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Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - MonoDragon - Feb. 24, 2019
Quote:Cho-Z Valkyrie 8 Destroy vs. Archer Hercules Outer EternalThe Cho-Z Gimmick was activated every time. Cho-Z Valkyrie's Cho-Z Wings are simply too big and cover up the points of recoil, meanwhile Cho-Z Achilles has so much recoil it actually hurts to grab and the Cho-Z Wings are tiny and recessed, so they barely cover up anything at all
Cho-Z Valkyrie: 2 Bursts, 1 SF
Archer Hercules: 17 SF
Cho-Z Valkyrie Win Rate: 15%
Cho-Z Achilles 8 Destroy vs. Archer Hercules Outer Eternal
Cho-Z Achilles: 10 Bursts, 1 SF, 1 KO
Archer Hercules: 8 SF
Cho-Z Achilles Win Rate: 60%
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - Infinite.Zero - Feb. 24, 2019
(Feb. 24, 2019 2:13 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:Could you test Ko strength?Quote:Cho-Z Valkyrie 8 Destroy vs. Archer Hercules Outer EternalThe Cho-Z Gimmick was activated every time. Cho-Z Valkyrie's Cho-Z Wings are simply too big and cover up the points of recoil, meanwhile Cho-Z Achilles has so much recoil it actually hurts to grab and the Cho-Z Wings are tiny and recessed, so they barely cover up anything at all
Cho-Z Valkyrie: 2 Bursts, 1 SF
Archer Hercules: 17 SF
Cho-Z Valkyrie Win Rate: 15%
Cho-Z Achilles 8 Destroy vs. Archer Hercules Outer Eternal
Cho-Z Achilles: 10 Bursts, 1 SF, 1 KO
Archer Hercules: 8 SF
Cho-Z Achilles Win Rate: 60%
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - MonoDragon - Feb. 24, 2019
(Feb. 24, 2019 2:19 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:(Feb. 24, 2019 2:13 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: The Cho-Z Gimmick was activated every time. Cho-Z Valkyrie's Cho-Z Wings are simply too big and cover up the points of recoil, meanwhile Cho-Z Achilles has so much recoil it actually hurts to grab and the Cho-Z Wings are tiny and recessed, so they barely cover up anything at allCould you test Ko strength?
What do you mean? KO and Burst Attack combos are exactly the same besides Layers.
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - Infinite.Zero - Feb. 24, 2019
(Feb. 24, 2019 2:20 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:Oops. My bad. I didnt read your first post carefully.(Feb. 24, 2019 2:19 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote: Could you test Ko strength?
What do you mean? KO and Burst Attack combos are exactly the same besides Layers.
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - MWF - Feb. 24, 2019
Was there any reason for no frames on the CZ combos?
I can guess you used 8 because of the OWD but wouldn't a frame like Bump improve that OWD slightly?
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - MonoDragon - Feb. 24, 2019
(Feb. 24, 2019 3:42 AM)MWF Wrote: Was there any reason for no frames on the CZ combos?
I can guess you used 8 because of the OWD but wouldn't a frame like Bump improve that OWD slightly?
I just eventually stopped using Frames on Combos, launchers were complaining about the incredibly heavy weights of Cho-Z Combos
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - MWF - Feb. 25, 2019
(Feb. 24, 2019 4:29 AM)MonoDragon Wrote:(Feb. 24, 2019 3:42 AM)MWF Wrote: Was there any reason for no frames on the CZ combos?
I can guess you used 8 because of the OWD but wouldn't a frame like Bump improve that OWD slightly?
I just eventually stopped using Frames on Combos, launchers were complaining about the incredibly heavy weights of Cho-Z Combos
Makes sense.
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - Ash_Ketchum_007 - Mar. 02, 2019
Can you test them in opposite spin matchups?
P.S:I thought the test you made earlier could have been slightly advantageous for for achilles because used the disk 8 which has 2 wings which could have better synergy with achilles than valkyire(as achilles has 2 wings just like 8 disk,the contact points can line up).Can you also do a test using zenith on both vs aH outer eternal?
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - HR20 - Mar. 02, 2019
Wait, then how in the anime did aiga defeat valt, wait i forgot he was using wonder/winning valkyrie not zenith evolution
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - Adarsh Abhinav - Mar. 02, 2019
(Mar. 02, 2019 12:11 PM)HR20 Wrote: Wait, then how in the anime did aiga defeat valt, wait i forgot he was using wonder/winning valkyrie not zenith evolution
Anime logic *SiGH*
That has nothing to do with toyline, except advertisement
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - BoostedBlader - Mar. 03, 2019
I personally use czA 00 Destroy. It works really well.
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - HR20 - Jun. 07, 2020
(Mar. 02, 2019 12:26 PM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote:(Mar. 02, 2019 12:11 PM)HR20 Wrote: Wait, then how in the anime did aiga defeat valt, wait i forgot he was using wonder/winning valkyrie not zenith evolution
Anime logic *SiGH*
That has nothing to do with toyline, except advertisement
Anime logic really do be confusing me tho
RE: Cho-Z Valkyrie vs Cho-Z Achilles - DeceasedCrab - Jun. 08, 2020
(Jun. 07, 2020 6:00 PM)HR20 Wrote:(Mar. 02, 2019 12:26 PM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote: Anime logic *SiGH*
That has nothing to do with toyline, except advertisement
Anime logic really do be confusing me tho
Do not necropost a thread from a year ago and contribute nothing that adds to the testing discussion.