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Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 13, 2013 Hey guys! This is mostly to contribute to the sway-defense category of the zero-G tier list that is currently being developed. This is for confirming, organizing, and evaluating the tests that have been done and are being done in the sway-defense category. I used performance tips from each series (Flat, Spike, Ball, and Defense). I used the same 2 combos for all tests, except for switching the sway-defender's performance tip (obviously) I used SA165 for the sway defender. It was used in defense mode. I know it isn't the greatest for sway-defense, but I wanted to give the sway-attacker a significantly higher win rate, so as to compare the results of the different tips more effectively. Here are the tips I am using: B series: MB (metal ball) SB (sarp ball) TB (twin ball) S series: RS (rubber sharp) ES (eternal sharp) CS (coating sharp) MS (metal spike) F series: BSF (blade semi-flat) D series: BWD (big wide defense) tests: Spoiler (Click to View) evaluation: Spoiler (Click to View) I strongly encourage that you guys test these yourselves before posting, and if possible, to verify my results. That would be great! It's good to have more than one person backing up an idea. Hope you guys find this helpful! RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - Thunder Dome - May. 13, 2013 This is an interesting thread. Hopefully some more people will check it out and it will be easier to make a tier list. I agree that MB is probably one of the best for sway defense. I'll try to get some tests up to help out with your results and tests, but I do agree with all of them from previous tests and tournament experience. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - *Ginga* - May. 14, 2013 *Ahem.* Great idea though! RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 14, 2013 (May. 14, 2013 1:43 AM)*Ginga* Wrote: *Ahem.* ooohhh... I've never seen that before! ... This is kinda awkward... Well, I guess we could still use this thread, as a second reference, and once more tests are added on. Do you have any suggestions? I could test CS later. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - ShinobuXD - May. 14, 2013 I also did some tests somewhere. Problem with MB is wear. A worn one is significantly easier to sway than a mint one. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 14, 2013 (May. 14, 2013 2:14 AM)ShinobuXD Wrote: I also did some tests somewhere. Good point. I've never tried with a worn one, but I'll take your word for it. I looked and didn't see any, but apparently there have been some tests for sway-defense. I'll keep testing, though, since it is good to have multiple references and tests when making a tier-list. I'll add some tests later tomorrow probably, but I may not be able to post more this week. My grandparents are coming over for my birthday, so I'll have to do it now. What do you guys want tested? RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - Izhkoort - May. 14, 2013 I think you should still test TB, its a pretty nice tip and would be nice has another purpose than stamina Also could you test SB? RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - ShinobuXD - May. 14, 2013 Could you try RSF please? It would be great to have more confirmation tests of its use. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 14, 2013 I'll do TB, CS, and ES today. Sorry ShinobuXD, I won't be able to do that until Saturday. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - KainHighwind - May. 14, 2013 There are also several comparison tests here that ShinobuXD and I did... http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-BSF-Discussion RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - diblee123 - May. 14, 2013 W2D, I heard it sort of counter sways when it is swayed. Though I have not seen any tests for this, it would be nice to have them. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 14, 2013 (May. 14, 2013 2:44 PM)KainHighwind Wrote: There are also several comparison tests here that ShinobuXD and I did... Alright, Alright! I guess I didn't look hard enough... I was checking thread names I added everyone's tests to the OP. We can just use this as an organized source for sway-defense comparisons, since there is already a thread for sway-attack comparisons. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - KainHighwind - May. 15, 2013 Hahaha....I wasn't taking a shot at you. Just wanted to post those here for reference. Edit: and to remind Shinobu where he did his tests. Lol RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - UGottaCetus - May. 15, 2013 Can you try LF? I think that LF or LRF of a right spin Bey could kindof cancel out the sway because of its opposite movements, but maybe not. If not that, could you do FB or FS? RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - Yuko Ray14 - May. 15, 2013 LF is just essentialy a R2F with the spikes facing to the right so nothing will change. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - LMAO - May. 15, 2013 You mean LRF right ? Also, yeah, I agree, I want to see how FB performs. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - Thunder Dome - May. 15, 2013 Here are some tests Gear Zero G Attack Stadium 3 Segment grip Beylauncher R Extension Grip Rubber Angle compass Killerken always shot first. Gryph^2 SA165 (Normal mode) GF vs Killerken Killerken SA165 W2D Gryph:12 (12 Sway KO) Killerken:8 (8 Sway KO) W2D win Percentage: 40% Detail Spoiler (Click to View) Gryph:6 (6 Sway KO) Killerken:14 (14 Sway KO) RB Win Percentage: 70% Detail Spoiler (Click to View) Gryph: 14 (14 Sway KO) Killerken: 6 (6 Sway KO) PD Win percentage: 30% Detail Spoiler (Click to View) RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 15, 2013 Thanks thunderdome! I don't know if Gryph^2 SA165GF has better sway that Balro Balro SP230GF, so those tests might be a little hard to compare to the others... Could you or someone else test one of the tips that has already been tested vs Balro against gryph so we can see if gryph does better or worse than balro against the same tip? RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - Thunder Dome - May. 15, 2013 Sure. I can have some of those tests later. I'll use BSF with Killerken if thats all right. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - KainHighwind - May. 15, 2013 Speaking of LF (and I do not mean LRF)....I would also like to see some sway defense tip comparison tests vs a sway combo using LF. That is a tip that needs some serious attention in the zero g stadium, try it and you will see why. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - diblee123 - May. 15, 2013 shouldnt LF go faster in left spin than right spin? RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 15, 2013 (May. 15, 2013 11:55 AM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Sure. I can have some of those tests later. I'll use BSF with Killerken if thats all right. That'll be perfect! KainHighwind: really? I'll try it! RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - KainHighwind - May. 16, 2013 diblee123, if it does technically go faster in left spin, then the difference in speed will be hardly noticeable. @theblackdragon, LF's biggest problem has always been that it couldn't hold a flower pattern for long, but that doesn't matter in the zero g stadium. It is still an incredibly fast bottom, and sways very well. From what I remember, it was more controllable than GF, and swayed almost as well. RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - TimeOut - May. 20, 2013 Can you do some tests on B as well, it has some interesting aspects for zero-g RE: Sway defense - performance tip comparison and evaluation - [)ragon - May. 20, 2013 (May. 20, 2013 3:32 PM)Time Wrote: Can you do some tests on B as well, it has some interesting aspects for zero-g I don't think B would have any advantages over MB or SB, but I might be able to try it later. |