(Nov. 21, 2017  12:22 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Has anyone  trued armed for spin stealing i think it might have good LAD

(Nov. 21, 2017  12:44 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  12:22 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Has anyone  trued armed for spin stealing i think it might have good LAD

Armed at this point is too light, also, you don't wanna risk scraping. If you really want to use a non-Core disc for spin steal, Spread or Yell are the main options.

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:05 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  12:44 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: Armed at this point is too light, also, you don't wanna risk scraping. If you really want to use a non-Core disc for spin steal, Spread or Yell are the main options.

Umm spread isnt good for spin stealing it isnt wide enough for dF. Polish is right now the best disk fpr spin equalizing and armed has a similar shape to it also scraping doesnt do much damage too spin stealers since they steal spin

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:09 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:05 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Umm spread isnt good for spin stealing it isnt wide enough for dF. Polish is right now the best disk fpr spin equalizing and armed has a similar shape to it also scraping doesnt do much damage too spin stealers since they steal spin

Do you even know how spin stealing works? If it scrapes it loses spin faster and can't steal spin.

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:21 PM)MonoDragon Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:09 PM)dt1000 Wrote: Do you even know how spin stealing works? If it scrapes it loses spin faster and can't steal spin.

Which is why Spin stealers Use Atomic to prevent scraping in the first place. High LAD Disks are used just to increase chances of win by Spin Finish

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:22 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:21 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: Which is why Spin stealers Use Atomic to prevent scraping in the first place. High LAD Disks are used just to increase chances of win by Spin Finish

So Glaive and Atomic would be better.

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:09 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:05 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Umm spread isnt good for spin stealing it isnt wide enough for dF. Polish is right now the best disk fpr spin equalizing and armed has a similar shape to it also scraping doesnt do much damage too spin stealers since they steal spin

Do you even know how spin stealing works? If it scrapes it loses spin faster and can't steal spin.

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:07 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: I did tried Armed and its ok but I didn't found it to have that great LAD. Atleast anything more then Polish. Even when you don't have polish then too Down would be better. Also BTW low weight of arm might make it spin steal well but it might not retain spin as well and heavier the bey is you have more chances of bursting opponent too so other heavier disk could be more safer against something like mG

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:11 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  4:09 PM)dt1000 Wrote: Do you even know how spin stealing works? If it scrapes it loses spin faster and can't steal spin.

I probably know more than u .armed's scraping problem isnt that severe.

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:07 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: I did tried Armed and its ok but I didn't found it to have that great LAD. Atleast anything more then Polish. Even when you don't have polish then too Down would be better. Also BTW low weight of arm might make it spin steal well but it might not retain spin as well and heavier the bey is you have more chances of bursting opponent too so other heavier disk could be more safer against something like mG

Now thats the answer i was looking for thanks

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:16 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:11 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: I probably know more than u .armed's scraping problem isnt that severe.
Now thats the answer i was looking for thanks

If it has a scraping problem at all, it's outclassed for Spin Steal. Furthermore, Armed is too light so it would be pushed around much easier.

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:21 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:16 PM)dt1000 Wrote: If it has a scraping problem at all, it's outclassed for Spin Steal. Furthermore, Armed is too light so it would be pushed around much easier.

Scraping really can be problem but we are taking about LAD. Bey's ability to roll or spin steal even after its precession ends or it falls over. If a part can make bey get back to precession or have few extra rotation after falling over it can be really useful in spin stealing as even 1 rotation can give you win in WBO tournaments

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:28 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:21 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Scraping really can be problem but we are taking about LAD. Bey's ability to roll or spin steal even after its precession ends or it falls over. If a part can make bey get back to precession or have few extra rotation after falling over it can be really useful in spin stealing as even 1 rotation can give you win in WBO tournaments

You'd still have to be heavy or attack types could KO you.

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:43 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:28 PM)dt1000 Wrote: You'd still have to be heavy or attack types could KO you.

the main goal of a spin stealer is to outspin defense and stamina types

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:28 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:21 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Scraping really can be problem but we are taking about LAD. Bey's ability to roll or spin steal even after its precession ends or it falls over. If a part can make bey get back to precession or have few extra rotation after falling over it can be really useful in spin stealing as even 1 rotation can give you win in WBO tournaments

You'd still have to be heavy or attack types could KO you.

(Nov. 21, 2017  6:00 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  5:43 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: the main goal of a spin stealer is to outspin defense and stamina types

No, the main goal is to outspin all types. If it can be knocked out and that can be prevented while building it, why not?

(Nov. 21, 2017  7:22 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  6:00 PM)dt1000 Wrote: No, the main goal is to outspin all types. If it can be knocked out and that can be prevented while building it, why not?

Well theres only one true spin stealer combo that is quite dominant for some time and can outspin almost all current meta stamina/defense combos df p at and df p at is quite weak against attack

(Nov. 21, 2017  8:12 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  7:22 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Well theres only one true spin stealer combo that is quite dominant for some time and can outspin almost all current meta stamina/defense combos df p at and df p at is quite weak against attack

When weak launched, dF P At can still defeat attack types almost guarrenteed.

(Nov. 21, 2017  8:32 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  8:12 PM)dt1000 Wrote: When weak launched, dF P At can still defeat attack types almost guarrenteed.

it doesnt its too light.dnt beleive me then try it urself.

(Nov. 21, 2017  9:10 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  8:32 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: it doesnt its too light.dnt beleive me then try it urself.

Don't have polish or atomic. Try 7Glaive instead, then it works.

(Nov. 21, 2017  9:15 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  9:10 PM)dt1000 Wrote: Don't have polish or atomic. Try 7Glaive instead, then it works.

Heres the thing:
dF polish at beats every right spin stamina/defense  and loses to attack while the 4/7 glaive variant performs exactly opposite way

(Nov. 21, 2017  9:23 PM)dt1000 Wrote:

(Nov. 21, 2017  9:15 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Heres the thing:
dF polish at beats every right spin stamina/defense  and loses to attack while the 4/7 glaive variant performs exactly opposite way

What about 2G or 8G?

(Dec. 06, 2017  2:31 AM)Dragunix Wrote: the only problem with 4/7G IMO is that it takes more force to keep the spin going, as more mass equals more force for the greater acceleration...

but idk much about bey-physics or the meta too well, just a frame of general knowledge about what is more usable...and polish is kinda light, but usable against certain types of combos...

(Dec. 06, 2017  2:31 AM)Dragunix Wrote: the only problem with 4/7G IMO is that it takes more force to keep the spin going, as more mass equals more force for the greater acceleration...

but idk much about bey-physics or the meta too well, just a frame of general knowledge about what is more usable...and polish is kinda light, but usable against certain types of combos...