(Nov. 14, 2020  12:57 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:51 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: Shu beat Aiga and Aiga’s record vs Valt that season was 2-1 so please lmk what ur tryna say

Shu beat Aiger and two episodes later Valt defeated Hearts who was throwing Aiger around like a rag doll. In fact that was Shu's only win during the season. So I don't think Shu's win against Aiger supports him being stronger than Valt given that Valt defeated an even stronger blader than Aiger two episodes later.

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:59 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 13, 2020  8:58 PM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: Bro you’re clearly just saying stuff atp. I never said Free coincidentally injured himself, but it shouldn’t even matter how he did an injury is an injury. Also Shu and Free were the top 2 strongest in Evo as Free only lost once and Shu twice. Valt was lucky to even make it to the finals as he relied in Cuza then a Free injury. Also how are you going to tell me Free vs Aiga isn’t valid but you’re bringing up S2?

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3rd season is definitely Shu. All Valt did was take L’s from Aiga and Valt’s biggest feat was beating Hearts who is the most overrated Blader ever. (As hearts only 2 wins were against Aiga)

Strength is defined by how strong a blader is at various intervals through the series or particular moments, not their record and their feats, kinda obvious. Free vs Aiga isn’t valid because I was talking about their strength in sparking, not s3 and when I brought up s2 I was talking about how Shu and Valt were stronger in that specific season. Another thing, is that while Valt did rely on Cuza, he got stronger during the competition itself, like when reboot got destroyed prompting him to get a new drive or when he got the strike god chip. I know you never said free coincidentally lost to an injury but what else were you supposed to mean? I was trying to say that Free couldn’t win that battle since his arm was guaranteed to break due to his new blading style, but if we count it as Valt getting lucky then it would be considered a matter of probability and chance making in a coincidence but that’s definitely not the case. There is not outcome where Free would have won that, that’s like saying you would beat me in a race had you not taken a dangerous shortcut that was guaranteed to leave you injured.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:00 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:57 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Shu beat Aiger and two episodes later Valt defeated Hearts who was throwing Aiger around like a rag doll. In fact that was Shu's only win during the season. So I don't think Shu's win against Aiger supports him being stronger than Valt given that Valt defeated an even stronger blader than Aiger two episodes later.

Valt got his Bey broken by Aiga. After that Shu demolished Aiga 4-0. Also u can’t blame Shu for his amount of battles.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:03 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:00 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: Valt got his Bey broken by Aiga. After that Shu demolished Aiga 4-0. Also u can’t blame Shu for his amount of battles.

Shu's amount of battles isn't really the point but the people he's battled. Your using Shu's win and Valt's loss against Aiger as the basis, but shortly after Shu defeated Aiger, Valt defeated a blader stronger than Aiger himself.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:08 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:03 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Shu's amount of battles isn't really the point but the people he's battled. Your using Shu's win and Valt's loss against Aiger as the basis, but shortly after Shu defeated Aiger, Valt defeated a blader stronger than Aiger himself.

If that’s how u put it what do u say to Valt losing to Aiga in the last episode, the same Aiga the beat hearts?

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:08 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: If that’s how u put it what do u say to Valt losing to Aiga in the last episode, the same Aiga the beat hearts?

We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote: We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.

Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote: We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.

Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:17 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times

They only had a single one on one battle after Turbo Achilles was created. The rest were battle royales.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:18 AM)EarthHelios Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:17 AM)Admiral W Wrote: They only had a single one on one battle after Turbo Achilles was created. The rest were battle royales.

True but they still count as Wins

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:19 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:18 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: True but they still count as Wins

A battle royale isn't a true test of strength. The best for those is a one on one.

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:02 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:59 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Strength is defined by how strong a blader is at various intervals through the series or particular moments, not their record and their feats, kinda obvious. Free vs Aiga isn’t valid because I was talking about their strength in sparking, not s3 and when I brought up s2 I was talking about how Shu and Valt were stronger in that specific season. Another thing, is that while Valt did rely on Cuza, he got stronger during the competition itself, like when reboot got destroyed prompting him to get a new drive or when he got the strike god chip. I know you never said free coincidentally lost to an injury but what else were you supposed to mean? I was trying to say that Free couldn’t win that battle since his arm was guaranteed to break due to his new blading style, but if we count it as Valt getting lucky then it would be considered a matter of probability and chance making in a coincidence but that’s definitely not the case. There is not outcome where Free would have won that, that’s like saying you would beat me in a race had you not taken a dangerous shortcut that was guaranteed to leave you injured.

Free injurying himself was clearly a coincidence. He literally did the same thing against Lui so why does the situation change now? So when Shu injured his ar, in the last episode are u going to say it was on purpose?

(Nov. 14, 2020  1:21 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: harry is the mastermind

(Nov. 16, 2020  12:53 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: https://giphy.com/channel/gifEclipse

Awesome Hikaru panel from the manga, check out my latest post to see it (yes I know its on giphy whatever)

(Nov. 16, 2020  1:05 AM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Nov. 16, 2020  12:53 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: https://giphy.com/channel/gifEclipse

Awesome Hikaru panel from the manga, check out my latest post to see it (yes I know its on giphy whatever)

From what I understand, in the manga Hikaru and Aiger battled, do you have the panels by any chance?

(Nov. 16, 2020  1:07 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 16, 2020  1:05 AM)Admiral W Wrote: From what I understand, in the manga Hikaru and Aiger battled, do you have the panels by any chance?

Oh I got the entire chapter. I'll pm it to you.

(Nov. 16, 2020  1:07 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Nov. 16, 2020  1:05 AM)Admiral W Wrote: From what I understand, in the manga Hikaru and Aiger battled, do you have the panels by any chance?

Oh I got the entire chapter. I'll pm it to you.