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RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - TylerPT - Mar. 28, 2011
The red metallic string launcher is actually longer than the orange string launcher and METEO L-DRAGO'S beylauncher L (so 1 cm longer than lightning l-drago's beylauncher L)
I will upload the vid eventually
BTW, the rev up launcher is stronger than the string launcher, but i dont want to buy it since it breaks SO EASILY..
my friend has it, i borrowed it and tested it. When u press the button, it weakens the bey. When u pull it like a beylauncher, its powerful.
What i do is, on 3, i pull soft, on 2 a bit harder, on 1, a bit harder and on GO SHOOT I GIVE IT A POWERFUL LAUNCH!
If it doesn't break easily, it would be better than the beylauncher!
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - BeyPhilosopher - Mar. 28, 2011
Thanks for the contribution, but most of what you've said is already known.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Vongola-Hibari - Mar. 29, 2011
The rev-up launcher is bad. It has a lot of power, but you can't count it. Why Hasbro, why......
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - BeyPhilosopher - Mar. 29, 2011
Isn't the rev-up launcher game breaking good but fragile? Or am I wrong.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Vongola-Hibari - Mar. 29, 2011
(Mar. 29, 2011 7:37 PM)Bey Philosopher Wrote: Isn't the rev-up launcher game breaking good but fragile? Or am I wrong.
Game breaking good? Game breaking good my a$$. It's not fragile at all, it's just bad. I wouldn't get it again even if it came in an different color.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - PattyCakeChamp! - Mar. 29, 2011
(Mar. 29, 2011 8:17 PM)Vongola-Hibari Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 7:37 PM)Bey Philosopher Wrote: Isn't the rev-up launcher game breaking good but fragile? Or am I wrong.
Game breaking good? Game breaking good my a$$. It's not fragile at all, it's just bad. I wouldn't get it again even if it came in an different color.
It is if you use it like a regular beylauncher
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Vongola-Hibari - Mar. 29, 2011
(Mar. 29, 2011 8:21 PM)MaStErDrAcIeL97 Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 8:17 PM)Vongola-Hibari Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 7:37 PM)Bey Philosopher Wrote: Isn't the rev-up launcher game breaking good but fragile? Or am I wrong.
Game breaking good? Game breaking good my a$$. It's not fragile at all, it's just bad. I wouldn't get it again even if it came in an different color.
It is if you use it like a regular beylauncher
I pull beylaunchers hard. If I pull the Rev-up launcher hard, then beyblade won't come off the launcher.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - ControL_ - Mar. 29, 2011
Basically a beylauncher pull with the Rev-Up works well for the first 20 or so pulls (varies to a large extent) when new, then breaks.
Third rev-up which has broken all with the same issue. It's really quite a fuss, and if you complain to Hasbro (considering and reconsidering) it's not exactly fair on them. You are using the rev-up differently to how you should leaving it to break.
Very powerful when it does work, it's like a limited use item.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Gearfried97 - Mar. 29, 2011
How does it break? Is it just the handle, or is it the internal mechanisms?
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - BladeStorm - Mar. 29, 2011
(Mar. 29, 2011 10:09 PM)Gearfried97 Wrote: How does it break? Is it just the handle, or is it the internal mechanisms?
The latter. I think there are problems with the gears; which makes it unable to output energy for the same pull on the string. Before the breakage, there is lots of resistance felt when pulling the string - a lot of energy is output: more than the Beylauncher. After the breakage, there is resistence felt similar to a Beylauncher with often weaker launchers than the Beylauncher.
I think the gear ratio must have changed with the breakage; plastics and HMS have more efficient gear ratios than MFB, meaning more revolutions per teeth. The rev-up somehow (intermediate 3rd gear) increases the efficiency by producing more revolutions per teeth. However,the breakage seems the nullify the effect of intermediate 3rd gear and it produces less revolutions per teeth.
I noticed the axle connected to the intermediate 3rd gear sliding back and forth into a state, where it links both the main 2 gears, completing the system. I think the breakage causes the intermediate 3rd gear to release too soon from the main gears, not giving it enough time for the stringed gear to pull the prong gears via the intermediate gear.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - BillyBlast - Mar. 29, 2011
the rev up launcher brakes easy and its the gear it fall out of loop when half the pointy stuff on it brakes and then the gears dont hit not letting the top gear spin to produce a shot the top gives the power it is what moves the prongs the tiny gear is important i poped my first one open and the gear fell out it is still powerful as long as you have the complete timing right u press the button hard as soon as the string is out fully if you did it right then you wont hear the gears jam to a brake
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - iVtechboyinpa - Mar. 30, 2011
So based on what BladeStorm said, if the "intermediate 3rd gear" is stopping the launcher from releasing the bey efficiently (if that's what you're trying to say), then can't the problem be fixe by taking that third gear out? Think of it: a normal Beylauncher has 2 gears; one for the string and another for the prongs. The Rev-Up launcher has 3 gears; the two from above and one more connecting those two. Let's say of we took a regular Beylauncher casing and put it in; would it work? Because the two gears would be directly connected instead of being indirectly connected by a 3rd gear, thus giving the string enough time to pull the prongs.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Zaneago - Mar. 30, 2011
Well i looked at akirasdaddy and he had one of thoughs launcher! The Rev launcher it WAS but some of them look like they already came out like the metalic launcher is already in the USA i got one of them they are blood red colour!
Also the Wind and Shoot launcher really 2011 it is already out i think this thread is worthless if the USA already has it then Japan sure should!
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - LeonTempest - Mar. 31, 2011
(Mar. 29, 2011 8:28 PM)Vongola-Hibari Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 8:21 PM)MaStErDrAcIeL97 Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 8:17 PM)Vongola-Hibari Wrote:(Mar. 29, 2011 7:37 PM)Bey Philosopher Wrote: Isn't the rev-up launcher game breaking good but fragile? Or am I wrong.
Game breaking good? Game breaking good my a$$. It's not fragile at all, it's just bad. I wouldn't get it again even if it came in an different color.
It is if you use it like a regular beylauncher
I pull beylaunchers hard. If I pull the Rev-up launcher hard, then beyblade won't come off the launcher.
Your opinion certantly confuses me. Last time i looked, the Rev Up launcher has signifigantly more power than the string/beylauncher. Yes it can be fragile but preformance wise it dominates. Just because you may/may not have had a bad experience with it doesn't mean it is bad. Also, this isnt a bey launcher, airgo you cannot use it like a Beylauncher. A fact is a fact: While the Rev Up Launcher is easily breakable when put under high stress, in terms of raw power, it is currently the best launcher to use
not to say string launcher isn't good though...plus string launcher is definatly more dependable.
(Mar. 30, 2011 9:15 PM)LEVI-Z Wrote: Well i looked at akirasdaddy and he had one of thoughs launcher! The Rev launcher it WAS but some of them look like they alreadwy came out like the metalic launcher is already in the USA i got one of them they are blood red colour!
Also the Wind and Shoot launcher really 2011 it is already out i think this thread is worthless if the USA already has it then Japan sure should!
if it is red, then you got the 2011 Hasbro String Launcher, not a rev up launcher.
Wind and Shoot is carp, and to my knowlage, TT doesnt sell it, only Hasbro.
Rev Up is exclusivly a Hasbro product and is currently not being sold or produced by TT.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Kai-V - Mar. 31, 2011
There is no such product as "Rev and Shoot" though.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - LeonTempest - Apr. 01, 2011
ment rev up. my bad. ill correct the post.
i blame hasbro for even releasing wind and shoot in the 1st place...piece of garbage...
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Otsu - Apr. 01, 2011
i posted a picture of how the rev-up launcher broke for me if you just check the page before. . . .
the launcher is still usable though, just gets some small skippage
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - BillyBlast - Apr. 01, 2011
(Mar. 30, 2011 8:53 PM)SPegasis Master Wrote: So based on what BladeStorm said, if the "intermediate 3rd gear" is stopping the launcher from releasing the bey efficiently (if that's what you're trying to say), then can't the problem be fixe by taking that third gear out? Think of it: a normal Beylauncher has 2 gears; one for the string and another for the prongs. The Rev-Up launcher has 3 gears; the two from above and one more connecting those two. Let's say of we took a regular Beylauncher casing and put it in; would it work? Because the two gears would be directly connected instead of being indirectly connected by a 3rd gear, thus giving the string enough time to pull the prongs.
well the launcher is bigger meanuing more space also the extra gear is the fragile one that gives it the extra boost and is the connecter to the prongs spin device to the string and top part devie sorry if im wrong i never took apart a beylauncher before without the 3rd gear it wont connect and if it did then barly a launch and if its lose unstraight weak launch
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - iVtechboyinpa - Apr. 01, 2011
The third gear gives it the power? I thought it was because the string is longer and the silver winding thingy is longer too, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Beylon - Apr. 01, 2011
The anti-breaking trick is to release all tension on the string once it reaches its full length. It's that release of tension that makes the 3rd gear jam and release the bey in one movement anyway - if you maintain tension beyond that point, the jammed gear might break as described. You've got to be strong to do this and maintain control without breaking the launcher.
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Janstarblast - Apr. 01, 2011
Beylon, So its something very tough to do, I suppose..... Is it SO fragile? Or it will have some better molds?
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - LeonTempest - Apr. 01, 2011
Well this is one possibility in regards to innovation
Later on this year, or next year entirly, Hasbro could release a new mold for the Rev Up launcher. Logic would suggest that this mold would contain gears made of a heavier and more durable materials. The only draw back would be a that the product would end up costing a bit more. (personally I wouldn't mind that so much if I was going to receive a higher quality product, as long as the price is not outrageous of course)
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Vongola-Hibari - Apr. 01, 2011
Does anyone think that the stickers that come with the Rev-Up launcher are ugly?
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - iVtechboyinpa - Apr. 01, 2011
So that would be where a Beylauncher suspension/rubberband trick comes in?
RE: New Hasbro Battle Gear - Otsu - Apr. 01, 2011
(Apr. 01, 2011 5:18 AM)SPegasis Master Wrote: The third gear gives it the power? I thought it was because the string is longer and the silver winding thingy is longer too, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
It's called gear ratio.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_ratio