MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
So let's get down to business. I'm sure a few of you have thought of this, and it does surprisingly well in today's confusing metagame. The MF-H provides extra weight to lessen the knockback from Basalt R145. Horogium both looks good with Basalt and is slightly unbalanced, so we are placing Horogium on Basalt like
Basalt is very heavy, which lessens recoil (this is extremely important), and the spiral staircase of death creates huge amounts of blunt attack. Its small diameter also pairs well with R145, since Basalt just extends slightly over R145. R145 provides even more weight to the combo to lessen the huge amounts of recoil this combo shall receive. Plus, R145 creates, as we all know, massive smash attack, and to make the combo more unbalanced (more attack power and speed too), we place R145 on Basalt like
RF provides friction and traction for the combo, giving it high attack power and making it more difficult to KO. The RF is in prime condition for a perfect balance between stamina (or, whatever stamina a rubber bottom has) and controlled high-speed attack.
So pretty much, this is an Anti-Attack combo. It also helps that the shape of Basalt makes attacks on it less powerful. This combo has enough power to KO Fang Leone S130RF (into my neck mind you) as it runs out of spin.
So. Time for the tests!
Equipment:
Black TT Attack Stadium/Clear TT Attack Stadium
Beylauncher R Storm Pegasis vers. and Beylauncher L MLD URS vers./Beylauncher L/R UDXS vers.
3-Segment Launcher Grip, Launcher Grip Rubber and Grip Rubber
Sliding Shoot/Banking used for attack types unless noted otherwise
Horogium launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF Lightning L-Drago BD145LRF (Upper mode)
Horogium: 12/20 (5 KO's, 7 OS's)
L-Drago: 8/20 (4 OS's, 4 KO's)
2 draws redone
Horogium WR: 60%
So. It really depended on who was launched first. That bey would lose, whether by KO or OS. Horogium only got the higher percentage because it hit L-Drago just after being launched, then KO'ed it with another attack, then it did a 'final attack' KO when both were almost out of steam. Horogium would lose when it was launched first, and L-Drago would lose when it was launched first. OS's occurred when they could not KO each other, in which case the imbalance of whichever bey was launched first would cause their downfall. In a tournament situation, a battle between these 2 combos could go either way.
Leone launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. Fang Leone S130RF (Counter Mode)
Horogium: 17/20 (12 KO's, 5 OS's)
Leone: 3/20 (3 KO's)
4 draws redone
Horogium WR: 85%
Basalt completely stopped Leone cold. Even when Horogium was launched first, Leone was helpless. When they were unable to knock each other out, the round shape of Basalt allowed it to absorb Fang's attacks, even when Basalt had been launched first and was wobbling like crazy. Fang could only KO Basalt if it got 2 hits on Basalt's major recoil points, and then get wall-saved from the second hit's huge knockback. Sometimes, Horogium even KO'ed Leone when Leone could have won by OS (mentioned earlier).
VariAres launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. VariAres CH120RF (120 Height)
Horogium: 20/20 (15 KO's, 5 OS's)
VariAres: 0/20
2 draws redone
Horogium WR: 100%
What Horogium did to VariAres. This was almost painful to watch. VariAres would come in flying at Horogium who was slightly slower and I'd be thinking 'oh carp', then VariAres would just fly off of Horogium, and most of the time out as well. My reaction to that:  Seriously, even when Horogium was launched first and neither could be knocked out, Basalt's stamina-draining properties played a major part in outspinning VariAres. This battle also made me realize how much spin this combo has at the end of the battle, it just kept going at the end when it looked like it would've fallen over already, and then VariAres would fall over first. Also, I only have one R145, which is why I used the next best option, CH120, instead.
VariAres launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. VariAres CH120RF (145 Height)
Horogium: 19/20 (17 KO's, 2 OS's)
VariAres: 1/20 (1 KO)
3 draws redone
Horogium WR: 95%
VariAres was slightly more productive here, able to smash Horogium around a bit more. Note, only a bit. It was still getting its butt whooped by this combo. The MF-H gave the combo enough weight to stop itself from flying over the Tornado Ridge; when I did comparative results without MF-H, results decreased by 20%. VariAres would get its spin drained by attacking Horogium, and Horogium would often come from behind and throw VariAres over the Tornado Ridge. VariAres managed to get a KO when it flew from behind Horogium after Horogium was banked, and forced Horogium over the Tornado Ridge. Otherwise, it was complete murder as usual.
Escolpio launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
Flash in literally mint condition, only used 5 times before tests, R2F and RF are also in prime condition
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Flash Escolpio S130R2F
Horogium: 15/20 (9 KO's, 6 OS's)
Escolpio: 5/20 (1 OS, 4 KO's)
5 draws redone
Horogium WR: 75%
I don't know guys, I launch Flash well and Horogium's still got it. There were many high-power clashes between the two, but Horogium got wall-saved or, more often, just plain stood its ground better than Flash. Horogium is still the tank in my opinion.
Something interesting I noticed. Around the 17th round or so, when I launched Horogium first and then Flash, Flash moved so fast that it moved the stadium a lot like always. Unlike the usual occasion though, the movement was enough to perfectly throw Horogium out of its flower pattern and into the center, where it stayed unable to move out until it lost all spin. Something like this makes stadium movement an issue to address.
Technically, it should be Horogium winning with only 70%, but I redid that match and Horogium won. I'd like some advice on this please.
Escolpio launched first for 10 rounds, then switched
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Flash Escolpio AD145MF
Horogium: 17/20 (16 KO's, 1 OS)
Escolpio: 3/20 (3 OS's)
1 draw redone
Horogium WR: 85%
Ohohohoho, this was murder. Horogium threw Flash out of that stadium, even when I switched the order of launching. MF is insufficient in stopping Horogium's power. Neither Tornado Stalling nor Banking worked, just straight shooting Horogium flat out worked every time in stopping the MF variant of Flash. Of course, Flash is a powerful MW, but it still has to try against Horogium to win.
Aquario launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Earth Aquario BD145CS
Horogium: 8/20 (8 KO's)
Aquario: 12/20 (12 OS's)
1 draw redone
Horogium WR: 40%
Aquario got wall-saved. A LOT. It was able to hold its ground pretty well, but the wall-saving was the real reason why it won. Basalt could only truly knock out Aquario when they were moving towards each other while Horogium had a lot of energy. Horogium would knock Aquario to the edge on the rubber part of CS a lot and chase it around the stadium, but it couldn't knock it out since both were moving rapidly in the same direction. Then Aquario would just stall Horogium and win. Rather frustrating, but Horogium did better than expected.
Libra launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Libra BD145RS
Horogium: 8/20 (8 KO's)
Libra: 12/20 (12 OS's)
Horogium WR: 40%
Libra could withstand Horogium quite nicely, however, when it stood still or moved towards Horogium while Horogium had a lot of energy in its attack, it would get KO'ed. It got wall-saved quite a bit, but much of the time it could just stall Horogium out.
Kerbecs launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145WD (Boost Mode)
Horogium: 19/20 (19 KO's)
Kerbecs: 1/20 (1 OS)
Horogium WR: 95%
Ow. My chest still hurts from Kerbecs smashing into it. Kerbecs couldn't do anything. Horogium smashed it so hard that it rebounded off walls into the air and out the stadium. Only one time Kerbecs got lucky because it dodged Horogium's attacks.
Kronos launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF Scythe Kronos BD145EDS (Stamina Mode)
Horogium: 17/20 (17 KO's)
Kronos: 3/20 (3 OS's)
Horogium WR: 85%
Same idea. Kronos did slightly better thanks to its PC frame and EDS bottom saving it, but it still got smashed pretty hard, and even destabilized a bit. Kronos didn't get whacked as hard as Kerbecs thanks to the PC frame, but it couldn't take Horogium's attacks. Kronos would get wall-saved a few times and then stall Basalt by knocking it out of the flower pattern.
Orion launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. Phantom Orion B : D (Stamina Mode)
Horogium: 16/20 (16 KO's)
Orion: 4/20 (4 OS's)
Horogium WR: 80%
2 words: Sliding Shoot. Completely destroyed Orion with this. Horogium also pulled off some impressive late game KO's. However, Orion was able to win by getting wall-saved, and letting the recoil of the attack throw Basalt out of the flower pattern and stall it out. Then, it just circled around Basalt when Basalt was in the center, and that was game. However, this thing hit Orion like a truck otherwise, Orion didn't even have a chance to defend.
J o n's testing
Kerbecs launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost mode)
Horogium: 15/20 (3 OS's, 12 KO's)
Kerbecs: 5/20 (4 OS's, 1 KO)
Horogium WR: 75%
Pockyx3's testing
Libra launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF Libra BD145CS
Horogium: 3/20 (3 KO's)
Libra: 17/20 (17 OS's)
Horogium WR: 15%
Kronos launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF Scythe Kronos BD145CS
Horogium: 1/20 (1 KO)
Kronos: 19/20 (19 OS's)
Horogium WR: 5%
Kerbecs launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs (Boost Mode) MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode)
Horogium: 14/20 (14 KO's)
Kerbecs: 6/20 (6 OS's)
Horogium WR: 70%
L-Drago and Horogium alternately shot
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF Lightning L-Drago BD145RF (Upper Mode)
Horogium: 11/20 (8 KO's, 3 OS's)
L-Drago: 9/20 (5 KO's, 4 OS's)
Horogium WR: 55%
Kronos launched first
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs R145RF vs MF Scythe Kronos BD145EDS
Kerbecs: 11/20 (11 KO's)
Kronos: 9/20 (9 OS's)
Kerbecs WR: 55%
Hell Kerbecs launched first
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs R145RF vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
B. Kerbecs: 17/20 (17 KO's)
H. Kerbecs: 3/20 (3 OS's)
B. Kerbecs WR: 85%
gibsonmac's testing
2 bladers in all tests, so both launched at same time.
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF Blitz Unicorno II S130R2F
Horogium: 14/15 (14 KO's)
Unicorno: 1/15 (1 KO)
Horogium WR: 93%
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF VariAres CH120RF
Horogium: 15/15 (15 KO's)
VariAres: 0/15
Horogium WR: 100%
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF Phantom Orion BD145CS
Horogium: 0/15
Orion: 15/15 (15 OS's)
Horogium WR: 0%
Electric's Testing
VariAres in Right Spin
Standard Procedure
Alternate Launches
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF VariAres BD145RF
Horogium: 13/20 (8 KO's, 5 OS's)
VariAres: 7/20 (6 KO's, 1 OS)
Horogium WR: 65%
Raigeko13's testing
Standard procedure
Basalt Aquario launched first
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF Basalt Aquario GB145RS
Horogium: 9/30 (2 OS's, 7 KO's)
Aquario: 21/30 (14 OS's, 7 KO's)
1 draw redone
Horogium WR: 30%
DefStamina88's Testing
BB-10
String Luancher + Grip
Basalt Launched 1st
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF VS MF-H Flash Byxis S130RF
Basalt: 13/20 (12 OS, 1 KO)
Flash: 7/20 (1 OS, 6 KO)
2 draws redone
Basalt WR: 65%
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF VS MF-H Flash Escolpio S130R2F
Basalt: 13/20 (9 OS, 4 KO)
Flash: 7/20 (All KO)
Basalt WR: 65%
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF VS MF-H Flash Escolpio S130MF
Basalt: 14/20 (7 OS, 7 KO)
Flash: 6/20 (1 OS, 5 KO)
1 draw redone
Basalt WR: 70%
Ingulit's Testing
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
Standard Procedure, BB-10, Beylauncher L/R with Suspension
Flash launched first on even launches, Basalt on odd
1. Flash KO
2. Flash KO
3. Flash KO
4. Basalt KO
5. Flash OS
6. Flash OS
7. Flash KO
8. Flash KO
9. Flash KO
10. Basalt KO
11. Basalt KO
12. Basalt KO
13. Basalt KO
14. Basalt KO
15. Tie; Basalt KO
16. Flash OS
17. Basalt KO
18. Basalt OS
19. Basalt KO
20. Flash OS
21. Flash OS
22. Basalt KO
23. Basalt KO
24. Flash OS
25. Basalt KO
26. Basalt KO
27. Flash OS
28. Flash OS
29. Basalt KO
30. Flash KO Basalt Wins: 15 (14 KO, 1 OS)
Flash Wins: 15 (7 KO, 8 OS)
Basalt WR: 50%
Raigeko13's Testing
(Nov. 16, 2011 5:03 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Click arrow for original post with results. LF Stadium
Beylauncher for right spin beys, rubber grip, and grip rubbers
MF Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF Ray Bull CH120WD
Ray launched first
Horogium: 12/20 (10 KO's, 2 OS's)
Bull: 8/20 (1 KO, 7 OS's)
Horogium WR: 60%
Hm, maybe the Italian community could use this. XD
Erm, I only have 1 Basalt, so I can't really do defense testing. I also don't have TH170 and WF yet, so I can't do balance testing. It's much appreciated if someone can back up my results and/or provide their own testing. I'll place it in the OP with their permission. I can be requested for tests as well, provided I have the parts. Enjoy!
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - iBladerSpirit - Aug. 31, 2011
AWesome bro keep up the good work!!!!
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Hov - Aug. 31, 2011
Hey, do you mind if I can post EarthbullAD145SD and HellKerbecsBD145CS test? Other wise, I love this combo >
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Arctic - Aug. 31, 2011
Try it against Earth Bull Bd145 CS =P
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
(Aug. 31, 2011 1:12 AM)® Wrote: Hey, do you mind if I can post EarthbullAD145SD and HellKerbecsBD145CS test? Other wise, I love this combo >
Go ahead. I need more of these tests, and I'm not confident of my Coat Sharps. That goes for the post above too, so I would appreciate vs. CS combo testing.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Arctic - Aug. 31, 2011
I don't have the R145. Anyway, the reason i asked you to test against that is because earth has low recoil. I made a similar combo to yours and it did horribly against Earth paired with the BD145, so I wanted to see if the R145 improved the results against low recoil wheels.
Also what do you mean by your not confident with your coat sharps?
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
The wear on them is iffy. And alright, I'll try with my best one.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 31, 2011
since you don't have 2 Basalt's, do you have earth or libra to take it's place until someone does defense tests.
Basically:
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF-H Libra/Earth Bull BD145CS/RS/RSF
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs MF-H Libra/Earth Bull 230CS
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
I can do the RS testing with Libra or Earth. I try to not use my CS's, they can give biased results, but I can do it if necessary.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Hov - Aug. 31, 2011
I'll post them tomorrow. Its kind of getting late here
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
Erm, I'm in the same time zone as you. But alright. Earth BD145 tests coming up! Libra BD145RS coming up next.
EDIT: OOWWWWWW. MY HEAD DAMMIT. That stupid Earth Aquario combo just had a massive collision with this combo. It dented a stadium wall and rebounded into my FOREHEAD. WTH.
Anyways, here is the tests for Earth BD145 and Libra BD145RS.
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Earth Aquario BD145CS
Horogium: 8/20 (8 KO's)
Aquario: 12/20 (12 OS's)
1 draw redone
Horogium WR: 40%
Aquario got wall-saved. A LOT. It was able to hold its ground pretty well, but the wall-saving was the real reason why it won. Basalt could only truly knock out Aquario when they were moving towards each other while Horogium had a lot of energy. Horogium would knock Aquario to the edge on the rubber part of CS a lot and chase it around the stadium, but it couldn't knock it out since both were moving rapidly in the same direction. Then Aquario would just stall Horogium and win. Rather frustrating, but Horogium did better than expected.
MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Libra BD145RS
Horogium: 8/20 (8 KO's)
Libra: 12/20 (12 OS's)
Horogium WR: 40%
Libra could withstand Horogium quite nicely, however, when it stood still or moved towards Horogium while Horogium had a lot of energy in its attack, it would get KO'ed. It got wall-saved quite a bit, but much of the time it could just stall Horogium out.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - RustyXD - Aug. 31, 2011
I have 2 basalts , but only have a MF-M and MF-L so i'll do testing with those for now , this combo seems like a decent anti meta , although it is not the best against defense.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Shika blade - Aug. 31, 2011
Hehe, i was trying MF-H bassalt aquario r145R2F to wear it a while back. I was pretty suprised a it's smash. Ill do some former testing later, currently enjoying my lunch.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Bluezee - Aug. 31, 2011
The reason why this works is because of the same reason I thought of making recoil defense and Dan's brother made Basalt C145RF although he never posted it like I TOLD HIM TO LOL. This combo really just uses the opposing beyblade's recoil against it. Although Basalt has its unique attributes that people note more than others such as its weight and unbalanced nature, many forget its most important trait which is rebounding recoil from its opponents. As a matter of fact, the only way it works is because of the imbalance and the weight the wheel has to aid this trait otherwise it would be too light and get sent flying along with the opposing beyblade. The more recoil the opposing beyblade has, the better results you will get. That is why Fang was completely killed like that.
For better contact on recoil wheels and to pass by tracks like BD145 easily C145 is a better choice seeing as how the free spinning wings allow you to bypass the track and go directly into the wheel along with pushing it down in the process. However, you made a good choice by adding some more weight. It could help in some ways. I just prefer C145. This is also why I think types need to be classified such as recoil attack, upper, smash, etc. I don't think it is right to classify into one type when they all have different abilities that tend to vary greatly. Just putting combos like this into "Anti-Meta" doesn't really cut it for me.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - ControL_ - Aug. 31, 2011
(Aug. 31, 2011 1:31 PM)Bluezee Wrote: The reason why this works is because of the same reason I thought of making recoil defense and Dan's brother made Basalt C145RF although he never posted it like I TOLD HIM TO LOL. This combo really just uses the opposing beyblade's recoil against it. Although Basalt has its unique attributes that people note more than others such as its weight and unbalanced nature, many forget its most important trait which is rebounding recoil from its opponents. As a matter of fact, the only way it works is because of the imbalance and the weight the wheel has to aid this trait otherwise it would be too light and get sent flying along with the opposing beyblade. The more recoil the opposing beyblade has, the better results you will get. That is why Fang was completely killed like that.
For better contact on recoil wheels and to pass by tracks like BD145 easily C145 is a better choice seeing as how the free spinning wings allow you to bypass the track and go directly into the wheel along with pushing it down in the process. However, you made a good choice by adding some more weight. It could help in some ways. I just prefer C145. This is also why I think types need to be classified such as recoil attack, upper, smash, etc. I don't think it is right to classify into one type when they all have different abilities that tend to vary greatly. Just putting combos like this into "Anti-Meta" doesn't really cut it for me. This has to be my favourite sentence of yours ever. I have been pushing against the categorisng of types when they a vast extent of ability, however blind eyes have been turned.
It's also correct that this works (just like Libra CH120RF did) as the collision of the other bey is being turned against it as Basalt is going at the same speed or even faster.
What this won't cut through is another low collision metal wheel that has grip, say CS.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Aug. 31, 2011
(Aug. 31, 2011 1:31 PM)Bluezee Wrote: The reason why this works is because of the same reason I thought of making recoil defense and Dan's brother made Basalt C145RF although he never posted it like I TOLD HIM TO LOL. This combo really just uses the opposing beyblade's recoil against it. Although Basalt has its unique attributes that people note more than others such as its weight and unbalanced nature, many forget its most important trait which is rebounding recoil from its opponents. As a matter of fact, the only way it works is because of the imbalance and the weight the wheel has to aid this trait otherwise it would be too light and get sent flying along with the opposing beyblade. The more recoil the opposing beyblade has, the better results you will get. That is why Fang was completely killed like that.
For better contact on recoil wheels and to pass by tracks like BD145 easily C145 is a better choice seeing as how the free spinning wings allow you to bypass the track and go directly into the wheel along with pushing it down in the process. However, you made a good choice by adding some more weight. It could help in some ways. I just prefer C145. This is also why I think types need to be classified such as recoil attack, upper, smash, etc. I don't think it is right to classify into one type when they all have different abilities that tend to vary greatly. Just putting combos like this into "Anti-Meta" doesn't really cut it for me.
Hm. I see what you're getting at their by replacing R145 with C145, but then you lose some added attack power that would KO another bey for versatility. Plus, I don't have C145.
And yeah, Control_, that type of combo seems to be the bane of this combo. It cuts through anything that has even a bit of recoil, which is nice.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Sniper - Aug. 31, 2011
I have a question isnt this the same as Basalt BD145 with a fresh CS from hasbro? because hasbro CS's tend to be very aggro straight out of the package
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Hov - Aug. 31, 2011
That's not new. Read around. It'll get to defense mode after the wearing is done. But its like the second mold of CS with more rubber. The hasbro kind
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Arctic - Aug. 31, 2011
(Aug. 31, 2011 1:46 AM)GaHooleone Wrote: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF vs. MF-H Earth Aquario BD145CS
Horogium: 8/20 (8 KO's)
Aquario: 12/20 (12 OS's)
1 draw redone
Horogium WR: 40%
Aquario got wall-saved. A LOT. It was able to hold its ground pretty well, but the wall-saving was the real reason why it won. Basalt could only truly knock out Aquario when they were moving towards each other while Horogium had a lot of energy. Horogium would knock Aquario to the edge on the rubber part of CS a lot and chase it around the stadium, but it couldn't knock it out since both were moving rapidly in the same direction. Then Aquario would just stall Horogium and win. Rather frustrating, but Horogium did better than expected.
So the R145's added recoil helps a lot then... I made this combo using the CH120 instead of the R145 and never got a single win against Earth Bull BD145 CS. Nice Results Also the paragraph under the results helped me a lot with visualizing what was happening, thanks.
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Sep. 01, 2011
Thank you, Arctic. And did you do those tests yet, ®?
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - .:J:. - Sep. 01, 2011
can you try that combo against a bey like basalt cancer 230RS? i want to see what would happen if it's all about recoil
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Ga' - Sep. 01, 2011
(Aug. 31, 2011 1:08 AM)GaHooleone Wrote: Erm, I only have 1 Basalt, so I can't really do defense testing.
Yeah....
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Deikailo - Sep. 01, 2011
How hard are you launching LLDBD145RF?
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - .:J:. - Sep. 01, 2011
i didn't mean just you, i'm sure someone else might have 2?
RE: MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF - Dan - Sep. 01, 2011
It is okay though, this is essentially an anti-meta customization which it's sole purpose is to kill attackers, heck, even some stamina. Going up against defense is essentially useless because these defense/stamina wheels are usually rounded/don't have tons of smash.
Deikailo: Trust me, these results are legit.
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs C145RF mutilated my Lightning LDrago BD145RF with nearly 100% win rate. True counter right thur.
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