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RE: Winning Combinations. - Zoroaste - Oct. 14, 2015
I should fly there for a tournament. Haha. I was so pumped that my attack shots were super on point for the tourney, but didn't sliding shoot once during it.
RE: Winning Combinations. - -HB- - Oct. 14, 2015
(Oct. 14, 2015 3:01 PM)Zoroaste Wrote: I should fly there for a tournament. Haha. I was so pumped that my attack shots were super on point for the tourney, but didn't sliding shoot once during it.
haha don't be mislead us Londoners have a lot of tricks up our sleeves. Right @[Manicben] and @[Blitz]
RE: Winning Combinations. - ClaraM - Oct. 14, 2015
(Oct. 14, 2015 3:01 PM)Zoroaste Wrote: I should fly there for a tournament. Haha. I was so pumped that my attack shots were super on point for the tourney, but didn't sliding shoot once during it.
You're the opposite of me, then. I can't use an attack type to save my life but I'm OK at defending and deflecting other's attacks. It would be so much better for me if London had more attack using bladers lol
RE: Winning Combinations. - Manicben - Oct. 14, 2015
(Oct. 14, 2015 3:29 PM)-HB- Wrote:(Oct. 14, 2015 3:01 PM)Zoroaste Wrote: I should fly there for a tournament. Haha. I was so pumped that my attack shots were super on point for the tourney, but didn't sliding shoot once during it.
haha don't be mislead us Londoners have a lot of tricks up our sleeves. Right @[Manicben] and @[Blitz]
Ha you got that right
@[Zoroaste], we would love to have you over for a tournament in the future! Let us know if you are in the UK at any point.
RE: Winning Combinations. - Zoroaste - Oct. 14, 2015
Well i was half kidding, but if I ever got the money, it would definitely be cool to go there and if I did, you can bet it would be when you were having a tourney. Lol. Thank you for being so welcoming!
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 14, 2015
(Oct. 14, 2015 1:34 AM)Manicben Wrote: Er, fun last match to decide winner? If I won I get first place, if I lost, we would have to redo the finals for the third time. So it was Ragnarekking time
We seriously should start enforcing a rule about marking whether a combo was used in this manner or not at an event ... haha. It's misleading otherwise.
(Oct. 14, 2015 8:38 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: Beyblade Bursts Onto The Scene: NYC
1st: StormJupiter - Kerbeus Heavy Survive, Valkyrie Heavy Survive
2nd: Leone 7 - Wyvern Heavy Accel, Kerbeus Heavy Accel
3rd: Zoroaste - Valkyrie Heavy Assault, Wyvern Heavy Accel, Kerbeus Heavy Accel
Just added in the usernames to your post, Cye.
Pretty interesting that @[Leone 7] was able to secure 2nd Place using only mobile defense. Did you only win against Attack types, Leone7?
RE: Winning Combinations. - Leone 7 - Oct. 16, 2015
(Oct. 14, 2015 7:35 PM)Kei Wrote:(Oct. 14, 2015 1:34 AM)Manicben Wrote: Er, fun last match to decide winner? If I won I get first place, if I lost, we would have to redo the finals for the third time. So it was Ragnarekking time
We seriously should start enforcing a rule about marking whether a combo was used in this manner or not at an event ... haha. It's misleading otherwise.
(Oct. 14, 2015 8:38 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: Beyblade Bursts Onto The Scene: NYC
1st: StormJupiter - Kerbeus Heavy Survive, Valkyrie Heavy Survive
2nd: Leone 7 - Wyvern Heavy Accel, Kerbeus Heavy Accel
3rd: Zoroaste - Valkyrie Heavy Assault, Wyvern Heavy Accel, Kerbeus Heavy Accel
Just added in the usernames to your post, Cye.
Pretty interesting that @[Leone 7] was able to secure 2nd Place using only mobile defense. Did you only win against Attack types, Leone7?
I used other stuff like valkrie heavy accel and I forgot what else I used
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 16, 2015
(Oct. 16, 2015 1:01 AM)Leone 7 Wrote: I used other stuff like valkrie heavy accel and I forgot what else I used
Yeah, but you only won with the combinations Cye listed, right?
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 19, 2015
ZANKYE 100K - 10/18/15
Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Burst Format
1st: 1234beyblade
Deathscyther Spread Accel
Wyvern Spread Accel
Wyvern Heavy Survive
Valkyrie Spread Survive
2nd: LMAO
Deathscyther Heavy Survive
Deathscyther Spread Survive
Valkyrie Heavy Survive
3rd: Kei
Wyvern Heavy Claw
Deathscyther Spread Survive
Spriggan Heavy Accel
Valkyrie Spread Survive
Valkyrie Heavy Accel
Wyvern Spread Survive
Really insane tournament. The Burst metagame is incredible. Valkyrie Spread (or Heavy) Survive emerged as the big bad Beyblade to beat at this event. In hindsight it isn't as difficult to defeat as we might have thought–Wyvern Accel and Survive can do the trick–but in the moment we were all trying to wrap our heads around the idea of a top-tier Attack Layer actually working in conjunction with a top-tier Defense/Stamina Driver against stationary things like Deathscyther Spread Survive. That's not really something that has been seen before. As a result of this, I think the general opinion of Deathscyther has gone down ... yes, it has the best Stamina of any Layer, but if even Valkyrie Spread Survive can Burst Finish it consistently, then it feels even more risky because to use that combo takes arguably less skill than something like Valkyrie Heavy Accel. Therefore, more people will use it. That's not to say that Deathscyther Spread Survive doesn't have a place in the metagame–it certainly still does by virtue of it's Stamina alone–but that there's another reason to second guess your choice of using it now.
Deathscyther Spread Accel is also an interesting one, but I really can only see it being effective consistently when you have a super powerful launch like @[1234beyblade] does. Otherwise, you might not have a pleasant time against other Attack types and you might not be able to outspin Wyvern on something like Survive.
RE: Winning Combinations. - Wombat - Oct. 19, 2015
(Oct. 19, 2015 6:13 AM)Kei Wrote: ZANKYE 100K - 10/18/15
Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Burst Format
1st: 1234beyblade
Deathscyther Spread Accel
Wyvern Spread Accel
Wyvern Heavy Survive
Valkyrie Spread Survive
2nd: LMAO
Deathscyther Heavy Survive
Deathscyther Spread Survive
Valkyrie Heavy Survive
3rd: Kei
Wyvern Heavy Claw
Deathscyther Spread Survive
Spriggan Heavy Accel
Valkyrie Spread Survive
Valkyrie Heavy Accel
Wyvern Spread Survive
Really insane tournament. The Burst metagame is incredible. Valkyrie Spread (or Heavy) Survive emerged as the big bad Beyblade to beat at this event. In hindsight it isn't as difficult to defeat as we might have thought–Wyvern Accel and Survive can do the trick–but in the moment we were all trying to wrap our heads around the idea of a top-tier Attack Layer actually working in conjunction with a top-tier Defense/Stamina Driver against stationary things like Deathscyther Spread Survive. That's not really something that has been seen before.
OHHH I'm glad I wasn't the only person thinking of this! Ever since I posted that Survive had better Burst Defense and Defense had better KO Defense and how a sharp tooth Defense Layer could make higher friction Drivers more viable I was thinking of putting Valkyrie as a Defense Layer since it reminded me a lot of this.
(Oct. 19, 2015 6:13 AM)Kei Wrote: Deathscyther Spread Accel is also an interesting one, but I really can only see it being effective consistently when you have a super powerful launch like 1234beyblade does. Otherwise, you might not have a pleasant time against other Attack types and you might not be able to outspin Wyvern on something like Survive.
I figure this would theoretically beat Valkyrie Heavy/Spread Survive by stalling it out, or does the awkward weight distribution mess up its stalling abilities?
Also what are your thoughts on Claw?
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 19, 2015
(Oct. 19, 2015 6:29 AM)Wombat Wrote: OHHH I'm glad I wasn't the only person thinking of this! Ever since I posted that Survive had better Burst Defense and Defense had better KO Defense and how a sharp tooth Defense Layer could make higher friction Drivers more viable I was thinking of putting Valkyrie as a Defense Layer since it reminded me a lot of this.
I wouldn't even call it a "Defense Layer" in this case, though. It wins by Burst Finish!
(Oct. 19, 2015 6:29 AM)Wombat Wrote: I figure this would theoretically beat Valkyrie Heavy/Spread Survive by stalling it out, or does the awkward weight distribution mess up its stalling abilities?
Also what are your thoughts on Claw?
It has no problems stalling, but Deathscyther is a little susceptible for Valkyrie Survive because of its recoil. I lost to Valkyrie Spread Survive using Deathscyther Spread Accel today because of this, and I think Brad did too? Wyvern is a better choice against it. That said, if you are 1234beyblade, you probably wouldn't have any trouble outspinning it without worrying about being Burst Finished right at the end since you would be able to stall Deathscyther for a longer period of time.
As for Claw, I need to spend more time with it. From my limited testing with it, I think it is on par with Survive in terms of Stamina, and maybe has better defense.
RE: Winning Combinations. - Zoroaste - Oct. 19, 2015
Nice, I was hoping you guys would have an interesting winning combo list and you didn't disappoint. I definitely have some new things to test, to say the least. Now add Odin to the mix and it will be a fun week of testing! Expect some new posts in the Burst Customizations forum!
RE: Winning Combinations. - Leone 7 - Oct. 21, 2015
(Oct. 16, 2015 6:55 AM)Kei Wrote:(Oct. 16, 2015 1:01 AM)Leone 7 Wrote: I used other stuff like valkrie heavy accel and I forgot what else I used
Yeah, but you only won with the combinations Cye listed, right?
I know this is a little lAte but I actually won with kerbeus heavy defense and valkrie heavy accel in addition to my other winning combinations
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 21, 2015
(Oct. 21, 2015 2:03 AM)Leone 7 Wrote: I know this is a little lAte but I actually won with kerbeus heavy defense and valkrie heavy accel in addition to my other winning combinations
No problem! @[Cye Kinomiya], could you update the spreadsheet?
RE: Winning Combinations. - Cye Kinomiya - Oct. 22, 2015
Done!
RE: Winning Combinations. - ashton pinto - Oct. 22, 2015
Deja Vu All Over Again [22nd October 2015]
Plastic Format (9 members participated)
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RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 25, 2015
The WBO OP Public Tournament Data Archive has been updated with a Winning Combinations sheet for Burst Format for your convenience. Take a look.
WBO Organized Play - Public Tournament Data Archive
View & Download it Here
To download: File -> Download As -> Microsoft Excel (.xlsx)
Two interesting (but unsurprising) statistics:
- Most Used Disk: Heavy (66.1%)
- Most Used Driver: Accel (47.5%)
Also unrelated, but we need some help keeping the other sheets up to date! If you want to update one of the sheets for the other formats, just post here to let me and everyone else now you are working on it. Download a copy of the archive, update the list, send it to me, and I'll update the master archive that's linked to here. Thanks!
I'll post about this in the Organizers' Circle later, but I also spent a lot of time tonight finally updating the Tournament List Archive tab. There's some information missing from that I could use some help with too (particularly the missing participants/total battles numbers for a lot of events).
RE: Winning Combinations. - Alta - Oct. 25, 2015
Night of The Spinning Dead [October 24th, 2015] STD Round Robin
_______________________________________________________
1st place - Agent-312:
Death Horogium B:D
2nd place - Alta:
MSF-L Wyvang Dragooon BD145 RDF
3rd place - Thereaperyolo:
Scythe Aquario B:D
RE: Winning Combinations. - Yami - Oct. 26, 2015
Burst Onto The Scene: Maryland!
First Place: @[lawesomeness]
Ragnaruk Heavy Survive
......Yeah That Happened......Lol.....#Salty
Second Place: @[*Ginga*]
Wyvern Heavy Accel
Valkyrie Heavy Survive
Valkyrie Heavy Aceel
Yeah he's #Salty too
Third Place: Stars
Wyvern Spread Accel
Spriggan Spread Accel
DeathScythe Heavy Survive
Yeah I'm #Salty too
RE: Winning Combinations. - Angry Face - Oct. 26, 2015
(Oct. 26, 2015 2:57 AM)Stars Wrote: Burst Onto The Scene: Maryland!#ragnarekt
First Place: @[lawesomeness]
Ragnaruk Heavy Survive
Props to lawesomeness, but seriously how did this happen, ha ha? Did you guys just always use Wyvern and Deathscyther Accel combos against him?
RE: Winning Combinations. - Bey Brad - Oct. 26, 2015
I can totally imagine Ragnaruk bursting Deathscyther Spread Survive enough to win. Deathscyther's a bit prone to Bursting, and we didn't see a ton of DSS in Toronto because of that.
RE: Winning Combinations. - Kei - Oct. 26, 2015
LOL, it's even better because it was the only combo he won with.
I'm guessing Wyvern Accel couldn't outspin it? And nobody could Burst or KO it?? Wyvern Heavy/Spread Claw/Survive???
RE: Winning Combinations. - ThaKingTai - Oct. 26, 2015
So just right out of the box? Just like that? Wow. And Ragnaruk has been in the Winning Combos before, even though it's supposed to suck, lmao...
RE: Winning Combinations. - Yami - Oct. 26, 2015
DSS was worse it was either win it with a fresh Death Teeths or get rekt m8
I should've used Wyvern Spread Accel to beat it! IT WAS THE ONLY WAY!
RE: Winning Combinations. - Bey Brad - Oct. 26, 2015
Wyvern Spread Survive would've made quick work of it too, probably. If he was using it the whole tournament, you had plenty of time to prepare a counter-attack!
