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Rock as an attack wheel (post your Rock results here, we don't need 8 new threads) - Mc Frown - Aug. 19, 2010
VIDEO
MF Rock Leone CH120RF is a "recoil attacker", something many people have been messing with for a while, though never seriously. I've had success taking heavy wheels with minor recoil and slapping them on MF CH120RF
(MF CH120RF makes so many things good/decent) The thought is that a heavy wheel with mild recoil problems can use it's mild attack power to full effect on RF, while RF also somewhat negates the recoil by gripping the stadium after the hit. Rock also means it has the stamina to outspin many other RF based attack combos.
Equipment:
MFB Attack Stadium
Hasbro Grip + Beylauncher
All Hasbro Parts (Sans Earth and WD)
Earth Mold 2
Rock is 6 cylinder mold
Banking with Rock
RF is pretty new
Procedure:
Defense types launched at ~80% power
Rock Leone always shot second
Results vs. MF Earth Bull C145WB
9-1
Rock Leone: 9 KO's
Earth Bull: 1 KO
Results vs. Flame Bull 145WD
9-1
Rock Leone: 9 KO's
Flame Bull: 1 OS
As you can see, the results (though testing was not extensive) are pretty good.
I'm sure Counter would be better.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Pyro - Aug. 19, 2010
I'll be sure to test this out :3
I've actually gotten pretty far in a tournament using Rock.
For some reason it had almost no recoil.
I don't know if it was because it was because it was using 100 and B as a track, and tip.
Or something else.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Dan - Aug. 19, 2010
Looks like it could be an untapped potential.
I should really look into this.
RE: Rock's potential use. - souless1234 - Aug. 19, 2010
Nice results.
Try with H145 as a sort of luck recoil attacker?
RE: Rock's potential use. - Elmo - Aug. 19, 2010
I know Leone is a good metal wheel for this. That being said, if you want a HWS custom, wouldn't Counter be a better choice?
my bad, I didn't see that last sentence
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 19, 2010
Yeah, I've had fantastic results with MF Leone 145RF, so I thought I'd try out a rock variant because it has better stamina and less recoil.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Ochibi - Aug. 19, 2010
Well i definitely have thought that it has potential because of its heavy weight but haven't been able to test it so yea good job. Those are some interesting results.
RE: Rock's potential use. - TenshouTsubasa - Aug. 19, 2010
better results if using Counter... I'll try that later.
also, a 100/105 makes more better results when facing a bey DOES NOT use C145 track,
as rock is like a mushroom that lifts up the oppenent and the leone smashes the oppenent away.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 19, 2010
I prefer CH120, I've tried both.
And C145 is trash.
RE: Rock's potential use. - adiennika24 - Aug. 19, 2010
Ok here is one thing though if 120 is running so well
why not use the 100
even when you math it out a def blade lower to the ground has a better chance of low recoil
also since it is lower to the ground you get less friction, i can prove to you by a parabola that you need either a low bey to lessen recoil and keep rotation or a high stanind bet like 145 ot out endure another def bey
RE: Rock's potential use. - Diamond - Aug. 19, 2010
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:21 PM)adiennika24 Wrote: Ok here is one thing though if 120 is running so wellDid you even read the first post of this thread...
why not use the 100
even when you math it out a def blade lower to the ground has a better chance of low recoil
also since it is lower to the ground you get less friction, i can prove to you by a parabola that you need either a low bey to lessen recoil and keep rotation or a high stanind bet like 145 ot out endure another def bey
Mc Frown is trying to make an Attack combo, not Defense.
Also, you should never expect a Beyblade with RF to have high Stamina.
RE: Rock's potential use. - adiennika24 - Aug. 19, 2010
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:26 PM)Diamond Wrote: Did you even read the first post of this thread...
Mc Frown is trying to make an Attack combo, not Defense.
Also, you should never expect a Beyblade with RF to have high Stamina.
yes but you can add high stamina to anyblade depending on launch and spin track
and i kno he wants a atck type just remember you can make any bey into anytype by way of launching and tip
btw plz dont flame
RE: Rock's potential use. - Diamond - Aug. 19, 2010
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:33 PM)adiennika24 Wrote: yes but you can add high stamina to anyblade depending on launch and spin trackRF is rubber. Rubber has high friction, and thus, will not have good stamina no matter what launching method you use or what Metal Wheel, Clear Wheel or Track you use.
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:33 PM)adiennika24 Wrote: and i kno he wants a atck type just remember you can make any bey into anytype by way of launching and tipIf you are changing the type of the Beyblade, you are changing the whole point of the combo. :\
RE: Rock's potential use. - adiennika24 - Aug. 19, 2010
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:38 PM)Diamond Wrote: If you are changing the type of the Beyblade, you are changing the whole point of the combo. :\
hmm alot of times people need to remember you may make a great combo if you change its type
also its say to keep open minded in forums
just think like this
a heavy low reciol bal between atk/def tht can knock out stamina beys while out spinning def and atk
RE: Rock's potential use. - TheLVJ - Aug. 19, 2010
(Aug. 19, 2010 3:42 PM)adiennika24 Wrote: hmm alot of times people need to remember you may make a great combo if you change its type
also its say to keep open minded in forums
just think like this
a heavy low reciol bal between atk/def tht can knock out stamina beys while out spinning def and atk
This may be how you'd hope it would work, but your logic behind somehow automatically changing types and altered performance is highly flawed.
Unless you have the experience and knowledge members have accumulated, it's best to keep these ludicrous ideals to yourself.
RE: Rock's potential use. - loyd87 - Aug. 19, 2010
can you test it with the rock 3 cylinder mold to see if it got a different result please?!
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 19, 2010
I don't own one, though I'd assume it would preform fine, although not AS well.
adiennika24, please refrain from posting here any further.
RE: Rock's potential use. - OkiBlaze - Aug. 20, 2010
Hmm, I've also seen some moderate results with this...
I would test with counter, but I have yet to get a CH120...
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 20, 2010
You could use D125, T125, 120 etc.
This combo sucks at 145. When I get a 120 track I'm switching.
RE: Rock's potential use. - OkiBlaze - Aug. 20, 2010
Wait...use x125 for Counter or Rock?
I thought Counter was best with a high track, as is Leone?
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 20, 2010
No idea as I've never used counter, but I always use Rock at 120 height.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Marco - Aug. 20, 2010
(Aug. 20, 2010 1:45 AM)OkiBlaze Wrote: Wait...use x125 for Counter or Rock?
I thought Counter was best with a high track, as is Leone?
Leone is actually awesome with a low track as well so I imagine counter would follow suit. Results from the Pre-Hws Leone testing thread.
MF Leone 100RF vs MF Earth Bull C145WB (Click to Hide)
Leone: 18
Earth: 2
Double KO: 0
Details (Click to View)
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 20, 2010
MF Leone 145RF preforms MUCH better for me.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Dan - Aug. 20, 2010
Man, I really must buy an attack stadium. Clear wheels look even better on it.
RE: Rock's potential use. - Mc Frown - Aug. 20, 2010
I have no idea how it turned from green into blue on the video, lol.