• [IMPORTANT] Plastics & HMS Rulebook: Multiple Large Changes to Formats
  
• Burst Limited: Driger V2 & Almight added to ban list.
  
• All Rulebooks: "Identical" Parts & Equipment Clarification
  
• All Rulebooks: Stadium Adjustment Reminder
  
• All Rulebooks: Deck Format Launcher Clarification
  
• Burst Rulebooks: Restriction on Mode Changes requiring Disassembly now lifted.
  
• Burst Rulebooks: DB & Pro Series Stadiums now legal for Ranked play
  
• Burst Rulebooks: DB/BU Legality Clarification
  
• Organizer's Guide: Event Date Conflicts Restriction now removed
  

• 6 gameplay changes.
  
• 10 part ruling changes.
  
• 4 Launcher rulings.
  
• 2 Terminology clarifications.
  

Format Rulebook - Breakage During Play Wrote:If a Beyblade part or launcher breaks during battle or while launching, the battle is voided and the owner must produce an identical replacement to continue the match, or they will be declared the loser of the match.

If both players’ Beyblades break at the same time and they both cannot produce identical replacements to continue the match, the match is reset and the selection phase begins again.

"Identical" is defined as a same named component, regardless of colour or the product it originated from. (i.e: Long Beylauncher LR, regardless of colouring, can be replaced with another Long Beylauncher LR, or an F230, regardless of colour or release, can be replaced by another F230).

Format Rulebook - Launching Wrote:Do not touch the BeyStadium at any time. If you think the BeyStadium should be adjusted, ask a judge.

Format Rulebook - Deck Match Type > Deck Building Wrote:

1. Choose 3 Beyblades: Build up to 3 Beyblades with no repeating parts that will make up your deck for the match.
   
2. Choose Launcher(s): Choose up to three launchers (one launcher per combo) for the match
   
3. Choose your Deck: Assemble up to 3 Beyblades with no repeating parts and up to 3 launchers that will make up your deck for the match.
   
4. Declare you are "set" to the judge.
   
5. Judge Inspects Deck: The judge will inspect your deck and launcher(s).
   
6. Players Inspect Opponent's Deck: Before the match begins, both Bladers will inspect each other’s decks.
   
7. Beyblade Selection: Both players then select their first Beyblade in secret.
   

Burst Rulebooks - Gameplay Appendix > Parts with Multiple Modes Wrote:

• Modes may be changed at any point before a match begins, or between rounds within a match.
  
• If the part with a mode change requires disassembly, the initial mode must be selected during the Beyblade Selection phase before presenting your Beyblade to the judge for inspection. After the first battle, it may only be changed once for the entire match.
  
• If two players wish to change modes at the same time, they must turn around and do so in secret before continuing the match.
  
• Parts with gimmicks/mode changes that may activate or change–whether intentionally or not–post-launch must be reset after each battle. These are not considered mode changes and do not count towards the single mode change per battle limit for parts with mode changes that require disassembly.
  

Burst Format Rulebooks - Legal Equipment Wrote:All ranked matches must take place in one of the following stadiums:

• Takara-Tomy Burst BeyStadium Standard Type.
  
• Takara-Tomy Burst BeyStadium DB.
  
• Hasbro Pro Series Elite Champions BeyStadium.
  

Organizer\s Guide - Planning Your Tournament > Date Conflicts Wrote:Organizers may not host an event within the same week as another Organizer within a 50 mile/80 Kilometer radius that is already hosting an approved event without their written approval in the event proposal for their secondary event.
To prevent conflicting event dates in your region, we recommend communicating your proposal to nearby organizers.

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:47 PM)ZestyPhresh Wrote: Really awesome and well thought out changes. Great that the easier to get stadiums will be tournament legal now, will help a lot of organizers get started!

A bit sad no spin direction change still... Really kills the usefulness of of those parts, but I also have experience in formats that it IS allowed and see why it can be a problem

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:56 PM)Cindercast Wrote: Do the Knockout rules stay the same for the Pro Series stamina and the B-09/B-33? Or will there be a change on the knockout ruling for said specific stadium due to the differences in exits.

Does this also mean a Pro Series stadium and a Standard Bey stadium can be run at the same time at an event? Or does the host have to pick one.

(Oct. 26, 2022  12:04 AM)~Mana~ Wrote:

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:56 PM)Cindercast Wrote: Do the Knockout rules stay the same for the Pro Series stamina and the B-09/B-33? Or will there be a change on the knockout ruling for said specific stadium due to the differences in exits.

Does this also mean a Pro Series stadium and a Standard Bey stadium can be run at the same time at an event? Or does the host have to pick one.

The rules remain the same, and we hope to have an update before the end of the year to make both this and the concept of the "active play area" clearer as well. It's just a much more annoying thing to conceptualise than you'd think, and everyone has their own opinion, haha.

HasPro and Standard could be run at the same event, though our recommendation to all Organizers is to keep stadiums consistent wherever possible to keep the experience for players as smooth as possible. 

But it's a recommendation and not an obligation; the odds of someone having 2-4 DB stadiums is low for example, and people may also have the same issue with Standard and HasPro stadiums too. It's intentionally open ended for accessibility for now, but we'll obviously monitor how well it's received over time and make adjustments as needed!

(Oct. 26, 2022  12:51 AM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  12:04 AM)~Mana~ Wrote: The rules remain the same, and we hope to have an update before the end of the year to make both this and the concept of the "active play area" clearer as well. It's just a much more annoying thing to conceptualise than you'd think, and everyone has their own opinion, haha.

HasPro and Standard could be run at the same event, though our recommendation to all Organizers is to keep stadiums consistent wherever possible to keep the experience for players as smooth as possible. 

But it's a recommendation and not an obligation; the odds of someone having 2-4 DB stadiums is low for example, and people may also have the same issue with Standard and HasPro stadiums too. It's intentionally open ended for accessibility for now, but we'll obviously monitor how well it's received over time and make adjustments as needed!

So would it be possible to say rotate stadiums per rounds? Like say for all of the round 1 matches they use the standard, then in round 2 everyone uses DB, so on and so forth?

Also could you potentially do like some WBBA regions and use 1 stadium in the first stage and then swap to another during the 2nd stage?

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:47 PM)ZestyPhresh Wrote: Really awesome and well thought out changes. Great that the easier to get stadiums will be tournament legal now, will help a lot of organizers get started!

A bit sad no spin direction change still... Really kills the usefulness of of those parts, but I also have experience in formats that it IS allowed and see why it can be a problem

(Oct. 26, 2022  1:25 AM)Snowwinterie Wrote: is Fengriff F2 banned from WBO?

(Oct. 26, 2022  1:12 AM)th!nk Wrote:

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:47 PM)ZestyPhresh Wrote: Really awesome and well thought out changes. Great that the easier to get stadiums will be tournament legal now, will help a lot of organizers get started!

A bit sad no spin direction change still... Really kills the usefulness of of those parts, but I also have experience in formats that it IS allowed and see why it can be a problem

Spin Direction Change is flagged to be looked at, but with Burst Spriggan around the corner, it is probably something we will look at after that or after the series ends. There is a lot to test and look at to check it all works ok in WBO formats.

It would be cool to see test tournaments (aside from 5g which we have already seen) with it allowed though!

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:47 PM)ZestyPhresh Wrote: Really awesome and well thought out changes. Great that the easier to get stadiums will be tournament legal now, will help a lot of organizers get started!

A bit sad no spin direction change still... Really kills the usefulness of of those parts, but I also have experience in formats that it IS allowed and see why it can be a problem

Quote:Driger V2 and Almight have proven to be meta-warping since their inclusion, with their heavy weight and shapes making them a safe choice during most matchups within this format. While this has led to several counter-picks arising (which is healthy within any metagame), we feel that the inclusion of these two ultimately reduces part diversity within the format too much for our liking.

(Oct. 26, 2022  1:45 AM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  1:12 AM)th!nk Wrote: Spin Direction Change is flagged to be looked at, but with Burst Spriggan around the corner, it is probably something we will look at after that or after the series ends. There is a lot to test and look at to check it all works ok in WBO formats.

It would be cool to see test tournaments (aside from 5g which we have already seen) with it allowed though!

So I want to bring up an idea that  me and some others have recently discussed and it works with your response here. Like you said burst Spriggan is about to come out and then burst will end shortly after for the most part. So waiting for that will still make sense to me. But, we already know Gen 4 is in the works and I'm sure there will be some dual rotating beys somewhere along the line. So this is an idea more for then than right now, but it can also work with other things as well.

So I come from a background of playing competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! and one thing that Konami does is when they release cards and such that might seem super overpowered on paper, they let the players play with them first to see how impactful they really are. Sometimes the cards really are overpowered and get limited or even banned in competitive play. But other times they just don't work out to be as powerful or impactful as they seemed on paper. At the same time the opposite can happen where a card seems like complete garbage on paper but ends up being super powerful in actual play. So what I'm saying is maybe the best thing is to let players use parts however they can use and abuse them, and then see if something needs to be addressed. I get the staff are also players, and skilled ones at that. But just because something is working for them doesn't mean it will work for everyone. I've said a bunch of times on the Four Gaming Podcast that Launch style is a very big factor in this game and can/will change the outcome of a match that even though you have tested it 1000 times to be different than y0our testings.

Take the DB stadium for example. I was saying we should allow it months ago, and on paper a lot of people just don't like it, and spoke up about it. But, we haven't seen how it would actually play out in the field. Now we can, and that is something I'm happy about. I think more people will come to like the DB stadium the more they play in it. Sure they might have to change up their style a little bit, or even use parts that they never would of used before. But hey, if parts that weren't seeing play now get to see play, I see that as an absolute win!

(Oct. 26, 2022  2:05 AM)BladerGem Wrote:

(Oct. 25, 2022  11:47 PM)ZestyPhresh Wrote: Really awesome and well thought out changes. Great that the easier to get stadiums will be tournament legal now, will help a lot of organizers get started!

A bit sad no spin direction change still... Really kills the usefulness of of those parts, but I also have experience in formats that it IS allowed and see why it can be a problem

I had to re-read that section a few times, at first I thought it'd allow for more dynamic use of the new Super/King/SuperKing layers, but I guess not. Which is probably for the best, considering the meta is already oversaturated with Stamina types. 
Although now I'm kind of curious as to what Beyblades have mode changes that require disassembly that aren't spin direction-related. I can think of changing 2B from fixed to free-spin, frames like Turn and Lift, Prominence armor, and I guess some stuff with Zest, but that's about it. I suppose it makes changing Quattro's modes a lot easier though, so no real complaints here.

I'm not a fan of the BU stadium as I feel it's too different from the Standard Type, but if the accessibility means more tournaments in my area, I guess I can't complain too much.

While I'm here, I guess I might as well ask and try to get some clarification: What is the WBO's intended goal for Burst Standard as a format? Is it meant to be a format where all parts are allowed, or are part bans a possibility? I recall in the past that there have been bans on certain parts (Garuda, Outer, Octa(?) and Spriggan Requiem(?), among a few others I can't recall), but over the years it seems as though the attitude towards bans in Standard Format has gravitated towards avoiding them if at all possible. 

The only reason I ask is because this statement, especially the highlighted parts-

Quote:Driger V2 and Almight have proven to be meta-warping since their inclusion, with their heavy weight and shapes making them a safe choice during most matchups within this format. While this has led to several counter-picks arising (which is healthy within any metagame), we feel that the inclusion of these two ultimately reduces part diversity within the format too much for our liking.

-could easily be applied to a number of the current high-pick-rate/high-win-rate parts. 
Are there any plans to revisit balancing and part bans once Burst as a series concludes, or is this format (and by extension, the meta) essentially set in stone?

(Oct. 26, 2022  2:10 PM)th!nk Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  1:45 AM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: So I want to bring up an idea that  me and some others have recently discussed and it works with your response here. Like you said burst Spriggan is about to come out and then burst will end shortly after for the most part. So waiting for that will still make sense to me. But, we already know Gen 4 is in the works and I'm sure there will be some dual rotating beys somewhere along the line. So this is an idea more for then than right now, but it can also work with other things as well.

So I come from a background of playing competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! and one thing that Konami does is when they release cards and such that might seem super overpowered on paper, they let the players play with them first to see how impactful they really are. Sometimes the cards really are overpowered and get limited or even banned in competitive play. But other times they just don't work out to be as powerful or impactful as they seemed on paper. At the same time the opposite can happen where a card seems like complete garbage on paper but ends up being super powerful in actual play. So what I'm saying is maybe the best thing is to let players use parts however they can use and abuse them, and then see if something needs to be addressed. I get the staff are also players, and skilled ones at that. But just because something is working for them doesn't mean it will work for everyone. I've said a bunch of times on the Four Gaming Podcast that Launch style is a very big factor in this game and can/will change the outcome of a match that even though you have tested it 1000 times to be different than y0our testings.

Take the DB stadium for example. I was saying we should allow it months ago, and on paper a lot of people just don't like it, and spoke up about it. But, we haven't seen how it would actually play out in the field. Now we can, and that is something I'm happy about. I think more people will come to like the DB stadium the more they play in it. Sure they might have to change up their style a little bit, or even use parts that they never would of used before. But hey, if parts that weren't seeing play now get to see play, I see that as an absolute win!

We usually try to do that with many things where they won't cause outrage like allowing fused drivers in classic for example - all parts themselves default legal in standard and drivers default legal in every format.

But every time we don't ban something immediately everyone thinks it's as obscene as Mystic Mine still not being banned in the TCG. Hell, Burst Limited's channel in the discord is basically only ever active when it's people talking about us not banning things fast enough... Consider it listening to feedback to an extent

As for DB, we've been internally observing the WBBA, as well as some events, side events and testing, but this discussion and decision did stem largely from your thread I believe. We will of course be observing it, but I think our reservations about the very different gameplay experience should be understandable enough - we've already been called "brainless" for allowing it (by someone in my area - who is funnily enough very unlikely to ever have a chance to play in it because most of my regulars hate it and I don't really want to host in it), and I'd say it's the one complaint I've heard about these rulings. So... There is a good reason we waited. People are still very mixed on it.

(Oct. 26, 2022  3:24 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote:

(Oct. 26, 2022  2:10 PM)th!nk Wrote: We usually try to do that with many things where they won't cause outrage like allowing fused drivers in classic for example - all parts themselves default legal in standard and drivers default legal in every format.

But every time we don't ban something immediately everyone thinks it's as obscene as Mystic Mine still not being banned in the TCG. Hell, Burst Limited's channel in the discord is basically only ever active when it's people talking about us not banning things fast enough... Consider it listening to feedback to an extent

As for DB, we've been internally observing the WBBA, as well as some events, side events and testing, but this discussion and decision did stem largely from your thread I believe. We will of course be observing it, but I think our reservations about the very different gameplay experience should be understandable enough - we've already been called "brainless" for allowing it (by someone in my area - who is funnily enough very unlikely to ever have a chance to play in it because most of my regulars hate it and I don't really want to host in it), and I'd say it's the one complaint I've heard about these rulings. So... There is a good reason we waited. People are still very mixed on it.

Oh god Mystic Mine. PTSD time! Lol. Anyway I agree that the community should understand that a different stadium would require a different mind set of how to play the game. Drivers will preform differently in different stadiums.

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I would actually like a clarification on this set of wording for the mode changes. “Modes may be changed at any point before a match begins, or between rounds within a match.” Now it says any point. Does that mean that when both bladers present their beys for the battle, they can change the mode at that point in time only? Or can I wait to see what change my opponent makes, and then make my change? And to add to that, if after I make that change, because the battle hasn’t started yet, could my opponent decide to make a new change?