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Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
Here are the results for Rock Susanow 100WD vs MF Earth Bull C145B in the Lightning Force Stadium:
1) Susanow launched 1st: Won by outspin
2) Bull launched 1st: Loss by outspin
3) Susanow launched 1st: Won by KO
4) Bull launched 1st: Draw, both pocketed
5) Susanow launched 1st: Loss, pocketed by Bull
6) Bull launched 1st: Loss by outspin
7) Susanow launched 1st: Win by KO
8) Bull launched 1st: Loss by KO
9) Susanow launched 1st: Win by KO
10) Bull launched 1st: Loss by outspin
Final Results: 8 - 1
I used a Beylauncher and all of the molds were Hasbro. Yes I know this was done in the Lightning Force Stadium, but the results are still impressive to me. I would also like to note that the Susanow Clear Wheel repeatedly hit the Earth wheel, avoiding the Claws.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - Ray Joker - Nov. 13, 2010
Rock Susanow what?
You didn't state the parts.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - UltimateChimera - Nov. 13, 2010
interesting,try maybe counter or earth metal wheels and then compare them.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
(Nov. 13, 2010 5:16 AM)RayJoker Wrote: Rock Susanow what?
You didn't state the parts.
Ah sorry thanks, edited.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - Ray Joker - Nov. 13, 2010
Interesting, especially in the LF stadium.
Err, I actually thought that this was an attack type.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
Thanks, I'm going to try some testing with my Bakushin wheel once I get over the fact that it's gonna chip and not look pretty
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - Wraith - Nov. 13, 2010
You do know that Lightning Force nullifies nearly all results, right?
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
Not necessarily, it is an OK stadium. It is just not AS good as the Attack stadium. If someone with an Attack stadium could test this combo that would be even better.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - AngelicSight - Nov. 13, 2010
Well, lightning force does nullify all results, but I can do it in 2 weeks after I get my attack stadium. I won't be able to do it it with bakushin though. Only counter. And also, if you don't want to get the paint all scratched off, go to DrigerGT's website and look up how he keeps his blades all shiny. There is a part about preserving paint.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
(Nov. 13, 2010 5:32 AM)AngelicSight Wrote: Well, lightning force does nullify all results, but I can do it in 2 weeks after I get my attack stadium. I won't be able to do it it with bakushin though. Only counter. And also, if you don't want to get the paint all scratched off, go to DrigerGT's website and look up how he keeps his blades all shiny. There is a part about preserving paint.
I didn't use Bakushin Susanow I used Rock Susanow, remember that.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - blah - Nov. 13, 2010
What ?
You can't test a Stamina combo against a Defence combo and then say it's good.
You need to test Stamina against Stamina, preferably against Burn/Earth Bull.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
I actually didn't mean for it to be a Stamina at all. I don't have Burn yet though, but I will test it against MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF now.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - Kai-V - Nov. 13, 2010
Rock Bull 100WD is more or less a Stamina type, and it would still not make much sense to use it against an Attack type ...
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
I'm doing the best I can
If someone could test this combo in an Attack Stadium against other Top Tiers it would be much appreciated.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - blah - Nov. 13, 2010
I could test it but I don't have the Susanow clear wheel. Would it matter if I used it with another clear wheel ?
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 13, 2010
Partly, because I am also testing the effectiveness of the Susanow Clear Wheel on low tracks. But a similar one like Cancer would be good too.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - DarkFox - Nov. 13, 2010
I can test it, let me know what everyone wants it to be tested against....unless you want something along the lines of
MF Earth Bull GB145WD v MF Rock Susanow 100WD
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - Crimson Aquario - Nov. 13, 2010
But, Really, wouldn't replacing rock with earth make a very good stamina type? Maybe Rock does really good on a low track though, so this is worth testing. But what type is supposed to be? Stamina?
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - 桃太郎 - Nov. 13, 2010
It's a Stamina Type. But to answer your earlier question, it depends on your Earth, whether it's Mold 1 or Mold 2. Mold 1 from TT is generally lighter, and is better for Stamina, whereas the latter is heavier and best suited with a Defense Bey.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - DarkFox - Nov. 13, 2010
(Nov. 13, 2010 6:13 PM)桃太郎 Wrote: It's a Stamina Type. But to answer your earlier question, it depends on your Earth, whether it's Mold 1 or Mold 2. Mold 1 from TT is generally lighter, and is better for Stamina, whereas the latter is heavier and best suited with a Defense Bey.
yea all I have is mold 2's, so I can switch out the WD for a WB on both if so desired
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - LeonTempest - Nov. 16, 2010
i would just like to say that LF does not nullify attack types completely...true they are hindered but just use a string launcher or dragoon ripcord with the attack types and then a light launcher + short ripord with all other types. the results are much more balanced as I have tested ( i have yet to test attack types with a MF in this stadium) though not as balanced as a TT Attack Stadium.
these are interesting tests...though the improvments that could be made to them have already been stated
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 16, 2010
(Nov. 16, 2010 4:19 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: i would just like to say that LF does not nullify attack types completely...true they are hindered but just use a string launcher or dragoon ripcord with the attack types and then a light launcher + short ripord with all other types. the results are much more balanced as I have tested ( i have yet to test attack types with a MF in this stadium) though not as balanced as a TT Attack Stadium.
these are interesting tests...though the improvments that could be made to them have already been stated
Yay I don't feel like my tests were a complete and utter waste now ^-^ thanks. But people are misunderstanding this test, it was mainly a test to see how effective a clear wheel can be on a low track with little movement.
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - DarkFox - Nov. 16, 2010
I took new videos of this in action I will post later they are rendering and need to be trimmed
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - |Joe| - Nov. 16, 2010
(Nov. 16, 2010 6:07 AM)DarkFox Wrote: I took new videos of this in action I will post later they are rendering and need to be trimmed
Ok Just edit you post with links to them in this thread. I'm anxious to see if I DID actually find something good heh
RE: Rock Susanow: New Top Tier Combo? - earthleone234 - Nov. 16, 2010
Switch to flame, I don't know why it's good, but my friend uses it and it's beast!