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RE: Scythe Discussion - S.D.C - Jul. 28, 2011
(Jul. 28, 2011 12:04 PM)RustyXD Wrote: Post in the EDS discussion ... and don't SPAM by posting the same question twice.Thanks Rusty, I have always wanted to test but only recently got my hands on a TT Attack stadium when I went to Bali on holiday (I got it for $20 paired with an Earth Eagle, sweet
Sdamon Haha I don't think footage is needed , but its great to see you testing mate
). I still don't have a large supply of parts, but enough to do some basic testing on relatively simple combo's. Speaking of simple combo's, I have some more results for Scythe on a low spin track as a defense type. Same conditions as stated before;Spoiler (Click to View)
ScytheKronos100RSF vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Standard Procedure
Scythe Win = 10 (All OS)
LDrago Win = 0
Scythe Win Rate= 100%
ScytheKronos100RSF vs. LightningLDragoSW145RF
Standard Procedure
Scythe Win = 10 (7 OS, 3 SKO)
LDrago Win = 0
Scythe Win Rate= 100%
ScytheKronos100RSF vs. LightningLDrago100MF
Standard Procedure
Scythe Win = 8 (3 OS, 3 SKO, 2 KO)
LDrago Win = 2 (All KO)
Scythe Win Rate = 80%
ScytheKronos100RSF vs. LightningLDrago100RF
Standard Procedure
Scythe Win = 10 (7 OS, 3 KO)
LDrago Win = 0
Scythe Win Rate = 100%
Scythe does it again, I need to test on a less worn RF (this particular one is possibly so worn it affects it's performance). I know you are meant to do 20 rounds, but seriously, when you are getting results like this is there really a need? When I next catch up with RowDog I will do some Hell, BD145 and R2F testing against this combo. But until then, its looking good. I may even use this for my next tourney :\
RE: Scythe Discussion - Bleik - Jul. 29, 2011
Scythe has decent upper smash. At a meet-up I used MF-H Scythe Kerbecs 85RF and beat many Left Spin attack combos like Gravity Perseus D125RF and others like Basalt Cancer GB145MF
RE: Scythe Discussion - H8R - Jul. 29, 2011
(Jul. 29, 2011 8:04 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote: Scythe has decent upper smash. At Bey-Fest (Freeplay) I used MF-H Scythe Kerbecs 85RF and beat many Left Spin attack combos like Gravity Perseus D125RF and others like Basalt Cancer GB145MF
well honestly attack VS attack doesnt prove much,.... testing ????????
RE: Scythe Discussion - Bleik - Jul. 29, 2011
It lifted the combos over the wall! Well it did when I faced BeyJun and he used Basalt Cancer GB145MF
RE: Scythe Discussion - S.D.C - Jul. 30, 2011
Hmmm... Scythe with upper smash? I wouldn't think so but I'll do a few tests if you want
RE: Scythe Discussion - S.D.C - Aug. 02, 2011
Hey guys; sorry I haven't been uploading any tests lately but (now, I am going to have to use the lamest excuse in the book here), my dog ate my beylauncher. He actually did, while I was out he ran into my room, grabbed the launcher and it is now his new favorite toy. I should e get a new one when I go to the shops in the next few days so I will be up and testing again soon.
RE: Scythe Discussion - Kei - Aug. 03, 2011
Finally got around to doing some recorded tests with Scythe:
Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
Alternating Shots
Scythe in Stamina Mode
Both WDs near mint
WDs switched half way through each set
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (170 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (170 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 9 wins (6 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 11 wins (6 KO)
1 draw
Scythe win percentage: 45%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (170 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (195 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 2 wins (1 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 8 wins (3 KO)
Scythe win percentage: 20%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (170 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (220 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 0 wins
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 5 wins
Scythe win percentage: 0%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (195 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (170 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 4 wins (1 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 6 wins (6 KO)
Scythe win percentage: 40%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (220 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (170 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 4 wins (2 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 6 wins (4 KO)
1 draw
Scythe win percentage: 40%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (195 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (220 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 5 wins
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 5 wins (2 KO)
2 draws
Scythe win percentage: 50%
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD (220 Height) vs. MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD (195 Height)
MF-H Scythe Kronos TH170WD: 4 wins (1 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario TH170WD: 6 wins (5 KO)
Scythe win percentage: 40%
Scythe overall win percentage: 37%
Unsurprisingly, Basalt had a higher KO rate when at an equal or lower height to Scythe.
I decided not to re-do KOs because a) They were much too frequent and b) Rather than trying necessarily to prove which has better Stamina, I was going for results which are realistic. That said, I would lean towards saying that Basalt still has superior Stamina by a small margin, and that, it is slightly better at rotating for those important extra few moments once it has toppled over. However, this could very well be reversed in tests done by other people, so I'd be interested to see more tests of Scythe TH170 vs. Basalt TH170.
RE: Scythe Discussion - S.D.C - Aug. 03, 2011
Too bad I don't have a TH170, although I may be getting it in the next few weeks if it comes in my Random Booster Vol. 7 I have ordered (fat chance, but I can hope)
RE: Scythe Discussion - H8R - Aug. 03, 2011
Kei perhaps you could do BD145 VS BD145 tests to prevent KO's.
MF scythe kronos BD145EDS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145EDS??
RE: Scythe Discussion - Kei - Aug. 03, 2011
(Aug. 03, 2011 10:35 AM)H8R Wrote: Kei perhaps you could do BD145 VS BD145 tests to prevent KO's.
MF scythe kronos BD145EDS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145EDS??
I don't have two EDS's, unfortunately. And I don't feel like wearing down my CS's any further either.
RE: Scythe Discussion - Nuff - Aug. 03, 2011
I don't mean to intrude or repeat anything, but I've read on Ga's thread about MF-H Scythe Kronos 90CS, and it seems to have good results against BD145's and Basalt 230's. I apologize for not linking it, but I don't know how to do that on an iPod
RE: Scythe Discussion - H8R - Aug. 03, 2011
(Aug. 03, 2011 5:28 PM)Kei Wrote:(Aug. 03, 2011 10:35 AM)H8R Wrote: Kei perhaps you could do BD145 VS BD145 tests to prevent KO's.
MF scythe kronos BD145EDS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145EDS??
I don't have two EDS's, unfortunately. And I don't feel like wearing down my CS's any further either.
I thought as much but I didnt mention CS as EDS VS CS wouldn't make it fair at all!
I
got CS VS CS DONE
STANDARD PROCEDURES
CS's both mint
MF scythe kronos BD145CS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS:
SK:13 (ALL OS's)
BK:7 (3 OS's 4KO's)
65% not bad at the end of the day Scythes pure stamina got the better of Basalt Although Basalt's aggressive movement usually moved Scythe enough to KO it.
Basalt also had some luck to Knock scythe off balance and cause it to scrape so EDS is the better option.
RE: Scythe Discussion - Jaygrazer - Aug. 08, 2011
Vari Ares D
Left Flat vs Scythe Lacerta D125HFNow I know Ill whip some newbies.
RE: Scythe Discussion - S.D.C - Aug. 09, 2011
That is a hasbro stadium and not a proper BB-10, so that test belongs in the Hasbro Stadium Testing thread. Why Lacerta? Use Bull and the such. Hf is an outdated attack tip, as is flat. I good test would be
Vari Ares 90/100RF vs. ScytheBull90/100RS or
Vari Area BD145FR vs ScytheBull90/100RS
Too bad I don't have a Vari Ares
RE: Scythe Discussion - RLeoneGT - Aug. 12, 2011
I use MF-M Scythe Kerbecs BD145CS and It beats MF- H Basalt Bull 230CS, Hell Kerbecs BD145WD, the lightning tank (with an RF not LRF) and a bunch of other beys
I will do some official tests with scythe on BD145
It is quite powerful on BD145 and has potential
RE: Scythe Discussion - ControL_ - Aug. 12, 2011
(Aug. 12, 2011 9:12 PM)RLeoneGT Wrote: I use MF-M Scythe Kerbecs BD145CS and It beats MF- H Basalt Bull 230CS, Hell Kerbecs BD145WD, the lightning tank (with an RF not LRF) and a bunch of other beysThe phrase lightning tank no longer exists.
I will do some official tests with scythe on BD145
It is quite powerful on BD145 and has potential
Please use variations of MF Lightning L-Drago BD145LRF or (MF)LLDBD145LRF
RE: Scythe Discussion - RustyXD - Aug. 13, 2011
Scythe seems to do OK as an Anti-Meta
MF-H Scythe Kronos F : D VS Beat Lynx BD145RF
Scythe Kronos: 10 (ALL OS)
Beat Lynx : 10 (All KO)
MF-H Scythe Kronos F : D VS Big Bang Pegasus 230RF
Scythe Kronos : 13 (6 KO , 7OS)
BBP: 7 (All KO)
RE: Scythe Discussion - Shabalabadoo - Aug. 13, 2011
Hmm, you used F:D for an anti attack meta?
RE: Scythe Discussion - RustyXD - Aug. 13, 2011
Yeah I did , It seems to work well for me , I prefer it over RF. There are a few Anti-Meta's that use F: D such as Gravity Perseus F : D.
RE: Scythe Discussion - Sniper - Aug. 13, 2011
(Aug. 13, 2011 5:16 AM)RustyXD Wrote: Yeah I did , It seems to work well for me , I prefer it over RF. There are a few Anti-Meta's that use F: D such as Gravity Perseus F : D.
its really good Gravity Perseus F:D is known for anti meta in the Italian metagame when BBP came out
RE: Scythe Discussion - Ga' - Aug. 21, 2011
I do believe that the better combo is Beat Eagle 85RF or Beat Lynx GB145RF, Rusty.
And I assume that BBP was in Upper Mode since it's on 230?
RE: Scythe Discussion - RustyXD - Aug. 21, 2011
(Aug. 21, 2011 2:44 PM)GaHooleone Wrote: I do believe that the better combo is Beat Eagle 85RF or Beat Lynx GB145RF, Rusty.
And I assume that BBP was in Upper Mode since it's on 230?
Yeah , but BD145 is still a good choice it is probably on par with GB145. Yes upper.
RE: Scythe Discussion - BeybladeStation - Aug. 21, 2011
MF-H Scythe Horogium [Stamina] D
[WB] VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario GB145CSStandard Procedure
BeyLauncher
BB-10
Scythe: 60% [ALL OS]
Basalt: 40% [ALL KO]
RE: Scythe Discussion - H8R - Aug. 21, 2011
(Aug. 21, 2011 11:08 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: MF-H Scythe Horogium [Stamina] DWhat staidum????
Scythe: 60% [ALL OS]
Basalt: 40% [ALL KO]
RE: Scythe Discussion - BeybladeStation - Aug. 21, 2011
You really think i would post up results in a Hasbro Stadium ---.