(Sep. 28, 2019  6:42 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: Here are some tests I did with Amaterios A3. As far as the weight goes, I got 9.66 grams when weighing the Layer. The first section was testing Same and Opposite Spin Stamina against Caynox C3, Balkesh B3, Garuda G3, and Spryzen Requiem S3. The second section was testing KO Attack and comparing its performance to Xcalius X3, one of the best Hasbro Right Spin Attack Layers we have right now.

Section 1: Same & Opposite Spin Stamina (Click to View)

I used 7 Bearing when Amaterios A3 faced Caynox C3 and Balkesh B3 and 7 Atomic when Amaterios A3 faced Garuda G3 and Spryzen Requiem S3. Discs and Drivers were switched halfway through the tests.

Tests (Click to View)

Amaterios A3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. C3 OS
   
2. C3 OS
   
3. C3 OS
   
4. C3 OS
   
5. C3 OS
   
6. C3 OS
   
7. C3 OS
   
8. C3 OS
   
9. C3 OS
   
10. C3 OS
    
11. C3 OS
    
12. C3 OS
    
13. C3 OS
    
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15. C3 OS
    
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18. C3 OS
    
19. C3 OS
    
20. C3 OS
    

- A3.7.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- C3.7.Br: 20 OS (100% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: A3 had 7 (1) and Br (3), C3 had 7 (2) and Br (4)
Battles 11-20: A3 had 7 (2) and Br (4), C3 had 7 (1) and Br (3)

Amaterios A3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Balkesh B3 7 Bearing (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. B3 OS
   
2. B3 OS
   
3. B3 OS
   
4. B3 OS
   
5. B3 OS
   
6. B3 OS
   
7. B3 OS
   
8. B3 OS
   
9. B3 OS
   
10. B3 OS
    
11. B3 OS
    
12. B3 OS
    
13. B3 OS
    
14. B3 OS
    
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20. B3 OS
    

- A3.7.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- B3.7.Br: 20 OS (100% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: A3 had 7 (1) and Br (3), B3 had 7 (2) and Br (4)
Battles 11-20: A3 had 7 (2) and Br (4), B3 had 7 (1) and Br (3)

Amaterios A3 7 Atomic (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7 Atomic (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. G3 OS
   
2. G3 OS
   
3. G3 OS
   
4. G3 OS
   
5. G3 OS
   
6. G3 OS
   
7. G3 OS
   
8. G3 OS
   
9. G3 OS
   
10. G3 OS
    
11. G3 OS
    
12. G3 OS
    
13. G3 OS
    
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20. G3 OS
    

- A3.7.At: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- G3.7.At: 20 OS (100% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: A3 had 7 (1) and At (1), G3 had 7 (2) and At (2)
Battles 11-20: A3 had 7 (2) and At (2), G3 had 7 (1) and At (1)

Amaterios A3 7 Atomic (Odd) vs. (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Atomic (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. SRS3 KO
   
2. SRS3 OS
   
3. SRS3 OS
   
4. SRS3 OS
   
5. SRS3 OS
   
6. A3 KO
   
7. SRS3 KO
   
8. SRS3 OS
   
9. A3 KO
   
10. SRS3 OS
    
11. SRS3 OS
    
12. SRS3 Burst
    
13. SRS3 KO
    
14. SRS3 Burst
    
15. A3 OS
    
16. SRS3 OS
    
17. SRS3 OS
    
18. SRS3 OS
    
19. A3 KO
    
20. A3 KO
    

- A3.7.At: 4 KO, 1 OS (25% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.At: 10 OS, 3 KO, 2 Burst (75% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: A3 had 7 (1) and At (1), SRS3 had 7 (2) and At (2)
Battles 11-20: A3 had 7 (2) and At (2), SRS3 had 7 (1) and At (1)

Amaterios A3 7 Atomic (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Atomic (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. SRS3 OS
   
2. SRS3 OS
   
3. SRS3 OS
   
4. SRS3 OS
   
5. SRS3 OS
   
6. SRS3 OS
   
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11. SRS3 OS
    
12. A3 OS
    
13. SRS3 OS
    
14. A3 OS
    
15. SRS3 OS
    
16. A3 OS
    
17. SRS3 OS
    
18. SRS3 OS
    
19. SRS3 OS
    
20. A3 OS
    

- A3.7.At: 4 OS (20% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.At: 16 OS (80% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: A3 had 7 (1) and At (1), SRS3 had 7 (2) and At (2)
Battles 11-20: A3 had 7 (2) and At (2), SRS3 had 7 (1) and At (1)

Section 2: KO Attack (Click to View)

After having Xcalius X3 00Bump Hunter face Caynox C3 7 Bearing, I used Amaterios A3 on the same setup as Xcalius X3 to compare performance.

Benchmark (Click to View)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Xcalius X3 00Bump Hunter (Second Sliding Shoot)

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. X3 KO
   
2. X3 KO
   
3. X3 Burst
   
4. X3 KO
   
5. X3 KO
   
6. X3 Burst
   
7. X3 Burst
   
8. X3 Burst
   
9. X3 Burst
   
10. X3 Burst
    

- C3.7.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- X3.00B.Hn: 6 Burst, 4 KO (100% Win Rate)

Test (Click to View)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Amaterios A3 00Bump Hunter (Second Sliding Shoot)

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. A3 KO
   
2. C3 OS
   
3. C3 OS
   
4. C3 OS
   
5. A3 Burst
   
6. C3 OS
   
7. C3 OS
   
8. A3 Burst
   
9. A3 Burst
   
10. C3 OS
    

- C3.7.Br: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- A3.00B.Hn: 3 Burst, 1 KO (40% Win Rate)

Final Thoughts (Click to View)

In the first section, Amaterios A3 did pretty bad overall against its Same and Opposite Spin Stamina opponents. Its win rate never cracked 25% and most of the time it was 0%. In the second section, Amaterios A3 didn't do that bad actually. It was able to Burst and KO Caynox C3, however, the problem with this Layer is the fact that there's no metal on it, meaning it has a lot less power behind its attacks. Coupled with the fact that the Layer's contact points are very small blades, you'd probably be better off using heavier Layers like Xcalius X3, Turbo Achilles A4, etc. Overall, I wouldn't recommend using this Layer. The Layers you'll see me test next are actually the first few Turbo Layers I tested, however they need some revisiting as I didn't test them against certain things that I test things against nowadays. Those Layers are Forneus F4, Wonder Valtryek V4, and Z Achilles A4.

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:44 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: I wonder how it would have done if it had metal on it.

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:46 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:44 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: I wonder how it would have done if it had metal on it.

I don't remember how much the Takara Tomy Shining Amaterios weighs, but I definitely think Amaterios A3 would've done better with metal.

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:47 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Yeah. How good are the slopes?

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:50 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:47 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Yeah. How good are the slopes?

I think they're pretty good, as it only burst twice in my tests. But when I was testing it for Attack, I didn't run into any issues with it self-bursting in battle. But of course, good slope tightness doesn't always equal good overall as you can see here.

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Ok. Maybe this would be good in a Hasbro-only tournament. Would it be ok on destroy or bearing?

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:56 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2019  6:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Ok. Maybe this would be good in a Hasbro-only tournament. Would it be ok on destroy or bearing?

First, Hasbro-Only is oofed as it hasn't had an event in like 2 years or more, so yeah... Second, even in the context of a Hasbro-Only tournament, I really don't see this Layer doing that well, as it's outclassed in Stamina (ex: Caynox C3) and Attack (ex: Xcalius X3) by other Hasbro Layers.

(Sep. 28, 2019  8:01 PM)Armor Wrote: Would this work as a good defense layer? Could you try something like A3 00B At against your Xcalius combo?

(Sep. 28, 2019  8:18 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2019  8:01 PM)Armor Wrote: Would this work as a good defense layer? Could you try something like A3 00B At against your Xcalius combo?

Oofed.

Amaterios A3 00Bump Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 00Bump Hunter (Second Sliding Shoot): Armor

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. X3 Burst
   
2. X3 KO
   
3. X3 OS
   
4. A3 OS
   
5. X3 OS
   
6. X3 Burst
   
7. X3 OS
   
8. X3 KO
   
9. X3 KO
   
10. X3 Burst
    

- A3.00B.At: 1 OS (10% Win Rate)
- X3.00B.Hn: 3 OS, 3 Burst, 3 KO (90% Win Rate)

Amaterios A3 is under 10 grams, so I feel like even on other Drivers used in Defense Combos like Unite for example, it'd just get ragdolled by Xcalius X3 and other heavy Hasbro Attack Layers. X3 was even able to OS A3 sometimes in the event of a Burst or KO not happening because of all the hits lol.