(Apr. 05, 2021  3:44 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I mean, by logic I would say Kenta because Kenta inherited all of Rouge’s power. It was more so a lack of understanding. In terms of power Kenta was definitely the strongest individual force since it’s effectively his own power + all of Ryuga’s. He was even able to contend with Nemesis all on his own with no resistance or damage received while the other legends were teaming and getting flung back in single blows.

He didn’t inherit Ryuga’s power, but more so inherited his Star fragment. Also Nemesis is a bad example as that 230 definitely caught it off guard (not to mention it’s perfect advertising for the bey). There’s nothing really implying that Kenta inherited Ryuga’s power.

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:34 PM)MasterChef Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I mean, by logic I would say Kenta because Kenta inherited all of Rouge’s power. It was more so a lack of understanding. In terms of power Kenta was definitely the strongest individual force since it’s effectively his own power + all of Ryuga’s. He was even able to contend with Nemesis all on his own with no resistance or damage received while the other legends were teaming and getting flung back in single blows.

Kenta was able to be equal with Rago in episode 140, but in 141, even with Rygua's power and the rest 9 legenddary bladers, he got demolised. So him fihting Nemisis equally isn't a good example in my opinion.

(Apr. 05, 2021  2:13 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  1:40 AM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Dragruler, in fact, I agree with all your statements.

As for Zeutron, winning a final battle doesn't make someone stronger. Ryuga has more wins that Gingka has. If we measure the feats of power between the two, Ryuga stands superior.

And can anyone explain, what would Mr.Hagane do if Ryuga uses his Ultimate Move?

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That's true. What I'm saying is that Gingka is either a fingernail lvl weaker than him or equal to Ryuga. The only person who is flat out stronger than Ryuga is Rago

In the manga Gingka actually battled stronger opponents and had a similar win rate. Beating someone one time at their peak is a good indidcator of who is stronger. Having a good record is a bad way of determining who is stronger because records work relevant to time, long term circumstance and number of battles while present victories don’t always do that. By that logic Gingka with the powers of all the bladers in the world would be weaker than Ryuga since he only won once but we know that isn’t true.

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Honestly in terms of the anime: Rago<Gingka (Zero-g) < Kenta (legend) < Ryuga (metal fury). Kenta should have been stronger too.

(Apr. 05, 2021  2:41 AM)MasterChef Wrote: In Metal Fight the strongest ranking, my Top 10 list goes like:
Rago
Gingka or Rygua
Rygua or Gingka
Kyoya
Kenta
Chris
King
Masemunae
Tiffy
Aguma

What are your guys Top 10 strongest list?

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:12 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I don’t think Kenta has surpassed Ryuga yet. Sure he scratched L-drago, but he’s still got a long way to go. I don’t agree with everything thing, so here’s my list (at the peak of each blader’s individual power):
0. Benkei
1. Rago
2. Gingka
3. Ryuga
4. Chris (you could argue on this, but Gingka in fury just barely managed to win and that too because I believe Chris allowed him to ring him out and BD is op)
5. Kyoya
6. Kenta
7. Aguma (again I could see a case against this, but he’s a master tactician and Scythe has some pretty good parts)
8. King (Left and Right spin as well as 3 modes. That’s one strong bey)
9. Masamune (can’t not mention him if I’ve mentioned King. This man almost beat him, and while it was in a different stadium, but blader’s became used to it so it was a fair fight)
10. Faust

Dynamis didn’t make it since he has only won 2 battles that too to rather weaker bladers
Tithi didn’t make it since he’s still a child (granted everyone’s also a child, but he’s much younger. What this means is that he still has a lot of potential)
Yuki doesn’t make it since his wins are with Gingka only or are rather unimpressive

I mean, by logic I would say Kenta because Kenta inherited all of Rouge’s power. It was more so a lack of understanding. In terms of power Kenta was definitely the strongest individual force since it’s effectively his own power + all of Ryuga’s. He was even able to contend with Nemesis all on his own with no resistance or damage received while the other legends were teaming and getting flung back in single blows.

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:34 PM)MasterChef Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I mean, by logic I would say Kenta because Kenta inherited all of Rouge’s power. It was more so a lack of understanding. In terms of power Kenta was definitely the strongest individual force since it’s effectively his own power + all of Ryuga’s. He was even able to contend with Nemesis all on his own with no resistance or damage received while the other legends were teaming and getting flung back in single blows.

Kenta was able to be equal with Rago in episode 140, but in 141, even with Rygua's power and the rest 9 legenddary bladers, he got demolised. So him fihting Nemisis equally isn't a good example in my opinion.

(Apr. 05, 2021  4:32 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:44 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: He didn’t inherit Ryuga’s power, but more so inherited his Star fragment. Also Nemesis is a bad example as that 230 definitely caught it off guard (not to mention it’s perfect advertising for the bey). There’s nothing really implying that Kenta inherited Ryuga’s power.

Ah right, it does seem like he particularly inherited the fragment but, I still believe he is better nonetheless. As for 230, yes it did catch Rago off guard but utilization of bey capabilities should honestly count towards power to an extent. After all, he used an attack and retreat pattern when fighting nemesis (when Sagittario attacked, it lowered its fusion wheel leaving it exposed before moving upright to tank the hits). When Rago brought out his aura, Kenta did the same and was able to match him . Advertisement or not, he was actually able to damage Rago whilst Ryuga was getting toyed with. Besides, it seemed to me like one of the key points of giving Kenta an evolution was to showcase his succession of Ryuga.

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(Apr. 05, 2021  3:34 PM)MasterChef Wrote: Kenta was able to be equal with Rago in episode 140, but in 141, even with Rygua's power and the rest 9 legenddary bladers, he got demolised. So him fihting Nemisis equally isn't a good example in my opinion.

 
I suppose so, but hadn’t Nemesis gotten stronger by that point seeing as the world was closer to being consumed by its darkness?

(Apr. 05, 2021  7:34 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  2:13 AM)Zeutron Wrote: In the manga Gingka actually battled stronger opponents and had a similar win rate. Beating someone one time at their peak is a good indidcator of who is stronger. Having a good record is a bad way of determining who is stronger because records work relevant to time, long term circumstance and number of battles while present victories don’t always do that. By that logic Gingka with the powers of all the bladers in the world would be weaker than Ryuga since he only won once but we know that isn’t true.

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Honestly in terms of the anime: Rago<Gingka (Zero-g) < Kenta (legend) < Ryuga (metal fury). Kenta should have been stronger too.

it was only a momentary boost,  not forever. He only got that boost for a time being so he could defeat Rago. Ryuga is on par with Gingka, but his feats are mightier by a thousandfold.

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(Apr. 05, 2021  2:41 AM)MasterChef Wrote: In Metal Fight the strongest ranking, my Top 10 list goes like:
Rago
Gingka or Rygua
Rygua or Gingka
Kyoya
Kenta
Chris
King
Masemunae
Tiffy
Aguma

What are your guys Top 10 strongest list?

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I mean, by logic I would say Kenta because Kenta inherited all of Rouge’s power. It was more so a lack of understanding. In terms of power Kenta was definitely the strongest individual force since it’s effectively his own power + all of Ryuga’s. He was even able to contend with Nemesis all on his own with no resistance or damage received while the other legends were teaming and getting flung back in single blows.

(Apr. 05, 2021  3:34 PM)MasterChef Wrote: Kenta was able to be equal with Rago in episode 140, but in 141, even with Rygua's power and the rest 9 legenddary bladers, he got demolised. So him fihting Nemisis equally isn't a good example in my opinion.

(Apr. 05, 2021  4:32 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Ah right, it does seem like he particularly inherited the fragment but, I still believe he is better nonetheless. As for 230, yes it did catch Rago off guard but utilization of bey capabilities should honestly count towards power to an extent. After all, he used an attack and retreat pattern when fighting nemesis (when Sagittario attacked, it lowered its fusion wheel leaving it exposed before moving upright to tank the hits). When Rago brought out his aura, Kenta did the same and was able to match him . Advertisement or not, he was actually able to damage Rago whilst Ryuga was getting toyed with. Besides, it seemed to me like one of the key points of giving Kenta an evolution was to showcase his succession of Ryuga.

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I suppose so, but hadn’t Nemesis gotten stronger by that point seeing as the world was closer to being consumed by its darkness?

1. Kenta didn't receive Ryuga's Power. It's not possible to give someone your power and your knowledge and your talent.
2. Gingka having the whole mfb world's power was only a MOMENTARY BOOST>
3. Kenta is the successor of Ryuga. Ryuga just acknoledged Kenta's efforts. The successor of Ryuga is Sakyo.
4. Ryuga was in fact not getting that much toyed with. In the starting, Ryuga almost managed to fling Nemesis out of the stadium. And, when nemesis delivered a attack and Ryuga stood back up, Rago was shocked and said, "You can still stand?!" And, when Rago used Armaggedon, he said, "You have done well to stand agaisnt nemesis for so long". Any other blader fighting Rago alone would've got bodied.
5. Kenta only stood agaisnt Rago for some time because it was shocking that Kenta had gotten the SUmmer Star Fragment, and Rago didn't even know Kenta's new bey's powers yet. When he got to know his powers, then even kenta got trashed again and again.
6.Kenta wasn't equal to Ryuga's power, just barely able to stand agaisnt him. Ryuga destroyed him with his special move more brutally than he did to Gingka. Kenta only managed to SRATCH Ryuga's bey..]
7. Again, KENTA DID NOT RECEIVE Ryuga's powers
8.This is my MFB List on INDIVIDUAL POWER

1. Rago
2. Gingka and Ryuga (tied, either can win)
3. King and Chris (Tied)
4. Kyoya and Kenta (tied)
5. Dynamis
6. Titi
7. Faust
8.Yuki
9. Damian
10. Reji

(Apr. 05, 2021  11:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What would a Metal fight big 5 excluding Rago look like?

(Apr. 05, 2021  11:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What would a Metal fight big 5 excluding Rago look like?

(Apr. 05, 2021  11:31 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  11:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What would a Metal fight big 5 excluding Rago look like?

In all honestly Gingka, Ryuga, Kenta, Kira (Synchrome with Gingka) and Zyro (Synchrome with Shinobu). If no synchrome is involved then maybe Chris and Kyoya take those places. Zero-g characters are crazy underrated. People really lead themselves to believe that the solar system bladers are good but they aren’t all that great. King is the only one that’s particularly good.

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:14 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: well since everyone talking about mfb.  I'll jump on the chu chu train lol . now personally I don't think kenta became stronger than ryuga at best kenta had reach kyouya level although if we go by the end kyouya supposedly beat kenta and the other legends that was his self goal to them challenge gingka which he was about to do . now kenta definitely is top 5 strongest by the end of mfb which by way is wild if one have been watching mfb from the start.  theirs one thing I'll say kenta probably had the most potential to be strongest his growth under ryuga is insane just imagine him still staying next to ryuga for a year.  kenta would've been a better choice as the main for fury or zero g should've focus on him instead still keep the zero g squad & reduce the timrskip.  now my top 10 is pretty simple.  rago,  gingka,  ryuga,  kyouya, Chris , kenta, king,  aguma,  tithi & between masamune. tsubasa, dunamis or yu the can be interchangeable for me.  even though I think being a legend makes top 10 cause of that power boost from the start fragment but I refuse to acknowledge yuki I'm going to be brutal with this one the star fragment was wasted on him .  well that's about it I guess

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:14 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: well since everyone talking about mfb.  I'll jump on the chu chu train lol . now personally I don't think kenta became stronger than ryuga at best kenta had reach kyouya level although if we go by the end kyouya supposedly beat kenta and the other legends that was his self goal to them challenge gingka which he was about to do . now kenta definitely is top 5 strongest by the end of mfb which by way is wild if one have been watching mfb from the start.  theirs one thing I'll say kenta probably had the most potential to be strongest his growth under ryuga is insane just imagine him still staying next to ryuga for a year.  kenta would've been a better choice as the main for fury or zero g should've focus on him instead still keep the zero g squad & reduce the timrskip.  now my top 10 is pretty simple.  rago,  gingka,  ryuga,  kyouya, Chris , kenta, king,  aguma,  tithi & between masamune. tsubasa, dunamis or yu the can be interchangeable for me.  even though I think being a legend makes top 10 cause of that power boost from the start fragment but I refuse to acknowledge yuki I'm going to be brutal with this one the star fragment was wasted on him .  well that's about it I guess

Honestly I think Yu and Dynamis are pretty bad too. Dynamis got one shotted by Pluto (Pluto caught him off guard, but it’s still pretty pathetic IMO). Tsubasa, Kyoya, Kenta, Gingka, Ryuga, Chris and King are definitely top 10 but I would also throw in Faust. It require the combined efforts of peak Metal Masters Gingka and Masamune to beat him and he was also powering the spiral force at the same time. He’s another one of those ridiculously amped characters. Tithi seems pretty good too, but we don’t have too much on him. Would still put him in the top 10 for the sake of it though. I don’t think Aguma is top 10 material since he was always getting punked but Masamune might be, I feel like Masamune is def better than Dynamis/Yu/Yuki but I don’t think he beats Tithi, could probably beat Aguma though.

Anyone down to make a joint tier list together? We wouldn’t be able to make it on a website so we could just name the characters here.

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:48 AM)MasterChef Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Honestly I think Yu and Dynamis are pretty bad too. Dynamis got one shotted by Pluto (Pluto caught him off guard, but it’s still pretty pathetic IMO). Tsubasa, Kyoya, Kenta, Gingka, Ryuga, Chris and King are definitely top 10 but I would also throw in Faust. It require the combined efforts of peak Metal Masters Gingka and Masamune to beat him and he was also powering the spiral force at the same time. He’s another one of those ridiculously amped characters. Tithi seems pretty good too, but we don’t have too much on him. Would still put him in the top 10 for the sake of it though. I don’t think Aguma is top 10 material since he was always getting punked but Masamune might be, I feel like Masamune is def better than Dynamis/Yu/Yuki but I don’t think he beats Tithi, could probably beat Aguma though.

Anyone down to make a joint tier list together? We wouldn’t be able to make it on a website so we could just name the characters here.

Okay, for the teirs we could put put SS to E.
SS-Beyond Superior
S-Legendary
A-Ultimate/Very Good
B-Good/Avrage
C-Bad
D-Very Weak
E-Out of Question
Thats my part, tommarow I will come back and tell where a blader can go.

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2021  3:14 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: well since everyone talking about mfb.  I'll jump on the chu chu train lol . now personally I don't think kenta became stronger than ryuga at best kenta had reach kyouya level although if we go by the end kyouya supposedly beat kenta and the other legends that was his self goal to them challenge gingka which he was about to do . now kenta definitely is top 5 strongest by the end of mfb which by way is wild if one have been watching mfb from the start.  theirs one thing I'll say kenta probably had the most potential to be strongest his growth under ryuga is insane just imagine him still staying next to ryuga for a year.  kenta would've been a better choice as the main for fury or zero g should've focus on him instead still keep the zero g squad & reduce the timrskip.  now my top 10 is pretty simple.  rago,  gingka,  ryuga,  kyouya, Chris , kenta, king,  aguma,  tithi & between masamune. tsubasa, dunamis or yu the can be interchangeable for me.  even though I think being a legend makes top 10 cause of that power boost from the start fragment but I refuse to acknowledge yuki I'm going to be brutal with this one the star fragment was wasted on him .  well that's about it I guess

Honestly I think Yu and Dynamis are pretty bad too. Dynamis got one shotted by Pluto (Pluto caught him off guard, but it’s still pretty pathetic IMO). Tsubasa, Kyoya, Kenta, Gingka, Ryuga, Chris and King are definitely top 10 but I would also throw in Faust. It require the combined efforts of peak Metal Masters Gingka and Masamune to beat him and he was also powering the spiral force at the same time. He’s another one of those ridiculously amped characters. Tithi seems pretty good too, but we don’t have too much on him. Would still put him in the top 10 for the sake of it though. I don’t think Aguma is top 10 material since he was always getting punked but Masamune might be, I feel like Masamune is def better than Dynamis/Yu/Yuki but I don’t think he beats Tithi, could probably beat Aguma though.

Anyone down to make a joint tier list together? We wouldn’t be able to make it on a website so we could just name the characters here.

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:15 AM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Is Zero-G even good?

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:15 AM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Is Zero-G even good?

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:25 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:15 AM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Is Zero-G even good?

Personally, I liked it but I’m not the majority. Of course, you could watch it yourself and find out but the general answer is no, it’s not good.

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:46 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:25 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Personally, I liked it but I’m not the majority. Of course, you could watch it yourself and find out but the general answer is no, it’s not good.

I actually think that most of the people liked it. This isn’t necessarily includon game community members, but old watchers.

(Apr. 06, 2021  4:13 AM)eggblader Wrote: something random: if carl (the parrot) and harry (the hedgehog) had a kid. oohhhh wait they both boys.

(Apr. 05, 2021  11:15 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Apr. 05, 2021  7:34 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: it was only a momentary boost,  not forever. He only got that boost for a time being so he could defeat Rago. Ryuga is on par with Gingka, but his feats are mightier by a thousandfold.

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1. Kenta didn't receive Ryuga's Power. It's not possible to give someone your power and your knowledge and your talent.
2. Gingka having the whole mfb world's power was only a MOMENTARY BOOST>
3. Kenta is the successor of Ryuga. Ryuga just acknoledged Kenta's efforts. The successor of Ryuga is Sakyo.
4. Ryuga was in fact not getting that much toyed with. In the starting, Ryuga almost managed to fling Nemesis out of the stadium. And, when nemesis delivered a attack and Ryuga stood back up, Rago was shocked and said, "You can still stand?!" And, when Rago used Armaggedon, he said, "You have done well to stand agaisnt nemesis for so long". Any other blader fighting Rago alone would've got bodied.
5. Kenta only stood agaisnt Rago for some time because it was shocking that Kenta had gotten the SUmmer Star Fragment, and Rago didn't even know Kenta's new bey's powers yet. When he got to know his powers, then even kenta got trashed again and again.
6.Kenta wasn't equal to Ryuga's power, just barely able to stand agaisnt him. Ryuga destroyed him with his special move more brutally than he did to Gingka. Kenta only managed to SRATCH Ryuga's bey..]
7. Again, KENTA DID NOT RECEIVE Ryuga's powers
8.This is my MFB List on INDIVIDUAL POWER

1. Rago
2. Gingka and Ryuga (tied, either can win)
3. King and Chris (Tied)
4. Kyoya and Kenta (tied)
5. Dynamis
6. Titi
7. Faust
8.Yuki
9. Damian
10. Reji

1: Yeah, it doesn’t seem like power can be exchanged (can be taken though) I was wrong.

2: I know it was but as a result of that, that version of Gingka is its whole own carnation that happens to be far beyond Ryuga.

3: He kind of is “a” successor of Ryuga, just not “the” successor. Seeing as he inherited Ryuga’s star fragment, it’s clear that he’s definitely a successor of sorts.

4: Pluto stated multiple times that Nemesis wasn’t even using half its power all while Rago and Pluto laughed in his face. Knocking a bey tha isn’t even using half its strength back isn’t all that impressive tbh. He did say that Ryuga has done well to last as long as he did because that’s what he legitimately believed, doesn’t really change the fact that Rago wasn’t trying though.

5: Rago only beat Kenta after the black sun had nearly consumed the world and by that point, he would have been more powerful. Besides, Rago hadn’t faced many of the legends and normal bladers that were there at that point but he was still crushing them. Kenta being is surprise was nearly as much of a surprise as anyone else tbh. When Madonna talks about Saggitario’s evolution Rago even says “That doesn’t matter” before engaging Kenta in an aura battle (which Kenta seemingly won).

6: Yeah but that was before the star fragment and evolution, pre evolution Kenta and legend Kenta are definitely different storywise. Kenta leaving that gash in L-Drago’s face bolt was pretty cool, one of the very few people capable of damaging L-Drago in that brief moment.

Your crazy if you put Dynamis at 5, dude only ever beat Ryuto on his own (also bad) and he got one shotted by Pluto. Yuki also isn’t that great, mostly piggybacks off of Gingka. Being a legend doesn’t really make you a top 10 blader tbh, but being a good one does.