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Leone CH120RF - Master - Jul. 12, 2010
Well, just saw the Italian WBO section, and their arguement on the ban of RF(I disagree).
They said a couple of combos that seemed to dominate their metagames.
I also viewed Climax's tests, and was quite suprised. So I tried out this combo.
LeoneCh120RF
Stamina
First off I did the following
Leone Ch120RF vs Earth Bull DF145SD
Launched Same Time
Leone Slide Shoot
MFB Attack Stadium
BeyLaunchers
120 Height
Leone Ch120 RF: 15/20
Earth Bull Df145SD: 5/20
1 Suicide with Leone
Conclusion: Wasn't all too suprised, after seeing Climax's. Very fierce attacking by Leone, Really like this combo
Leone Ch120RF vs Earth Bull DF145SD
Launched Same Time
Leone Slide Shoot
MFB Attack Stadium
BeyLaunchers
145 Height
LeoneCh120RF: 16/20
EarthBull Df145SD: 3/20
1 Draw
1 Suicide by Leone
Conclusion: WICKED smash attack by Leone, Earth had no chance of come back. Too light to small, Leone was all over it.
Defense
Leone Ch120RF vs MF Earth Bull GB 145WB
Launched Same Time
Leone Slide Shoot
MFB Attack Stadium
BeyLaunchers
80% Launch with Earth
120 Height
Leone Ch120RF : 12/20
MF Earth Bull Gb145WB: 8/20
2 Suicides By Leone.
Conclusion: Leone, went under kept hitting GB, Metal face sustained some of the hits. Couple of Self-KO's, I am too lazy atm to try this combo with MF.
Leone CH120RF vs MF Earth Bull GB145WB
Launched Same Time
Leone Slide Shoot
MFB Attack Stadium
BeyLaunchers
80% Launch
145 Height
Leone Ch120RF: 13/20
MF Earth Bull GB145WB: 6/20
1 Draw
2 Suicides
Conclusion: Smash attack.
Attack
Leone Ch120RF vs Storm Pegasis 100RF
Launched Same Time
Both Slide Shoot
MFB Attack Stadium
BeyLaunchers
120 Height
Leone: 16/20
Pegasis: 4/20
Conclusion: Pegasis was running for its life. =)
At the end of these tests, I concluded that Leone has wicked smash attack. And when fighting defense combo, should utilize Metal Face to remove some Self-KOs.
But vs. Stamina and Attack, MF is not all that neccessary.
RE: My Testings >.< - Marco - Jul. 13, 2010
Awesome testing man! Also on the topic title you should put the combo you are testing so people know what they are clicking on, but overall I think Leone has a real chance of getting on to the competitive combos list.
RE: My Testings >.< - Diamond - Jul. 13, 2010
(Jul. 12, 2010 11:31 PM)Master Wrote: At the end of these tests, I concluded that Leone has wicked smash attack. And when fighting defense combo, should utilize Metal Face to remove some Self-KOs.It is better to use a Metal Face on Leone when facing other Attack Types.
But vs. Stamina and Attack, MF is not all that neccessary.
Leone has a considerable amount of recoil. Without a Metal Face, Leone will have a higher chance of getting KOed when facing Top-Tier Attack combos.
Also, how are you getting that many self-KOs against Defense and Stamina types? Was it the RF's problem, or was it Leone's recoil?
RE: My Testings >.< - Master - Jul. 13, 2010
Leone's Recoil. Completely.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 13, 2010
Quote:Earth Bull Df145SD: 5/20
Conclusion: Wasn't all too suprised, after seeing Climax's. Very fierce attacking by Leone, Really like this combo
Uhmmm, did you post the right result?
RE: Leone CH120RF - Daegor42 - Jul. 13, 2010
(Jul. 13, 2010 4:56 AM)Mc Frown Wrote:Quote:Earth Bull Df145SD: 5/20
Conclusion: Wasn't all too suprised, after seeing Climax's. Very fierce attacking by Leone, Really like this combo
Uhmmm, did you post the right result?
It has an SD bottom. I wouldn't be surprised.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Master - Jul. 13, 2010
Yes, right result.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 13, 2010
I totally bypassed what was written above it, and thought you meant the Earth Bull DF145SD won 15 matches.
Please disregard what I said.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Master - Jul. 13, 2010
Hehe, its fine everybody makes mistakes.
Have you tried out this combo?
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 13, 2010
No, but I just bought a pre-HWS Leone.
RE: Leone CH120RF - kaiserEXE - Jul. 17, 2010
Would lowering the height reduce the recoil?
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 18, 2010
...You must not understand attack.
RE: Leone CH120RF - kaiserEXE - Jul. 18, 2010
(Jul. 18, 2010 2:05 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: ...You must not understand attack.
obviously.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Pimpju - Jul. 18, 2010
LOL said with pride.
RE: Leone CH120RF - jwb97a - Jul. 18, 2010
i use almost same combo except wb bottom but i might vhange to this sounds good
RE: Leone CH120RF - Cpt. Squirrel - Jul. 18, 2010
Leone CH120RF and Leone CH120WB would be complete opposites of each other.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 19, 2010
(Jul. 18, 2010 9:25 AM)kaiserEXE Wrote:(Jul. 18, 2010 2:05 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: ...You must not understand attack.
obviously.
I already like you.
Leone is better with a higher track, because it's contact points are already low, and it needs to hit the metal wheel as much as possible to really get the full force of its blow in.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Priscient - Jul. 24, 2010
My question right now is if this would work as spectacular with the Counter wheel. (My guess is yes.)
I might pick up a Leone wheel if I come by it and I have spare cash.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Mc Frown - Jul. 24, 2010
They're on eBay, buzztoy has them for $11 (USD) with shipping.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Dirge - Jul. 29, 2010
(Jul. 24, 2010 5:08 AM)Pockyx3 Wrote: My question right now is if this would work as spectacular with the Counter wheel. (My guess is yes.)
I might pick up a Leone wheel if I come by it and I have spare cash.
Counter has abit less recoil then the orginal leone metal wheel (ive used my counter wheel quite alot) the gaps between the "paws" is slightly smaller which is why it has less recoil i think thats why.
RE: Leone CH120RF - TheLVJ - Jul. 29, 2010
(Jul. 29, 2010 5:31 AM)Dirge Wrote: Counter has abit less recoil then the orginal leone metal wheel (ive used my counter wheel quite alot) the gaps between the "paws" is slightly smaller which is why it has less recoil i think thats why.
Lowered recoil is a result of the more compact and rounded design of the paws.
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RE: Leone CH120RF - Master - Jul. 29, 2010
But isn't Leone a more better overall smash attacker then counter?
RE: Leone CH120RF - TheLVJ - Jul. 29, 2010
It's not conclusive. We lack a definite answer due to the inadequate testing of Counter.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Marco - Jul. 31, 2010
Hey guys I thought I might test Leone 100RF against MF Virgo C145WB and I only had a PTW but let me be the first to tell you, after you see these results, you'll be soiling your pants.
Pegasus Thunder Whip
MF Virgo C145WB vs Leone 100RF
Best of 10
Virgo launched first with straight shoot at 80%
Leone launched with sliding shoot
Both with Launcher Grip + Beylauncher
1. Leone K.O.
2. Leone K.O.
3. Leone K.T.F.O. (Out of stadium... What the carp?! On PTW ?!)
4. Virgo outspin
5. Virgo outspin
6. Leone K.O.
7. Leone K.O.
8. Virgo outspin
9. Leone K.O.
10. Virgo outspin (Leone still bullied it around the stadium and made it bounce off the wall multiple times, loss was a result of a bad wall to pocket ratio.)
Overall I was stunned, I was just playing around the first 3 then since they were all K.O.'s I decided to just keep going and record them and post them here. Leone should definitely be top tier. Also sorry for not using Earth Bull, I didn't have an Earth metal wheel.
RE: Leone CH120RF - Master - Jul. 31, 2010
Marco thanks for the tests, but they are in Pegasis Thunderwhip, which is a very bad stadium, expecially for attacks, and I am suprised Leone got 5 wins o.0
But very invalid, and Leone does better when it makes metal-metal contact.