• not that great at stamina, but still overall average when paired with defence.
  
• There were a lot of Burst finishes in testing stamina, i redid them because it wouldn't be fair testing stamina, and including burst finishes.
  
• I used Valkyrie, instead of V2, because one of the screw on my V2 came off, i will redo defence testing once i get a screwdriver to fix my V2.
  
• Yell work very well with K2.
  
• i wanted to test DYR against odin, but it didn't really seem to matter what disk was used Heavy, Gravity, or Yell, they would all beat OHD.
  
• Since Deathscyther can already beat D2, there wasn't much of a point of using Yell against D2, as Deathscyther can beat it with Heavy and Gravity.
  

(Mar. 30, 2017  5:08 PM)NEET no Kamil Wrote:

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Notes

• There were a lot of Burst finishes in testing stamina, i redid them because it wouldn't be fair testing stamina, and including burst finishes.
  

(Mar. 30, 2017  11:30 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Tbh I think you should really avoid doing that. Because despite burst finish for stamina might not feel right, it's still a way of winning against opponent for not just attack but also stamina and defense. Reason I want you to include stamina bursts is because we could know if with this disk would make stamina types resist burst or burst other opponents more. This is not only about disk but other parts too.

Like in case a combo for example D2GO was always able to OS combo like W2GY (my creation lol) in tests. But when someone decide to use D2 against W2 at tournament and is confident enough it can OS D2 will get bursted and lose.

BTW thanks alot for testing. If possible can you try VYZ? Maybe width of Yell can help it to stall longer and maybe faster

(Mar. 31, 2017  4:08 PM)UGottaCetus Wrote: When you get the change can you try B2YX or B2YM? I wanna see how it does for attack and it matches up well with B2 contact points.

(Jul. 13, 2017  8:07 PM)Wombat Wrote: diddly darn i did some yell testings today just so i could post the thread but then i discovered someone already gone and done it...

Wyvern Yell Survive vs. Wyvern Heavy Survive
WYS: 11 wins (all OS)
WHS: 9 wins (all OS)
WYS win rate: 55%
This wasn't a matter of who was launched first like you might think, one of my Wyverns has significantly better balance than the other (but it's the only Stamina/Defense Layer I have 2 of), so I swapped parts halfway through the testing. The first 10 rounds went 7-3 in Heavy's favor, but once I switched the better-balance Wyvern to Yell, it went 8-2.

Wyvern Yell Survive vs. Wyvern Spread Survive
WYS: 5 wins (all OS)
WSS: 15 wins (all OS)
3 ties redone
WYS win rate: 25%
Spread crushed Yell pretty badly regardless of which Wyvern it was on. Interesting since this seemed to be the opposite results that Angry Face was getting using OSR and OYR, maybe Yell just resists destabilization better than Spread?

Neptune Spread Revolve vs. Drain Fafnir 4Glaive Atomic
NSR: 3 wins (all OS)
dF.4G.At: 7 wins (all OS)
a whole bunch of ties redone
NSR win rate: 30%
Note: my Spread is not painted, and I didn't take the time to polish the edges of either it or my Yell when I did these tests.

Neptune Yell Revolve vs. Drain Fafnir 4Glaive Atomic
NYR: 8 wins (all OS)
dF.4G.At: 2 wins (all OS)
5 or 6 ties redone
NYR win rate: 80%
Are we really sure that 4G is better on dF Atomic than Polish? Because from the few times I tested dF.P.At vs NYR at AN in between battles, dF would win every time (though Manicben's Atomic might have just been better than mine). Either way, even with only 10 rounds the results seem to indicate that for Stamina, Yell performs better against opposite spin than Spread, but worse in same spin.

(Jul. 13, 2017  8:07 PM)Wombat Wrote: Spread crushed Yell pretty badly regardless of which Wyvern it was on. Interesting since this seemed to be the opposite results that Angry Face was getting using OSR and OYR, maybe Yell just resists destabilization better than Spread?

(Jul. 13, 2017  8:07 PM)Wombat Wrote: Are we really sure that 4G is better on dF Atomic than Polish? Because from the few times I tested dF.P.At vs NYR at AN in between battles, dF would win every time (though Manicben's Atomic might have just been better than mine). Either way, even with only 10 rounds the results seem to indicate that for Stamina, Yell performs better against opposite spin than Spread, but worse in same spin.

(Jul. 19, 2017  10:58 PM)Suzaku-X Wrote: Wait. So why exactly is Yell bad at same spin? Like what about it's properties makes it this way?