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RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - 6Jupiter5 - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 1:34 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:(Aug. 14, 2020 1:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I think that infinite Achilles will be good with 3A attack combos
3A is an only left spin chassis, so that wouldn't work.
Edit: I got sniped by SunBlader98 and Vtryuga.
Oh yeah I keep on forgetting that 3A is left only.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - KinkoUsagi - Aug. 14, 2020
Y-I-K-E-S at the confirmed combo. Reused Chassis and driver? It looks great but come on, TT. . .
Now that it’s confirmed they’re taking the cheap route, the rest of the Beyblades will certainly suck, too. I’m expecting:
• Driger V, Draciel V and Gaia Dragoon V recolours (but with accidental wrong bit beast stickers)
• Xtend (just regular and no +), purple revolve, Keep’ and volcanic’, Yard (no metal), and Absorb’ (NEW! Whoa!)
• Super recolour (probably Super Valkyrie but that seems too cool, so probably Super Ragnaruk with a turquoise chip and a vomit yellow ring)
• No double chassis (they need those for future releases. Duh) & no GT gimmick discs (Around, Sting, etc.)
• ‘Cute’ throwback Beyblade or two (but not anything cool like Flare, Ch-Z Spriggan or Master). Think Wizard Diabolos2 or Archer Hercules
• No frames (only maybe one and it’s Glaive except the MFB remake)
• Even lower chance of pulling Achilles and it has a chance of coming with the wrong parts, too
(Infinite Achilles.1D.12.Revolve and no ‘union swords’, for example).• Galaxy Pegasus, but not a re-colour. Just the exact one you’ll get in December.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - 6Jupiter5 - Aug. 14, 2020
What are the rates for Achilles?
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Valtryek Aoi - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 2:39 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: What are the rates for Achilles?
None of that info has been released yet.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - NAP - Aug. 14, 2020
Infinite Achilles looks awesome.
Hopefully we get more info on this RB soon.
Can't wait to see the non-prize beys as well!
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Needforspeed - Aug. 14, 2020
Honestly i just hoping for a blue 2A chassis and red 2S chassis all recolors are really welcome as a new addition and I think we will get a bakuten or mfb beys maybe basalt horugium maybe idk for now its just speculation what i do hope is an choZ prefix bey recolor such as a blue CzS
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Izhkoort - Aug. 14, 2020
What i dont get is people complaining about of known information of the release format, we know all random booster don't have new disks chasis or driver now, we should focus on the booster's parts, because there are many parts that weren't released much and some of theme are pretty expensive thanks to that.
Example: I bought B-170 full set has my first superking bey, I was also going to buy ragnaruk only to have wheel, but because B-170 had it I didn't have to waste money buying ragnaruk.
I know it's a shame no many new parts, but I think beyblade is because it's meeting the end of the cycle, that means it gets more difficult to design new parts that are really different to old ones
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Needforspeed - Aug. 14, 2020
![[Image: image0.png]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720892797556752478/743839447505829979/image0.png)
images of infinite Achilles Dm' 1B
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - KinkoUsagi - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 2:51 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: What i dont get is people complaining about of known information of the release format, we know all random booster don't have new disks chasis or driver now, we should focus on the booster's parts, because there are many parts that weren't released much and some of theme are pretty expensive thanks to that.
Example: I bought B-170 full set has my first superking bey, I was also going to buy ragnaruk only to have wheel, but because B-170 had it I didn't have to waste money buying ragnaruk.
I know it's a shame no many new parts, but I think beyblade is because it's meeting the end of the cycle, that means it gets more difficult to design new parts that are really different to old ones
Yeah, no. Not buying it. It’s not that difficult to be creative and considering how creative they can be (Revive Phoenix, Variant Lucifer, Orb Aegis), it’s an excuse. Heck, most people aren’t even asking for creativity — just effort and not cutting corners. They can re-apply their strategy to the GT gimmick discs with Chassis (like they did with Drake —-> 3A) and people wouldn’t complain. 3B literally could’ve been Convert the Chassis (or any other reused gimmick like bound, metal ball, shock absorbent, etc.).
It’s to save money . TT has been increasing the costs while cutting corners and people are noticing.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Needforspeed - Aug. 14, 2020
Normal mode
![[Image: image1.jpg]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/680849595663646758/743735501768622120/image1.jpg)
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - g2_ - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 3:41 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Normal mode
The left sword is straight, the right one is slightly curved.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - JoMario67 - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 3:44 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Aug. 14, 2020 3:41 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Normal mode
The left sword is straight, the right one is slightly curved.
I think it's just the angle that makes it look that way. I don't see why TT would make an asymmetrical Achilles.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - g2_ - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 4:01 PM)JoMario67 Wrote:(Aug. 14, 2020 3:44 PM)g2_ Wrote: The left sword is straight, the right one is slightly curved.
I think it's just the angle that makes it look that way. I don't see why TT would make an asymmetrical Achilles.
I hope youre right.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - God Dragruler - Aug. 14, 2020
infinite Achilles looks great but really no 3b single chassis then just slap on convert on it infinite is basically a union upgrade what huge misoportunity and Dm' i had feeling that it would comeback it was either that or xtend+. I was just hopeful that it wouldn't be if it was Infinite Achilles 3B.Convert.Dm' I wouldn't complain see this sounds better jeez .
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - KerbeusKmie - Aug. 14, 2020
So random booster usually have around/almost the same weight in every combo for a volume right?(pls correct me if I'm wrong) so if Infinite Achilles gonna be heavy,how about the rest in the rbv?
Another reason I think why it not gonna have metal for the sword is gt(they want Longinus to be special bcs I remembered people complain about Longinus lost it special gimmick in cho-z)
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Izhkoort - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 3:37 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: Yeah, no. Not buying it. It’s not that difficult to be creative and considering how creative they can be (Revive Phoenix, Variant Lucifer, Orb Aegis), it’s an excuse. Heck, most people aren’t even asking for creativity — just effort and not cutting corners. They can re-apply their strategy to the GT gimmick discs with Chassis (like they did with Drake —-> 3A) and people wouldn’t complain. 3B literally could’ve been Convert the Chassis (or any other reused gimmick like bound, metal ball, shock absorbent, etc.).
It’s to save money . TT has been increasing the costs while cutting corners and people are noticing.
I think you are overstiimatiing how hard can be KEEPING yourself creative, it's not the same a couple of weeks on a project and being months or years on one, and doing it for work makes it more diffiicult. I may work with software, but I have to keep myself creative with deliivering solutions, is not has easy like you put it
Also adapting old gimmick can be creative only with the right approach, done wrong would feel cheap and could damage the product image (for example: imagine if the first Bearing didn't work properly, it's a very anticiipated driver, it would be a pproblem)
At last, Drake and 3A for me are REALLY different things, just because they try to put Longinus' dragon design on all iit's parts doesn't mean is the same gimmick/part, if that's how you see iit, the layer weight of zwei longinus would be "the same" too
Increasing the cost and cuttiing corners is a MARKETING decision, not a DESIGN decision. But may it could be also the effects of the pandemic AND what I said: ending of the cycle, whiich could mean they want the most profit of beyblades lasts beyblades
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - YggdrasilWyvern - Aug. 14, 2020
Although it could have been a new double-chassis, I'm excited for this RBV. Seeing IAc with a double-chassis might mean the other beys in this RBV have heavier and better parts. I know something new would've been nice but we haven't really had any re-releases of any double-chassis until TDr. Just seeing that a double-chassis will likely be included in the next RBV has me hopeful that this one will be better than the last
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Legend Red Eye - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 8:22 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Infinite Achilles Dm' 1B https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680850717589635088/743730104881905694/image0.png
I called the Dm' it was obvious but 1B? I didn't see that one coming...thanks for the news.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - KinkoUsagi - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 4:56 PM)Izhkoort Wrote:(Aug. 14, 2020 3:37 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: Yeah, no. Not buying it. It’s not that difficult to be creative and considering how creative they can be (Revive Phoenix, Variant Lucifer, Orb Aegis), it’s an excuse. Heck, most people aren’t even asking for creativity — just effort and not cutting corners. They can re-apply their strategy to the GT gimmick discs with Chassis (like they did with Drake —-> 3A) and people wouldn’t complain. 3B literally could’ve been Convert the Chassis (or any other reused gimmick like bound, metal ball, shock absorbent, etc.).
It’s to save money . TT has been increasing the costs while cutting corners and people are noticing.
I think you are overstiimatiing how hard can be KEEPING yourself creative, it's not the same a couple of weeks on a project and being months or years on one, and doing it for work makes it more diffiicult. I may work with software, but I have to keep myself creative with deliivering solutions, is not has easy like you put it
Also adapting old gimmick can be creative only with the right approach, done wrong would feel cheap and could damage the product image (for example: imagine if the first Bearing didn't work properly, it's a very anticiipated driver, it would be a pproblem)
At last, Drake and 3A for me are REALLY different things, just because they try to put Longinus' dragon design on all iit's parts doesn't mean is the same gimmick/part, if that's how you see iit, the layer weight of zwei longinus would be "the same" too
1) Sorry. I just don't agree. They've been reusing drivers all season long -- the least they could do is change the shape of a Chassis and dub it a new one. Didn't say it was easy but if they want to keep Burst relevant and people purchasing products (at higher costs), they need less Random Booster 21 (which was despised for a reason).
2) Cheaper than re-using the same? This argument is silly, honestly. Many of their gimmicks don't work as intended and people are fine with them, overall. Vise Leopard obviously would never work but it was fun and different. TT does this stuff all the time and I can cite numerous examples (e.g., Low driver for something more recent).
3) They really aren't REALLY different things. The concept is the same, essentially. Convert into a Chassis would just involve the Chassis shifting to create a weight imbalance. Not that inventive or difficult but effective and new.
4) Glad to hear it's a MARKETING decision and not a DESIGN decision. I had no idea and I also had no idea neither team had any direction when making the choices they make, either /sarcasm. I guess we can't criticize Hasbro anymore either because it's SO HARD TO BE CREATIVE.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Suzaku-X - Aug. 14, 2020
I'm going to be honest, since Infinite has 2 new parts, I guess they probably just reused 1B to stash a new remake with a new layer in here, since Diavolos had 3 new parts between them.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Lugiamaster0249 - Aug. 14, 2020
(Jul. 29, 2020 7:26 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: This will be spriggan... Don't quote... I just have a feeling about itSpriggan comes in a single booster, no launcher.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - SupaDav03 - Aug. 14, 2020
Well I pretty much called this combo as soon as Spriggan got the solo release & Achilles got bumped to RBV.
I said Achilles would get the “Dragon treatment” and get a reused 1B double chassis like how TDr got recolored 1A.
Also called Dm’ as the driver as it was pretty obvious if you followed the pattern of driver releases for the Achilles line.
All that being said, I’m not disappointed in this at all.
Dm’ needed another release outside the pricey GT Triple Booster and 1B is a very good (but under appreciated) double chassis. The new ring & chip look great. Not sure why people are complaining about the shape? Looks more useful than Tempest. Also, I like that there is a Union Sword-style gimmick to it.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - Logic123ABC - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 6:49 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Well I pretty much called this combo as soon as Spriggan got the solo release & Achilles got bumped to RBV.
I said Achilles would get the “Dragon treatment” and get a reused 1B double chassis like how TDr got recolored 1A.
Also called Dm’ as the driver as it was pretty obvious if you followed the pattern of driver releases for the Achilles line.
All that being said, I’m not disappointed in this at all.
Dm’ needed another release outside the pricey GT Triple Booster and 1B is a very good (but under appreciated) double chassis. The new ring & chip look great. Not sure why people are complaining about the shape? Looks more useful than Tempest. Also, I like that there is a Union Sword-style gimmick to it.
Yeah my thought's exactly. I've been testing 1B with Dimension', and I honestly think this'll be a good stock combo beyblade. I just wish every one would stop saying, "It should be this, It should be that!". It's not like TT is going to change the combo, and all it is doing is cluttering this thread. Also the fact that TT is giving it a double chassis is Amazing, since I personally thought they were going to make this new Achilles trash. 1B really isn't that weird, since for the most part Infinite seems to cover it's contact points, so in all honesty, it's kind of like if TT gave it meteor (Apologies if that made no sense.)
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - KinkoUsagi - Aug. 14, 2020
(Aug. 14, 2020 7:08 PM)Logic123ABC Wrote: Yeah my thought's exactly. I've been testing 1B with Dimension', and I honestly think this'll be a good stock combo beyblade. I just wish every one would stop saying, "It should be this, It should be that!". It's not like TT is going to change the combo, and all it is doing is cluttering this thread.
And talking about people voicing their concerns and frustrations is not cluttering the thread, as well?
People are reacting to the news. You don't have to agree with them, but just as people were positive and excited about the reveal of Spriggan (which, let's be honest, is a-mazing) and posted their opinions about that in the Spriggan thread, doesn't mean we can't do something similar in this thread.
You can like Infinite Achilles. I think the chip and ring look great so far and I like the union gimmick (even though it had mixed reactions from the community when it was announced for GT). The fact that this is a prize Beyblade of a booster, one of the main characters, it seems cheaper than normal AND shortly after the release of Random Booster 21 (TT's maximum cheapness, money grab) makes sense people are reacting the way they are.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Balance - XXSYPHERXX - Aug. 14, 2020
I honestly hope there will be metal on this layer instead of doing what the did to union don't get me wrong i loved union and it was fine but it would be very disappointing if this was just union converted into sparking format.