(Oct. 16, 2020  1:39 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: Honestly, I'd have said our news post the other day covers our reasons and motives for doing this. So let me break the specifics of the complaints down here.

Advance apologies if I come across a little abrasive here. As you can imagine, myself and the team have had to deal with enough backlash from this decision. We're a little bit tired.

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: What the hell is even the point of this website then? I didn't think the admins would be so stupid to kill literally the only things the forum was being used for LMAO.

Do you seriously think the site exists solely to promote piracy. Are you disregarding the amount of product, parts, testing, marketplace and fanfic discussion we get? Perhaps even the Competitive Play environment that we pride ourselves on so much?

To say that the WBO exists solely to promote the piracy of anime and manga is just inherently unfair and offensive to those who put the work in to maintain or contribute to it. While we love having everyone around and pride ourselves on being the place to be for Beyblade discussion; if you really don't like our platform, you are more than welcome to take a break or leave.

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: I was already appalled at you banning leaks but okay, in the end I don't really care about that stuff that much so whatever. But preventing Dranzer to post episodes as well? Are you serious? Do you never stream anime?

I do actually. I pay for streaming services and everything I watch is done legally, using legitimately endorsed services. If I can't watch something via those services (so if it's not available via Netflix, Prime Video, Crunchyroll or Funimation), I just don't watch it. It wasn't meant to be.

Do you stream anime and manga? Are you telling me that you solely do it illegally? While you might never get chased up for it, I can't emphasise enough that unofficial sources are indisputably piracy, and therefore illegal.

Do you also download or stream films illegitimately after they're released? Same principle. That breaks copyright and is therefore illegal.

If the principle of us upholding the law is appalling and pathetic to you, I think you need to think about this a bit deeper.

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: Best part is that  there wasn't even any catalyst that would leave you no choice, you just decided on a whim.  I guess you're trying to look professional by using inappropriate buzzwords ("please support the official release", LOL). How does forcing people buy a VPN to watch in on youtube support them?

We legally registered as a not-for-profit business late last year and we're slowly reading up on what is allowed, what isn't allowed. So yes, it has taken us time to reach this point and make the move, but I think the actions of certain businesses have definitely prompted this. It's easy to turn a blind eye, but when Takara-Tomy have indeed been going around taking down leakers (yes, not leaks. Individuals or sites that are hosting or spreading the leaks), that's really kinda difficult to ignore, no?

Fighting Spirits, the World Beyblade Organization; as staff, we have a huge responsibility to protect the organization and the community from the risk of any legal action happening. And quite frankly, as I said to some individuals in our Discord too; some of us are legally tied to the organization too. And I'm certainly not interested in taking the fall because people want to look at news a day early or want to watch Beyblade anime that is available for free online anyway illegally.

It's basic business sense. For 11 years, we didn't really think too much about any of this stuff. After being forced into registering as a legal entity last year, yes, obviously we have to care. This wasn't decided on a whim by any means, and it was legitimately an exceedingly difficult pill for us to swallow, albeit one that needed to be done.

"How does forcing people buy a VPN to watch in on youtube support them?" Again, I cannot stress enough that the Beyblade anime is available for free online. You don't pay to access it. And viewing via a VPN, if CoroCoro/TT do show advertisements, you'll see them and they'll actually get the financial support from it.

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:26 AM)Limetka Wrote: You're just making them wait an additional 10 hours for it to hit streaming sites. I like watching new episodes in the morning, so this really is nothing but a giant annoyance.  Wow. Well done. Really great! Pat yourself and other mods on the back for a job well done!

Glad to hear that our attempt to prevent piracy is working! Thanks for your feedback, I'll give the staff team the good news!

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:45 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: I sorta understand, but at the same time banning RAW posting and potentially even the subs are possibly the worst decision they could EVER make

I get Japan us getting stricter, yeah yeah yeah, and you guys wanna be legally clear, but you’ve been doing this for so damn long and now you make this change?

That's a legitimate point, and obviously the precedent set for the past 11 years doesn't help with enforcing this point. But I think wanting to be legally clear is a good enough reason as any; bottom line, it is piracy and needed to be enforced at some point. Just now more than ever, it's certainly essential to do.

We're aware that this isn't and won't ever be a popular change. We've been fully prepared for the backlash on this decision, almost dreading it because we don't ever want to disappoint our community. But the fact of the matter is that leaving it untouched is essentially promoting illegal activity, and we certainly don't endorse that at all.

(Oct. 16, 2020  11:45 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: You guys have been fine, yeah it’s illegal, but it’s not our fault that good VPN’s are hard to get, even they they sometimes won’t work. My point is: you’ve been doing it for so long and have been fine, why stop now?

Again, "yeah it's illegal" is reason enough to enforce that. Did we really need another reason to do so? The law is typically a really good reason to either do or not do something, haha.

Good VPNs being hard to get isn't our fault either. And, while it's not exactly what I want to say, it's really not our problem either. The most we can do is point people in the right direction to do this legally, and if "use a VPN" is a message we need to send, that's what we need to do. If people have suggestions of VPNs for each other, please go for it and share what you guys think works! But whether your VPN works or doesn't work isn't the problem of our business; our focus is making sure that we're encouraging the legal option.

(Oct. 16, 2020  2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!

(Oct. 16, 2020  2:58 PM)Limetka Wrote:

(Oct. 16, 2020  2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!

If that's the case I will sub it myself.

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote:

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?

I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.

(Oct. 16, 2020  12:12 PM)Phengpegasus Wrote: [/spoiler] Lol, And people thought Hyuga was going to go “dark Hyperion” or have some dark resonance. I can’t stop laughing. 🤡😂

(Oct. 16, 2020  2:55 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: Wait. Does that mean no more subs????!!!!!

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:06 PM)MDK Shady Wrote: Would subs count tho, it’s not like you can get the subbed version legally, so are subs allowed?

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:09 PM)Apollo17 Wrote: I mean aren't sites like Kissanime and Gogoanime that post subs considered legal? I am not completely sure, but if they were illegal they would have probably been taken down already.

They are very illegal, but for alot of people like myself, its the best we can do to watch anime

(Oct. 16, 2020  4:20 PM)Apollo17 Wrote:

(Oct. 16, 2020  3:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: They are very illegal, but for alot of people like myself, its the best we can do to watch anime

Okay thanks for letting me know.

(Oct. 16, 2020  4:48 PM)Limetka Wrote: Here are the subtitles (in compliance with the rules, text-only).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QjGjCIbIchD0N_QGvr_glSwtrX9WkER2/view

(Oct. 16, 2020  4:48 PM)Limetka Wrote: Here are the subtitles (in compliance with the rules, text-only).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QjGjCIbIchD0N_QGvr_glSwtrX9WkER2/view

(Oct. 16, 2020  1:46 PM)DranzerX13 Wrote: I am trying to add as many of you as I can that view these threads, so please be patient.

No more even mentioning PMs with the episodes please. I will say this once and once only. After that, no more in here, GOT IT?

(Oct. 21, 2020  1:37 AM)DranzerX13 Wrote: [font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You guys know VPNs are illegal as well. Circumventing region lock is illegal. Companies like Netflix, and Hulu have worked really hard to make software that senses if you're using a VPN or not. A lot of places will say it's a legal gray area, but streaming services have said lots of times that circumventing region lock is still illegal. I mean, it's not as bad as pirating episodes, cause you're still paying for the service, but that's what the companies still say. VPNs do have many legal uses, but getting past a region lock on places like Netflix and Hulu can get you banned if they catch you. Not sure about YouTube though since the content is free to begin with. They have region locking for a reason.[/font]