(Sep. 24, 2021  11:07 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: I know Ragnuruk says “just for jokes” but I happen to think that it’s evolution line is pretty good. Now I am a bit biased since Rantaro is king in my world and rising roktavor was my first bey ever, but let me explain.
The first version, I think of dual layers as the blueprints of Beyblade since they had no actual abilities, but were a fresh start to the beys we know today,  really shows what ragnaruk parts were meant for later on. The layer nailed the design, just not so much of a circle rather than a big 2 flaming blades. The disc, heavy, was one of the best stamina discs and discs overall for dual layers and single layers and survive had the signature cone shape of a driver that ragnaruk has always had. The best stamina drivers ever are coned shaped: never, bearing, revolve, eternal, Xtend+…
The 1st evolution had the amazing driver revolve along with an insane stamina disc that was compact gravity and the layer was nice as well.

Berserk Ragnarok came with the cool driver flugel, the 4 disc which can be used on attack combos struggling with burst resistance at the time since there were no dash drivers, the infamous cross frame, and the good layer.

The 3rd evolution, like many in turbo like winning Valkryie and bloody Longinus, was severely disappointing. Crash ragnaruk struggled with burst resistance, and at the time dash drivers were extremely hard to come by. The disc was useless, reach was decent, and the driver wedge had some mixed opinions. I hate this evo the most since it is the evolution that really brought Ragnarok the hate it has today and doesn’t deserve, and the King Rantaro got ripped off. Ranjiro’s fine and all, but I liked him better in sparking where he had his own bey and didnt completely replace the king when doing so.

Gt we don’t talk about…

Sparking came with the infamous revolve driver, the cool chip, the insane 1S and wheel combo, the glide ring that works insanely well and Paris up with 2A or 2S. I liked sparking for the anime more than turbo, but obviously less than the first 2 seasons because it actually featured rantaro while having ranjiro in the back. Practically everyone was cursing on how bad glide as, but everyone bought the bey cause of its competetive value. Who’s saying glides bad now when wheel and 1S is practically in every 1 of 3 sparking combos that are good?

6th season was really good for the bey since the disc was really competitive as was the driver. The stock combo is basically unbeatable against the dB releases as of now. This evolution should remind people that ragnaruk doesn’t derisive it’s hate, and now that the stock is basically the best in the dB line up, it beats guilty roar and astral by LAD, beats up savior and astral by same spin, and even perfect belial with all those upgrades loses to it via stamina, people show how down to rantaro as I do.

RANTARO AND RAGNAROK FOREVER!

(Sep. 25, 2021  4:57 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:

(Sep. 24, 2021  11:07 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: I know Ragnuruk says “just for jokes” but I happen to think that it’s evolution line is pretty good. Now I am a bit biased since Rantaro is king in my world and rising roktavor was my first bey ever, but let me explain.
The first version, I think of dual layers as the blueprints of Beyblade since they had no actual abilities, but were a fresh start to the beys we know today,  really shows what ragnaruk parts were meant for later on. The layer nailed the design, just not so much of a circle rather than a big 2 flaming blades. The disc, heavy, was one of the best stamina discs and discs overall for dual layers and single layers and survive had the signature cone shape of a driver that ragnaruk has always had. The best stamina drivers ever are coned shaped: never, bearing, revolve, eternal, Xtend+…
The 1st evolution had the amazing driver revolve along with an insane stamina disc that was compact gravity and the layer was nice as well.

Berserk Ragnarok came with the cool driver flugel, the 4 disc which can be used on attack combos struggling with burst resistance at the time since there were no dash drivers, the infamous cross frame, and the good layer.

The 3rd evolution, like many in turbo like winning Valkryie and bloody Longinus, was severely disappointing. Crash ragnaruk struggled with burst resistance, and at the time dash drivers were extremely hard to come by. The disc was useless, reach was decent, and the driver wedge had some mixed opinions. I hate this evo the most since it is the evolution that really brought Ragnarok the hate it has today and doesn’t deserve, and the King Rantaro got ripped off. Ranjiro’s fine and all, but I liked him better in sparking where he had his own bey and didnt completely replace the king when doing so.

Gt we don’t talk about…

Sparking came with the infamous revolve driver, the cool chip, the insane 1S and wheel combo, the glide ring that works insanely well and Paris up with 2A or 2S. I liked sparking for the anime more than turbo, but obviously less than the first 2 seasons because it actually featured rantaro while having ranjiro in the back. Practically everyone was cursing on how bad glide as, but everyone bought the bey cause of its competetive value. Who’s saying glides bad now when wheel and 1S is practically in every 1 of 3 sparking combos that are good?

6th season was really good for the bey since the disc was really competitive as was the driver. The stock combo is basically unbeatable against the dB releases as of now. This evolution should remind people that ragnaruk doesn’t derisive it’s hate, and now that the stock is basically the best in the dB line up, it beats guilty roar and astral by LAD, beats up savior and astral by same spin, and even perfect belial with all those upgrades loses to it via stamina, people show how down to rantaro as I do.

RANTARO AND RAGNAROK FOREVER!

Winning Valkyrie was the top attack layer of that time, it wasn't disappointing. 
Dual Layer wasn't the first season, it was the Single Layers. 

Layers
Ragnaruk/Rising Ragnaruk in Classic is real good with attack. 
Blaze Ragnaruk had high stamina but later outclassed by Guardian Kerbeus. 
Crash Ragnaruk had high stamina, but outclassed by Archer Hercules due to the teeth problems (they had the same stamina) 
Glide was the one that was really disappointing, it's stamina was only slightly better than Brave. 
Cyclone had decent stamina but not as good as Vanish or Dynamite (F Gear) 

Discs
Heavy and Gravity were very good as they were the heaviest discs at their time. 
4 was okay, but outclassed by 7. Burst resistance varies, but 4 and 7 were about the sa,e. 

Drivers
Survive was good, Revolve was also good. 
Flugel was horrible as it scraped and it's stamina was bad. 
Some molds of Wedge performed like Iron, but still wasn't as good. 
Revolve highly outclassed by Superking. 
Never was quite good, it had stamina and LAD, but didn't have enough of both.

(Sep. 25, 2021  5:12 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 25, 2021  4:57 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Winning Valkyrie was the top attack layer of that time, it wasn't disappointing. 
Dual Layer wasn't the first season, it was the Single Layers. 

Layers
Ragnaruk/Rising Ragnaruk in Classic is real good with attack. 
Blaze Ragnaruk had high stamina but later outclassed by Guardian Kerbeus. 
Crash Ragnaruk had high stamina, but outclassed by Archer Hercules due to the teeth problems (they had the same stamina) 
Glide was the one that was really disappointing, it's stamina was only slightly better than Brave. 
Cyclone had decent stamina but not as good as Vanish or Dynamite (F Gear) 

Discs
Heavy and Gravity were very good as they were the heaviest discs at their time. 
4 was okay, but outclassed by 7. Burst resistance varies, but 4 and 7 were about the sa,e. 

Drivers
Survive was good, Revolve was also good. 
Flugel was horrible as it scraped and it's stamina was bad. 
Some molds of Wedge performed like Iron, but still wasn't as good. 
Revolve highly outclassed by Superking. 
Never was quite good, it had stamina and LAD, but didn't have enough of both.

I know dual layer isn’t the first season, I just said that cause I think of single layers as the blueprint rather than a season. But I know that. 

Guardian Kerbeus had sucky bursting issues

I know crash was outclassed, that’s why it was a disappointment

Glides stamina was insane, it just bursted cause the single chassis

I’m not talking about cyclones ring, I’m saying the stock combo was amazing. 

Never has equal LAD to bearing dude, and it has very high same spin stamina and KO defense. 

Please stop giving me reasons why ragnaruk is bad, it’s my opinion it’s not right or wrong. Your opinion isn’t right or wrong. I wasn’t talking about the specific parts, I was talking about the evolutions and how it improved and it’s stock. Ragnaruk started off bad and progressed to get better rather than lines like spriggan who have always been good and not really been improving since reqieum.

(Sep. 25, 2021  1:04 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:

(Sep. 25, 2021  5:12 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: I know dual layer isn’t the first season, I just said that cause I think of single layers as the blueprint rather than a season. But I know that. 

Guardian Kerbeus had sucky bursting issues

I know crash was outclassed, that’s why it was a disappointment

Glides stamina was insane, it just bursted cause the single chassis

I’m not talking about cyclones ring, I’m saying the stock combo was amazing. 

Never has equal LAD to bearing dude, and it has very high same spin stamina and KO defense. 

Please stop giving me reasons why ragnaruk is bad, it’s my opinion it’s not right or wrong. Your opinion isn’t right or wrong. I wasn’t talking about the specific parts, I was talking about the evolutions and how it improved and it’s stock. Ragnaruk started off bad and progressed to get better rather than lines like spriggan who have always been good and not really been improving since reqieum.

I wasn't trying to say it's bad, I was giving the pros and cons of each Ragnaruk.

(Sep. 27, 2021  4:11 PM)Orange R Wrote: ragnaruk best has evolurion!
first there is the great rising ragnaruk
its abselutely busted, crazy how nobody talks about it
then rising ragnaruk its ok then crash , its driver is amazing!, then glide, its  garbage then we have the worst ragnaruk cyclone (its just a joke dont take it seriously)

(Sep. 27, 2021  4:23 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 27, 2021  4:11 PM)Orange R Wrote: ragnaruk best has evolurion!
first there is the great rising ragnaruk
its abselutely busted, crazy how nobody talks about it
then rising ragnaruk its ok then crash , its driver is amazing!, then glide, its  garbage then we have the worst ragnaruk cyclone (its just a joke dont take it seriously)

Please stop making fun of the ragnaruk line, there are some people who really value the character Rantaro, and the beys solid evolution line progressing as it goes, and the value to the meta giving it the best parts like heavy, revolve, gravity, cross, wheel, never, giga, and others. Some people reallly love the ragnaruk line so please stop taking it as a joke.

(Sep. 28, 2021  6:55 PM)Orange R Wrote:

(Sep. 27, 2021  4:23 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Please stop making fun of the ragnaruk line, there are some people who really value the character Rantaro, and the beys solid evolution line progressing as it goes, and the value to the meta giving it the best parts like heavy, revolve, gravity, cross, wheel, never, giga, and others. Some people reallly love the ragnaruk line so please stop taking it as a joke.

I'm sorry , i didn't mean to offend anyone it was just a joke.

(Sep. 28, 2021  7:23 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  6:55 PM)Orange R Wrote: I'm sorry , i didn't mean to offend anyone it was just a joke.

It’s alright. I’m probably the only one who doesn’t take the Ragnaruk line as a joke and actually loves it anyway. It’s ok, I won’t be so sensitive next time.

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:12 PM)Lucha Burst Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  7:23 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: It’s alright. I’m probably the only one who doesn’t take the Ragnaruk line as a joke and actually loves it anyway. It’s ok, I won’t be so sensitive next time.

I mean Ragnarok's have always been cool but lagged in performance, Glide was my favorite by far but they aren't horrible beys unlike the spriggan series besides lord and requiem

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:39 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:12 PM)Lucha Burst Wrote: I mean Ragnarok's have always been cool but lagged in performance, Glide was my favorite by far but they aren't horrible beys unlike the spriggan series besides lord and requiem

They didn’t lag in performance actually. The original Ragnarok was pretty good. Dual layer was ok. God was pretty good. Turbo was horrible and I feel like that’s fitting since rantaro not being the owner is horrible. Sparking, as bad as everyone thinks it is, beats up basically any bey that isn’t aggressive and I’ll list every single one (king Helios, curse satan, world spriggan, variant Lucifer, Lucifer the end, death solomon, mirage Fafnir) that’s a lot of beys and it has a chance against others too. The DB Ragnarok is basically the best stock combo every in DB, and possibly in beyblade burst history. It’s super stable, heavy, great stamina, great LAD, and it’s parts like giga and never are insane in competetive.

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:43 PM)USN Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:39 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: They didn’t lag in performance actually. The original Ragnarok was pretty good. Dual layer was ok. God was pretty good. Turbo was horrible and I feel like that’s fitting since rantaro not being the owner is horrible. Sparking, as bad as everyone thinks it is, beats up basically any bey that isn’t aggressive and I’ll list every single one (king Helios, curse satan, world spriggan, variant Lucifer, Lucifer the end, death solomon, mirage Fafnir) that’s a lot of beys and it has a chance against others too. The DB Ragnarok is basically the best stock combo every in DB, and possibly in beyblade burst history. It’s super stable, heavy, great stamina, great LAD, and it’s parts like giga and never are insane in competetive.

Crash was competitive back in it's prime.

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:51 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: [quote='USN' pid='1797860' dateline='1632869025']


[quote="Orange R" pid='1797605' dateline='1632755461']
ragnaruk best has evolurion!
first, there is the great rising Ragnarok
its absolutely busted, crazy how nobody talks about it
then rising Ragnarok its ok then crash, its driver is amazing!, then glide, its garbage then we have the worst Ragnarok cyclone (it just a joke don't take it seriously)

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:24 AM)Beybladedb Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:51 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 28, 2021  11:43 PM)USN Wrote:

(Sep. 27, 2021  4:11 PM)Orange R Wrote: ragnaruk best has evolurion!
first, there is the great rising Ragnarok
its absolutely busted, crazy how nobody talks about it
then rising Ragnarok its ok then crash, its driver is amazing!, then glide, its  garbage then we have the worst Ragnarok cyclone (it just a joke don't take it seriously)

Yes Ragnarok fans unite and raid the wbo users who don't know competitive and say glide is bad lol.
But still, Ragnarok usually did not see the usage with its layer cyclone and glide.
Cyclone was more an anti attacker than an actual stamina type.
Glide might have been the second-best release behind rage in sparking because it came with wheel the best disc before dB discs and 1s extreme synergy with wheel

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:44 AM)MrMister Wrote: I feel Fafnir was the worst out of these. Geist and Wizard were highly disappointing, and I don't think that Drain Fafnir did its gimmick, absorption, very well. Of course, the two newest releases were cool.

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:50 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:44 AM)MrMister Wrote: I feel Fafnir was the worst out of these. Geist and Wizard were highly disappointing, and I don't think that Drain Fafnir did its gimmick, absorption, very well. Of course, the two newest releases were cool.

Really? I happen to think Geist was very good, wizard sucked sure but it came with the awesome rise driver, mirage fafnir was kinda plain tbh, the 2S chassis was slick though. Drain fafnir was really cool as was vanish.

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:55 AM)MrMister Wrote:

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:50 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Really? I happen to think Geist was very good, wizard sucked sure but it came with the awesome rise driver, mirage fafnir was kinda plain tbh, the 2S chassis was slick though. Drain fafnir was really cool as was vanish.

Geist is too jagged to function well for stamina, plus, the driver has poor stamina as well. Rise was not good. It has poor stamina and it would scrape the ground a lot. And yeah, drain fafnir was cool, just really didn't cut it for me. It's spin steal didn't work very well at all. At least not for me. I will say Geist Fafnir is visually pleasing, but Wizard Fafnir definitely wasn't because the shade of yellow/orange was different on the gachi chip.

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:55 AM)MrMister Wrote:

(Sep. 29, 2021  1:50 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Really? I happen to think Geist was very good, wizard sucked sure but it came with the awesome rise driver, mirage fafnir was kinda plain tbh, the 2S chassis was slick though. Drain fafnir was really cool as was vanish.

Geist is too jagged to function well for stamina, plus, the driver has poor stamina as well. Rise was not good. It has poor stamina and it would scrape the ground a lot. And yeah, drain fafnir was cool, just really didn't cut it for me. It's spin steal didn't work very well at all. At least not for me. I will say Geist Fafnir is visually pleasing, but Wizard Fafnir definitely wasn't because the shade of yellow/orange was different on the gachi chip.