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Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 29, 2007
http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/07/news/midcaps/hasbro_results/
Quote:Verrecchia said the company was blindsided by an unexpected $97 million year-over-year decline in sales from its Beyblade brand of spinning top toys and lower margins on its high-volume Videonow products, which is a portable, handheld personal video player for kids.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Train - Oct. 29, 2007
I don't get it the next line says it was a big success with the consumer, but from a financial standard what the hell? Oh and I can tell you one thing for certain the prices they had HMS at were what killed it. I almost had to pay like 13 dollars for one stupid Thunder Dragon.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 29, 2007
Ozuma Wrote:I don't get it the next line says it was a big success with the consumer, but from a financial standard what the hell? Oh and I can tell you one thing for certain the prices they had HMS at were what killed it. I almost had to pay like 13 dollars for one stupid Thunder Dragon.
That was talking about Videonow.
Yes, the prices were crazy ... there were so many mismanagement steps.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Ichida - Oct. 29, 2007
Yeah, really. They thought one lousy WC would be enough to keep sales up, but since they never held any tournaments after that, there was very little reason for kids to keep playing. Plus, lots of kids simply outgrew the sport.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 29, 2007
Ichida Wrote:Yeah, really. They thought one lousy WC would be enough to keep sales up, but since they never held any tournaments after that, there was very little reason for kids to keep playing. Plus, lots of kids simply outgrew the sport.
For people who weren't in proximity of the VERY few Beyblade events held, it didn't affect them.
Hasbro didn't market the game as a strategy game at all. Most players had no way of telling one Beyblade's abilities from another. Thus, there was no reason to keep buying them. Hasbro has to be one of the few companies I've ever seen ANTI-marketing their own products (eg. removing the strategy sections from instruction guides).
There was also no Beyblade magazine/website with decent information, which would have helped a LOT. Beyblade.com could've been a great site.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Nic - Oct. 29, 2007
That's the attitude problem. In Japan, hobbies are a big thing, while in USA, parents would rather their children spend their time more... productively? Is that a good word to use?
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 29, 2007
Composer of Requiems Wrote:That's the attitude problem. In Japan, hobbies are a big thing, while in USA, parents would rather their children spend their time more... productively? Is that a good word to use?
Good word to use for sure. Unfortunately, most parents (both in Japan and the USA) don't realize the real benefits of having your kids involved in something like this. There has to be a balance for sure, but these hobbies are very useful for building social interaction, logic, etc.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - rooneyt - Oct. 29, 2007
Tamer Brad Wrote:ya there that but beyblades are mad fun toComposer of Requiems Wrote:That's the attitude problem. In Japan, hobbies are a big thing, while in USA, parents would rather their children spend their time more... productively? Is that a good word to use?
Good word to use for sure. Unfortunately, most parents (both in Japan and the USA) don't realize the real benefits of having your kids involved in something like this. There has to be a balance for sure, but these hobbies are very useful for building social interaction, logic, etc.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - G - Oct. 29, 2007
Organization would have helped too... I remember going to a scheduled Rip Zone event, but when I went there they were like "Rip zone?"
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 29, 2007
We never even had rip zones in Canada, we had the YTV events, which, in their defense, were at least "okay".
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Cye Kinomiya - Oct. 30, 2007
G Wrote:Organization would have helped too... I remember going to a scheduled Rip Zone event, but when I went there they were like "Rip zone?"
Yeah. That happened to me too.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Katashi - Oct. 30, 2007
Tamer Brad Wrote:Composer of Requiems Wrote:That's the attitude problem. In Japan, hobbies are a big thing, while in USA, parents would rather their children spend their time more... productively? Is that a good word to use?
Good word to use for sure. Unfortunately, most parents (both in Japan and the USA) don't realize the real benefits of having your kids involved in something like this. There has to be a balance for sure, but these hobbies are very useful for building social interaction, logic, etc.
They'd much rather have their children knock their heads in playing in a junior football league (This is in America, btw.) As was brought out, Hasbro pretty much screwed over Beyblade. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: Hasbro would have been better off kicking Beyblade responsabilities to Wizards of the Coast. We would have more than likely recieved better quality tournaments and more of them.
As for the high prices of HMS killing the finacial productivity of the brand, that was Takara's doing. Over here, it was Hasbro's stupidity for taking so long to complete the HMS releases. That would have maybe kept some interest floating about.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 30, 2007
How was it Takara's doing? HMS was about the same price in Japan as every other Beyblade.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Katashi - Oct. 30, 2007
Tamer Brad Wrote:How was it Takara's doing? HMS was about the same price in Japan as every other Beyblade.
It was? Hum...well, it must just be the import price, but those kinds of prices (especially with places like ToyWiz), are somewhat expected. And I thought Kei was referring to the Japanese prices. Now that I realize it was probably the Hasbro retail prices, I understand what he's talking about. Wal-Mart sold HMS for $10 when they first came out
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - AnnieDuck - Oct. 30, 2007
Those toywiz prices are because they want to make an insane profit.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Nic - Oct. 30, 2007
Katashi Wrote:They'd much rather have their children knock their heads in playing in a junior football league (This is in America, btw.)
I was just about to ask about that XD
Oh well, here, parents' main focus are... studies, and more studies~
Katashi Wrote:It was? Hum...well, it must just be the import price, but those kinds of prices (especially with places like ToyWiz), are somewhat expected. And I thought Kei was referring to the Japanese prices. Now that I realize it was probably the Hasbro retail prices, I understand what he's talking about. Wal-Mart sold HMS for $10 when they first came out O_o
Christmas 100yen sales were the best thing that ever came to bey. Pity most of them were gone by the time I got there.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - G - Oct. 30, 2007
Composer of Requiems Wrote:Katashi Wrote:They'd much rather have their children knock their heads in playing in a junior football league (This is in America, btw.)
I was just about to ask about that XD
Oh well, here, parents' main focus are... studies, and more studies~
Katashi Wrote:It was? Hum...well, it must just be the import price, but those kinds of prices (especially with places like ToyWiz), are somewhat expected. And I thought Kei was referring to the Japanese prices. Now that I realize it was probably the Hasbro retail prices, I understand what he's talking about. Wal-Mart sold HMS for $10 when they first came out
Christmas 100yen sales were the best thing that ever came to bey. Pity most of them were gone by the time I got there.
*dies*
mannnnnnnnnn
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 30, 2007
Don't even get me started. I had a permanent 50% off discount at Ideal as they were winding down Beyblade sales, but I had no interest ... D:
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Elmo - Oct. 30, 2007
75% off at Target.
I only bought 2 =(
(Dragoon and Draciel v2)
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - OSW - Oct. 30, 2007
I missed the only event i've ever heard of in my area a few years back. i think it was some lead up to the world champs or something.
I think the anime tie in was very important... i don't know when they stopped playing eps on free to air tv in other countries... but it wasn't long enough here i believe.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Kei - Oct. 30, 2007
Katashi Wrote:It was? Hum...well, it must just be the import price, but those kinds of prices (especially with places like ToyWiz), are somewhat expected. And I thought Kei was referring to the Japanese prices. Now that I realize it was probably the Hasbro retail prices, I understand what he's talking about. Wal-Mart sold HMS for $10 when they first came out
When did I say anything?? o_o
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Ichida - Oct. 30, 2007
I would have played in the "Blader Jam" tourney they held in Toronto years ago, but my family dragged me out of town that weekend. You better believe I was pissed.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 30, 2007
Ichida Wrote:I would have played in the "Blader Jam" tourney they held in Toronto years ago, but my family dragged me out of town that weekend. You better believe I was pissed.
I didn't have any real Beyblades when that happened, haha.
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Fleetscut - Oct. 30, 2007
i was supposed to be in new york the same day as the WC, but my trip got canceled cause of increased border security and my parents decided not to go. one of the other things that ruined beyblade sales was that hasbro was obsessed with putting an engine gear in blades that never had them originally making the blades that everyone were waiting for utterly useless and worthless to buy
RE: Tournament and strategy support would've helped. - Bey Brad - Oct. 30, 2007
Fleetscut Wrote:i was supposed to be in new york the same day as the WC, but my trip got canceled cause of increased border security and my parents decided not to go. one of the other things that ruined beyblade sales was that hasbro was obsessed with putting an engine gear in blades that never had them originally making the blades that everyone were waiting for utterly useless and worthless to buy
Not true. Many Beyblades, particularly the BEGA Beyblades minus Gigars and Zeus, were improved by the addition.