(Aug. 08, 2013  5:21 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: I had been messing around with a similar combo. Is this just a Balro Balro counter? How does it do against other types?

(Aug. 08, 2013  5:22 AM)Switchblad3r Wrote: Nice tests! format is good as well, but can you tell us setup?
Beylauncher?
Launched first or alternating launches?
Stadium?
Launch technique? (flower/sliding shoot?)
also you must've worn your r2f a good deal with these tests lol

(Aug. 08, 2013  5:39 AM)AZL Wrote: try this gainst phantom, this combo has potential.

(Aug. 08, 2013  5:57 AM)Ingulit Wrote: Hey, this is pretty cool! It is certainly a heavy custom (heavy enough to counteract a lack of a rubber tip, it appears), and I love the thought to use CF to enable it to OS right-spin attackers! If we could get some benchmarks that'd be awesome, and tests against Flash and Wyvang would not go unappreciated

(Aug. 08, 2013  5:59 AM)Tri Wrote: It says you used a ripcord launcher, which of I am not mistaken cannot be used for testing.

This combo seems interesting though, what mode is E230 in?

(Aug. 08, 2013  6:06 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: The Balro Balro combos.

(Aug. 08, 2013  7:12 AM)Kai Hiwatari Wrote: If you can get to them, tests against:

Revizer Revizer BD145 CS
Duo Aquario W145 WD

(Aug. 08, 2013  1:05 PM)Insomniac Wrote: I remember playing with a similar combo (Revizer Dragooon E230GCF, lol) at Beyblade Colosseum during freeplay. I liked the combo's ability to stop most Attackers and out-spin Defense combos not on RDF, but I couldn't get it to out-spin or KO certain Stamina combos like Duo Aquario W145WD, Dragooon combos, or RDF combos.

Sure, the combo is a lot of fun to use against Attack types, but all I could get it to do was out-spin Attack and some Defense types. It can hardly KO anything at all (I couldn't even get Duo/Dragooon B:D out).

Might I suggest you swap out Revizer for a more offensive Chrome Wheel, such as Wyvang, and the Bottom to GCF? Wyvang would probably give it the little KO'ing power it lacks to get Stamina types out of the way, and GCF to increase the combo's speed at which it impacts its opponent? I think that a little more speed and some more attacking power could really improve this combo.

(Aug. 08, 2013  1:48 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: Balro Balro CH145R2F vs. Reviser Dragooon E230CF
Dragooon launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 11/20 (19 OS, 2 KO)
Balro: wins, 9/20 (1 OS, 8 KO)
Reviser Dragooon E230CF win rate: 55%

Ties redone: 4

Wyvang Wyvang W145R2F vs. Reviser Dragooon E230CF
Dragooon launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 12/20 (8 OS, 4 KO)
Wyvang: wins, 8/20 (2 OS, 6 KO)
Reviser Dragooon E230CF win rate: 60%

Ties redone: 5

Bravo Ryukiba! Not quite as high as Dragooon BD145LRF or Girago BD145RF, but nowhere near bad. I've actually been using this for a few months now... guess I was too slow . This is great!
Nice job! I can imagine flash wouldn't even be able to touch this thing.

Wow, are we having a revival of anti-attack or something? XD

EDIT: Woah... just read the OP. :\ Did you stall Balro as fast as you could? I don't know how you got such high win rates... Well, regardless, this thing is still pretty beast.

EDIT #2: Absolutely agree with Insomniac on changing to GCF, but IDK about an offensive wheel :\. If my tests are accurate, a higher recoil wheel might bump its win rates down to 45-50%... but you could go ahead and try.

(Aug. 08, 2013  6:03 AM)ryukiba Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2013  5:57 AM)Ingulit Wrote: Hey, this is pretty cool! It is certainly a heavy custom (heavy enough to counteract a lack of a rubber tip, it appears), and I love the thought to use CF to enable it to OS right-spin attackers! If we could get some benchmarks that'd be awesome, and tests against Flash and Wyvang would not go unappreciated

Thanks benchmark with what though? And yeah I'll do some tests against Flash and Wyvang tomorrow

(Aug. 08, 2013  1:48 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: EDIT #2: Absolutely agree with Insomniac on changing to GCF, but IDK about an offensive wheel :\. If my tests are accurate, a higher recoil wheel might bump its win rates down to 45-50%... but you could go ahead and try.

(Aug. 09, 2013  3:20 PM)Insomniac Wrote: I think Wyvang (or maybe Girago?) would've been ideal, but if you can, please test Balro Dragooon E230CF against a top-tier Right-Spin Stamina combo. I could at least verify it myself later, and try out GCF in CF's stead at the same time.

(Aug. 09, 2013  3:04 PM)Insomniac Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2013  1:48 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: EDIT #2: Absolutely agree with Insomniac on changing to GCF, but IDK about an offensive wheel :\. If my tests are accurate, a higher recoil wheel might bump its win rates down to 45-50%... but you could go ahead and try.

Another Chrome Wheel than Wyvang might work, but I believe you could easily counter Attackers by launching a little more weakly.