(May. 24, 2011  12:07 AM)Callum6939 Wrote: Interesting, but im sure LTshould get more, but that's opinion, nice testing

(May. 24, 2011  12:05 AM)GaHooleone Wrote: For everyone's clarification, FB is Divine Chimera's bottom. And finally, a use for this thing! Could you test this against Pegasis Counter?

(May. 24, 2011  12:24 AM)® Wrote: I know what u mean ;]. Same thing from H145. AND finally! A use for FB. Its like the plastic version of CS right?

(May. 24, 2011  12:32 AM)shotz Wrote: wats fb and how do u obtain it

(May. 24, 2011  12:05 AM)GaHooleone Wrote: For everyone's clarification, FB is Divine Chimera's bottom. And finally, a use for this thing! Could you test this against Pegasis Counter?

(May. 24, 2011  1:29 AM)Bluezee Wrote: I guess it's a good thing I got Fang and Chimera last week. With that said, I know these combos do much better than they are seen here. 3 things wrong with this.
1.You used sliding shoot rather than banking with LT. In the thread, it clearly states that you have to use banking against lower tracks.
2. You didn't say anything about how hard MM was shot. That makes a seriously big difference.
3. When you say you are using LT, what is the actual combo you are using? Like parts wise? Also, which version of Time Rook are you using?

Here are my tests.

LT (Banking at 100%)vs. CC
LT: 14/20 (11 KO 3OS)
CC: 6/20(6 OS)

Knocking this out was like know out that Defending Hero combo...all LT needs is one solid hit and its pretty much over for the most part.

MM (CH145 height at 20% Banking) vs. CC
MM: 13/20 (6KOS 7OS)
CC: 7/20(6KO 1OS)
This one was quite rough with so many ties but it was worth it. I like CC. I love FB. It's very easy to master and use. I got XF down to a science now. CC is good but MM just takes the cake.

TR(MF version 100% Tornado stall) vs. CC
TR:17/20(16OS 1KO)
CC:3/20 (2KO 1OS)
So yeah..OS all over the place..FB couldnt keep up at all so I really dont see how it was ever catching up to XF.

CC is nice and it is indeed good. However, MM, LT, and TR don't lose like that.
Also, if CC is "running" so much from FB, its only going around near the tornado ridge....simply tornado stalling LT would get it ran over.

(May. 24, 2011  1:34 AM)Mr. N Wrote: Why Lynx out of all CWs? I read through the OP, and I couldn't see the explanation for Lynx. Sorry if I missed it. Also, adding a Metal Face could help a bit with the KOs.

(May. 24, 2011  1:44 AM)Deikailo Wrote: Because I like cats.

(May. 24, 2011  1:50 AM)Mr. N Wrote:

(May. 24, 2011  1:44 AM)Deikailo Wrote: Because I like cats.

That's it? Do you think a MF would work?

(May. 24, 2011  2:01 AM)Bluezee Wrote: First, if you're using Lightning S130R2F, thats not LT. I got the sarcasm though, it was cute lol. However, just because you have a collection does not mean you use those parts correctly. Also, I am pretty sure sliding shoot was done. Had banking been done, you would have gotten better results. But you know what, you didn't indicate so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Secondly, FB is NOT faster than XF. I never once said it was not fast. Read please. Also, I did not say that I shot CC with the intent of tornado stalling against ANY of those combos. I just stated what could easily be done to easily handle the situation.

Also, I use FB quite often. It is actually my second favorite tip after having it for just a week next to LRF. Therefore, I use it VERY often. I used it for 3+ hours yesterday the WHOLE time with Vulcan 85FB for team practice. I am well aware of what it can and can not do and I KNOW it can not catch up to XF like that unless you shot XF so softly that it was barely spinning and had the spin of a traditional plastic F tip.

Also, FB does not have 3 modes. Don't confuse people like that. It is a Flat Ball bottom. It is as wide as WB meaning it will carry WB's properties and it will be able to be used in a sliding shoot fashion and it can create a decent flower pattern or it can sit still. It either moves or it doesn't so basically, you are either using the Ball or the Flat.

(May. 24, 2011  2:10 AM)Deikailo Wrote:

(May. 24, 2011  2:01 AM)Bluezee Wrote: First, if you're using Lightning S130R2F, thats not LT. I got the sarcasm though, it was cute lol. However, just because you have a collection does not mean you use those parts correctly. Also, I am pretty sure sliding shoot was done. Had banking been done, you would have gotten better results. But you know what, you didn't indicate so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Secondly, FB is NOT faster than XF. I never once said it was not fast. Read please. Also, I did not say that I shot CC with the intent of tornado stalling against ANY of those combos. I just stated what could easily be done to easily handle the situation.

Also, I use FB quite often. It is actually my second favorite tip after having it for just a week next to LRF. Therefore, I use it VERY often. I used it for 3+ hours yesterday the WHOLE time with Vulcan 85FB for team practice. I am well aware of what it can and can not do and I KNOW it can not catch up to XF like that unless you shot XF so softly that it was barely spinning and had the spin of a traditional plastic F tip.

Also, FB does not have 3 modes. Don't confuse people like that. It is a Flat Ball bottom. It is as wide as WB meaning it will carry WB's properties and it will be able to be used in a sliding shoot fashion and it can create a decent flower pattern or it can sit still. It either moves or it doesn't so basically, you are either using the Ball or the Flat.

I actually never use sliding shoot because tbh, it skews test results. You know me, I naturally aim for beys.

If you say FB isn't faster than XF, then I guess I'm a liar because you say so. Just like people said you can't make WD move like a mild attacker, right? That was a lie, too?

(May. 24, 2011  2:20 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: Wow, I like this pretty much. I wish I could test it, but I have no Lynx CW nor an FB, Fang comin' in soon?

BD145 Versus S130 will actually makes a huge difference. Thought that is still VERY impressive. Heights like those are heard to beat. Though, that doesn't mean BD145 is king. Remember Lightning Rod? That thing was a motorcycle rubber shaven. You should seriously try this: MF LLD SW145RF VS. Complete Counter. I really like the use of FB here. Sliding was used on XF? That's great, it's hard to control the weight without it [SS]. I love these tests Deikailo, keep them up! I seriously think that if you'd put an MF and replace 100 with CH120, then there could be some better hits. I realize the KO factor here too, I didn't realize FB as that hardcore [ATK].

Thanks Deikailo!

EDIT: Naturally aiming? Hmm.... I think thats possibly why MM lost. Though, honestly, Deikailo, you rock for actually getting some great results on LT. I truly think that LT could knock out CC, but 65% sounds just perfect!

Thanks for the tests, Deikailo!

(May. 24, 2011  2:12 AM)Bluezee Wrote: I wouldn't suggest using that comparison. I had video, a tournament and witnesses to show for that one.

(May. 24, 2011  2:55 AM)GaHooleone Wrote: A plus to this, from what I see in the video, is so long as you launch it on the flat side so it can attack, this thing is very fast, but controlled.