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Final Survive Discussion - Mr. N - May. 07, 2011
OK, so my BB-108 arrived today, and I have decided to do a bit of testing with F:S, as I don't recall anyone testing it. I didn't have time to test MLD, so I'll do that later.
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Like I said, I don't have a lot of time. I will do tests with MLD and possibly Pegasis later. Please post your requests if you want to.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Gen SimpL - May. 07, 2011
both combos got only great results on 230 combos (probably only due to the fact, that its height is 145 ish)
u should maybe try this with Flame Cancer F:S , it may become good in destabilizing (but, doesnt destabilizers need to be low :( )
anyway, thanks for the tests
EDIT: ill see if i can do tests once i get my BB:107 and BB-108, due to i have so much time on my hands
RE: Final Survive Discussion - GaleForce - May. 07, 2011
Destabilizers are best when they are low, but it still works when they are 145
RE: Final Survive Discussion - The Ryuga - May. 07, 2011
F;S as a destabilizer might just work, but 145ish height might lower its power.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Mr. N - May. 07, 2011
You know, you can check the "Disable Smilies" thingy so you don't have to use a semi-colon or something like that.
Anyways, I just some quick tests on Pegasis, and it couldn't even win once against MF-H Basalt Aquario 100CS...
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Ultra - May. 07, 2011
Of course it won't win. Pegasis doesn't do well against rubber defence combos.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - OkiBlaze - May. 07, 2011
Hm, how many rounds did you do? I can see the percentages, but that doesn't necessarily tell us how many rounds were made.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Mr. N - May. 07, 2011
(May. 07, 2011 3:35 PM)OkiBlaze Wrote: Hm, how many rounds did you do? I can see the percentages, but that doesn't necessarily tell us how many rounds were made.
I did ten rounds. Should I do 20?
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Ultra - May. 07, 2011
The more rounds the better.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - th!nk - May. 08, 2011
I think the new standard is 20 rounds.
I haven't had time to read this fully (doing an essay for uni), but the main weakness is the horrific stability of the Sharp tip, right? Do you think that after a lot of uses, if it become a bit more dull/worn, it might have better stability and therefore be properly useable?
Also, simple way of writing F: S is to put a space in it, like me
That way, you can keep using smileys, because smileys are srs business 
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Janstarblast - May. 08, 2011
@th!nk- Of course the stability would be improved if it wears down. But, it would also lose that final 'survival' ability. I mean it will considerably lose Stamina.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Mr. N - May. 08, 2011
If only it was HF to SD or something like that...
If F:S doesn't KO when it's in HF mode, it's bound to lose, unless it's against 230. The F:S combo gets under 230 and pushes it to the TR and it circles around it at a very steep angle, and eventually Basalt will touch the floor and lose all its spin while S spins in the center.
Janstarblast If it was worn down, Stamina won't be a big issue because at the end, since you will either have knocked 230 off balance or wasted most of BD145's Stamina. Plus, Meteo L-Drago could save the day at the end. Correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - th!nk - May. 08, 2011
(May. 08, 2011 1:42 PM)Janstarblast Wrote: @th!nk- Of course the stability would be improved if it wears down. But, it would also lose that final 'survival' ability. I mean it will considerably lose Stamina.
The S tip has horrible stamina though, due to the poor stability, so an increase in stability might actually increase it's stamina, or at least it's use in spin stealing.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - Janstarblast - May. 09, 2011
Yup, sorry, I was considering solo spin-time here
. My bad! Well, I know I am expecting too much, but only if F: S was HF to CS....
RE: Final Survive Discussion - unco sam - May. 18, 2011
ok better than i expected but F/S still horrible but the ryuga is right it could work as a destableizer.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - omegazero - May. 18, 2011
wow i thought this would do kinda good but those are low results.im thinking that the change from hf to s is what messes it up.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - DrAnZeRxMsUv - May. 18, 2011
I think the F : S is awesome. It is just like the HF/S Bottom except easier to obtain and automatic
RE: Final Survive Discussion - unco sam - May. 19, 2011
how could you think its good what if it doesn't change when you want it to.
RE: Final Survive Discussion - th!nk - May. 19, 2011
Because it generally does change at a reasonable time, unlike HF/S which doesn't change at all...?
It's not a great part, but it's cool enough.