. 21, 2008 Ugh, I hate this topic. It makes me wanna argue about this but I can't..... This sux. RE: A more progressive America - jasonresno - May. 21, 2008 Generation x? [Image: 0018bba9_360x360.jpg] I'm a fan of that. RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - May. 21, 2008 Pichuscute Wrote:Ugh, I hate this topic. It makes me wanna argue about this but I can't..... This sux. Excuse me? Jasonreno: Yeah, this is a serious topic about a topic I feel strongly about. Save it for Random Thoughts. RE: A more progressive America - AnnieDuck - May. 21, 2008 OBAMATAR 8D RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - May. 21, 2008 [Image: obamacampaignholyshit2eq6.jpg] But seriously, I'm curious to see what you have to argue, Pichuscute. It's just data on how the country is moving from center right to center left RE: A more progressive America - jasonresno - May. 22, 2008 ^^ That's not a very serious picture either -__- The data speaks for itself, I don't know exactly what there is to discuss? RE: A more progressive America - Pich - May. 22, 2008 Well, its not the data, its the part where America is better since its not republican, I am independent, or would be, but I lean Republican, I just don't really agree with some of the things that Obama or Clinton want to do. (I don't completely agree with McCain either, but I agree the most with him, so oh well.)Btw, I can't really argue either since I don't know much about the candidates, I just remember which one I wanted vote for ( I did I project on it). But, ya , its more opinion than anything else. I also was thinking of bringing Global Warmning( which was mainly what I was gonna argue about) but I won't because its not worth it anymore. RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - May. 22, 2008 Pichuscute Wrote:Well, its not the data, its the part where America is better since its not republican, I am independent, or would be, but I lean Republican, I just don't really agree with some of the things that Obama or Clinton want to do. (I don't completely agree with McCain either, but I agree the most with him, so oh well.)Btw, I can't really argue either since I don't know much about the candidates, I just remember which one I wanted vote for ( I did I project on it). But, ya , its more opinion than anything else. I also was thinking of bringing Global Warmning( which was mainly what I was gonna argue about) but I won't because its not worth it anymore. For the most part, I am very moderate. It's only recently that I've gotten the propensity to agree with Liberal ideas. The data is showing the American's people dissatisfaction with the Republican party. Who can blame them? The party is a shell of its former self; one that Christian Evangelicals cling to. The kinds of people who don't want gay marriage-- why I do not know. What happened to separation of church and state-- and want all abortions illegal (personally, I want it so it's only in extreme cases so it's not contrived to become a form of birth control). If the Republican Party is to survive and not go the way of the Whigs, it has to reinvent itself; something the Democratic Party has been able to do. I may not be as Liberal as Obama, but this country needs to change and get back the respect it once had in the world. P.S. Jason, I was probably harsh but it's probably not a good thing that I come into one of my old topics to see a picture of a wrestler. I apologize. As for what's there to discuss, I'm going to assume you're joking? It seems we're having a discussion now (?) and have been since the thread has started? RE: A more progressive America - Evan - May. 22, 2008 I'm an Obama supporter through-and-through. If I was 18, I'd sure as hell vote for him. Honestly, no one else has anything to bring to the table that's new. RE: A more progressive America - jasonresno - May. 22, 2008 I understand man, I'm sorry about that. I was doin' it for the cheap lul'z. I'll actually make up for it and partake in the discussion. I'm an Obama supporter though I'll admit I'm not that well informed. I really hate politics and everything behind it as a whole but Barack struck me for whatever reason. FYI, the majority of kids my age around here are in love with Ron Paul. RE: A more progressive America - Pich - May. 22, 2008 If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk). I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf). RE: A more progressive America - Roan - May. 22, 2008 Pichuscute Wrote:First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk). This is totally ridiculous, but I'm sure you knew that already. By your logic, I could apply this same statement: I think being a Christian is wrong, so therefore that entire group of people should be denied basic civil rights. Edit: Also, I really have an inclination to believe that you aren't just kidding about them going to hell. RE: A more progressive America - mdhvdukshsj - May. 22, 2008 Pichuscute Wrote:If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care (cuz they're going to hell anyways, hehe, naw jk). I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf). If you're not going to even make an effort to look up words, then don't even bother. Christians don't want gays to marry? Why? I study theology every day and I have NEVER seen this in the Bible, nor in the commentaries. In fact, your savior preaches equality for everyone. Why can't you follow the same example? And your last argument (or lack thereof) makes absolutely no sense. Do you know what separation of church and state is? If you did, you would see they have NOT been separated during the Bush Administration (like on abortion or gay marriage legislation). Science and politics shouldn't be separated? Global warming isn't political? Someone that affects the economy as great as it possibly can? Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about here. RE: A more progressive America - Pich - May. 22, 2008 Artie Wrote:Like I said, I don't really care one way or the other about gays getting married, they can as far as I'm concerned, I guess. There is a place somewhere in the bible (my mom said) that Jesus said that men should only be with women and vice versa. ButPichuscute Wrote:If I knew what propensity and Evangicals was/were than I could answer that post, lol. I never heard of those words sorry. But, i'll try. First of all, Christians don't want gays to marry because being gay is wrong to them/us. I'm Christian and I never really liked the idea of them marrying but I don't really care. I completely agree with you on abortion, tho. But when has the church and state not been seperated? Only thing I know about that should be seperated from each other are science and politics (global warming. many ppl bring politics into it, wtf). I can't really back it up since I don't have proof. I also was on my PS3 and only had enuff time left to post real quick before I had to get off. I checked them after, tho. Also, I don't really know what I'm talking about when it comes top the Bush Administration so your probably right, I'm just trying to back up Republicans/Christians and in vain, lol. Finally, global warming has been taken way too far in politics to the point that if you believe that it is false than you get called worse holocaust denier, but I guess your right about it being involved in politics if global warming is true. |