(Feb. 05, 2016  1:12 AM)Kai-V Wrote: All BeyLaunchers take time to adapt to if you are not used to using them, but some people do prefer the Light Launcher 2 regardless, although we are not able to verify if they really went as far as mastering BeyLaunchers before saying they prefered the Light Launcher 2 and that it was all the same. Scientifically speaking, I believe that the BeyLauncher has the technical higher power though, not the Light Launcher 2. Therefore, all test results are required to use the BeyLauncher.

(Feb. 15, 2016  8:19 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: Well the thing is, that the beylauncher doesn't ever skip in the first energy transfer. Most launchers with winders have the potential to skip and lose power in the transfer from your body to the prongs. Or more directly, the transfer from the winder to the first gear. The string connected directly to the first gear prevents losing power in that transfer. The gears could obviously skip while transferring power from one to the other, or so could the clutch that turns the prongs, but, all other things being equal, I think that there is less potential for power loss in a string launcher vs a launcher with a winder

(Feb. 15, 2016  8:54 AM)StormPyxis Wrote:

(Feb. 15, 2016  8:19 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: Well the thing is, that the beylauncher doesn't ever skip in the first energy transfer. Most launchers with winders have the potential to skip and lose power in the transfer from your body to the prongs. Or more directly, the transfer from the winder to the first gear. The string connected directly to the first gear prevents losing power in that transfer. The gears could obviously skip while transferring power from one to the other, or so could the clutch that turns the prongs, but, all other things being equal, I think that there is less potential for power loss in a string launcher vs a launcher with a winder

So does that make it (beylauncher) immediately better than a winder launcher? There's no denying that a winder launcher has more power behind it but all in all a string launcher seems like a better choice because of all the reasons listed above. I can see a winder being viable, even more usable than a string launcher with some strategies.

(Feb. 15, 2016  4:50 PM)Cake Wrote:

(Feb. 15, 2016  8:54 AM)StormPyxis Wrote:

(Feb. 15, 2016  8:19 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: Well the thing is, that the beylauncher doesn't ever skip in the first energy transfer. Most launchers with winders have the potential to skip and lose power in the transfer from your body to the prongs. Or more directly, the transfer from the winder to the first gear. The string connected directly to the first gear prevents losing power in that transfer. The gears could obviously skip while transferring power from one to the other, or so could the clutch that turns the prongs, but, all other things being equal, I think that there is less potential for power loss in a string launcher vs a launcher with a winder

So does that make it (beylauncher) immediately better than a winder launcher? There's no denying that a winder launcher has more power behind it but all in all a string launcher seems like a better choice because of all the reasons listed above. I can see a winder being viable, even more usable than a string launcher with some strategies.

I know some people prefer LL2s for Attack because launching with a Light Launcher usually makes your launcher hand move a bit, essentially giving you a simpler and easier Sliding Shoot.

Assuming you have a steady supply of fresh ripcords for your LL2 (because boy do they wear out fast), the LL2 is a solid choice, but is harder to control than a Beylauncher, and an experienced Beylauncher user can get equal or higher RPMs than an experienced LL2 user, though it's definitely easier to use the LL2 at first.

The reason you can hit higher RPMs with a Beylauncher is that its "winder" (the string in this case) is longer than the LL2's. The LL2 winder causes the prongs to complete 5 full rotations before it is fully pulled out; at maximum extension, the Beylauncher will have completed 6.5 rotations. So, in theory, the Beylauncher has 1.3x as long to accelerate as the LL2, giving a maximum theoretical speed of about 1.7x as fast as the LL2. In practice, though, the LL2 has a much "denser" winder, I guess you could call it - although it causes only 1.5 less rotations than the Beylauncher's string, it's much shorter than the Beylauncher string is. So, if you're pulling at the same speed, the Light Launcher 2 will launch substantially harder than the Beylauncher will, because those 5 rotations are compressed into half the length of the Beylauncher's 6.5. Instead, pulling with the same force as you would with a LL2 will give you that 1.7x speed, though this is limited by how fast you can move your arm, as you will be pulling at much higher speeds than the LL2 (which offers more resistance). It's also limited by not wanting to destroy your Beylauncher, since you will either have to stop before the string runs out or let go, either of which will reduce your launch speed somewhat.

(Feb. 19, 2016  9:09 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: i'm not sure but i think most new bladers prefer light lqauncher 2 due to it's easy to aim. also LL2 have more friction when pulling ripcord [need more force/stangth] which may make you feel like your bey is spinning faster [as you used more strangth]. but i think beylauncher is gives more RPM then LL2 to me atleast, but it's varied from blader to blader

gembu spoiler (Click to View)

it's quite strange but i can spin bey faster with Light Launcher and NDW. even more then LL2 and Beylauncher

(Feb. 21, 2016  1:04 AM)StormPyxis Wrote:

(Feb. 19, 2016  9:09 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: i'm not sure but i think most new bladers prefer light lqauncher 2 due to it's easy to aim. also LL2 have more friction when pulling ripcord [need more force/stangth] which may make you feel like your bey is spinning faster [as you used more strangth]. but i think beylauncher is gives more RPM then LL2 to me atleast, but it's varied from blader to blader

gembu spoiler (Click to View)

it's quite strange but i can spin bey faster with Light Launcher and NDW. even more then LL2 and Beylauncher

So you can use a regular Light Launcher like the one that comes with Ray Unicorno BB-71 better than a LL2 or Beylauncher, I've never heard of that before, are you using a long winder? I think that's kinda cool.

(Feb. 21, 2016  1:27 AM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote:

(Feb. 21, 2016  1:04 AM)StormPyxis Wrote:

(Feb. 19, 2016  9:09 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: i'm not sure but i think most new bladers prefer light lqauncher 2 due to it's easy to aim. also LL2 have more friction when pulling ripcord [need more force/stangth] which may make you feel like your bey is spinning faster [as you used more strangth]. but i think beylauncher is gives more RPM then LL2 to me atleast, but it's varied from blader to blader

gembu spoiler (Click to View)

it's quite strange but i can spin bey faster with Light Launcher and NDW. even more then LL2 and Beylauncher

So you can use a regular Light Launcher like the one that comes with Ray Unicorno BB-71 better than a LL2 or Beylauncher, I've never heard of that before, are you using a long winder? I think that's kinda cool.

yeah i'm using neo dragoon winder