(Sep. 30, 2020  3:59 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Sep. 30, 2020  3:52 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: nah, aiga is stronger for multiple reasons.
1: Aiga's bey is better. Even if Lucifer's ability is op in the anime, it is still a defense type, one that can be easily outspun.
2: Aiga is smarter. Honestly, if aiga is even half as smart as he was in Cho-Z, he still would stand a chance against lane. Lane has 2 strategies. One is to immediately take the center and defend, and the other is to use Mobius to counter. Like phi's moves, both of these strategies are insanely powerful and almost unbeatable, and therein lies the problem. Both lane and phi rely on their moves and resonance power too much and are not open to other ways to be defeated. This is the reason why most balance types change their attack and defense patterns, because no bey is perfect, and balance types are prepared to stab at a bey's weak points.
3: Uncorrupted resonance. This power may not actually be a thing, but, from what I've seen, when resonance is corrupted and cleansed, the bond between blader and bey grows stronger. The immense power of dark resonance is kept, but the darkness itself is gone. This is why Shu was able to resist Phi, and why Aiga's hair turns to gold. Of course, this is speculation.

Yes, but plot armor

(Sep. 30, 2020  4:01 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Sep. 30, 2020  3:59 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Yes, but plot armor

4 which party? Lane 100% has it, and Aiga had it until hades beat him.

(Sep. 30, 2020  3:52 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Sep. 30, 2020  3:06 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Uh, that was never defined really. Lean and Aiga haven't had a proper 1v1, but we do know Lean had steamrollered Lui, not to mention beat 4 people at once.

Not far fetched to say that Lean is stronger than Aiga.

nah, aiga is stronger for multiple reasons.
1: Aiga's bey is better. Even if Lucifer's ability is op in the anime, it is still a defense type, one that can be easily outspun.
2: Aiga is smarter. Honestly, if aiga is even half as smart as he was in Cho-Z, he still would stand a chance against lane. Lane has 2 strategies. One is to immediately take the center and defend, and the other is to use Mobius to counter. Like phi's moves, both of these strategies are insanely powerful and almost unbeatable, and therein lies the problem. Both lane and phi rely on their moves and resonance power too much and are not open to other ways to be defeated. This is the reason why most balance types change their attack and defense patterns, because no bey is perfect, and balance types are prepared to stab at a bey's weak points.
3: Uncorrupted resonance. This power may not actually be a thing, but, from what I've seen, when resonance is corrupted and cleansed, the bond between blader and bey grows stronger. The immense power of dark resonance is kept, but the darkness itself is gone. This is why Shu was able to resist Phi, and why Aiga's hair turns to gold. Of course, this is speculation.

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Read the new manga chapter here! (right to left)
https://www.facebook.com/DarkTeamSub/photos/a.109417960688937/180950030202396/?type=3&theater

Here's a picture from it (credit to my friend)
https://imgur.com/a/Fa4h94i

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Read a special manga chapter here! (right to left)
https://www.facebook.com/DarkTeamSub/photos/a.109417960688937/180950030202396/?type=3&theater

Here's a picture from it (credit to my friend)
https://imgur.com/a/Fa4h94i

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:06 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Read the new manga chapter here! (right to left)
https://www.facebook.com/DarkTeamSub/photos/a.109417960688937/180950030202396/?type=3&theater

Here's a picture from it (credit to my friend)
https://imgur.com/a/Fa4h94i

Crud, that picture with all the legends looks fire.

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Read a special manga chapter here! (right to left)
https://www.facebook.com/DarkTeamSub/photos/a.109417960688937/180950030202396/?type=3&theater

Here's a picture from it (credit to my friend)
https://imgur.com/a/Fa4h94i

This looks really cool, super exciting! It really is a shame that the ones (outside of the eight main ones) are just off-screen fodder for Lean and nothing else, but it's cool to see the, back anyway. Honestly, I wish they did give all fifteen of them Sparking evolutions.

Speaking of which, I'm getting the feeling that Wakiya is the most likely candidate for the B-177 Defense Booster (that belongs to an "old rival"). Even though Gwyn and Phi are stronger, one thing I've noticed is that all of the Legendary Bladers who did get evolutions sport different clothes. Wakiya is the only one out of the remaining Legendary Bladers (outside of the main eight) who also wears different clothes, whilst Gwyn and Phi wear the same outfits as they did before. I know that sounds like a weak argument, but it's what I've noticed.

(Oct. 01, 2020  3:25 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: This looks really cool, super exciting! It really is a shame that the ones (outside of the eight main ones) are just off-screen fodder for Lean and nothing else, but it's cool to see the, back anyway. Honestly, I wish they did give all fifteen of them Sparking evolutions.

Speaking of which, I'm getting the feeling that Wakiya is the most likely candidate for the B-177 Defense Booster (that belongs to an "old rival"). Even though Gwyn and Phi are stronger, one thing I've noticed is that all of the Legendary Bladers who did get evolutions sport different clothes. Wakiya is the only one out of the remaining Legendary Bladers (outside of the main eight) who also wears different clothes, whilst Gwyn and Phi wear the same outfits as they did before. I know that sounds like a weak argument, but it's what I've noticed.

Oh yeah, I always wondered why they gave Wakiya's design a small revamp but the others did not. Maybe he is slightly more important than the others? Maybe.

(Oct. 01, 2020  3:25 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: This looks really cool, super exciting! It really is a shame that the ones (outside of the eight main ones) are just off-screen fodder for Lean and nothing else, but it's cool to see the, back anyway. Honestly, I wish they did give all fifteen of them Sparking evolutions.

Speaking of which, I'm getting the feeling that Wakiya is the most likely candidate for the B-177 Defense Booster (that belongs to an "old rival"). Even though Gwyn and Phi are stronger, one thing I've noticed is that all of the Legendary Bladers who did get evolutions sport different clothes. Wakiya is the only one out of the remaining Legendary Bladers (outside of the main eight) who also wears different clothes, whilst Gwyn and Phi wear the same outfits as they did before. I know that sounds like a weak argument, but it's what I've noticed.

Oh yeah, I always wondered why they gave Wakiya's design a small revamp but the others did not. Maybe he is slightly more important than the others? Maybe.

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:48 AM)Gurjaan Wrote: Please tell your friend to post Shu vs Lane chapter.

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:34 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  3:25 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Oh yeah, I always wondered why they gave Wakiya's design a small revamp but the others did not. Maybe he is slightly more important than the others? Maybe.

With the role they gave him in the manga as a chairman plus having his design updated, I feel like he will be the "old defense-type rival" Legendary Blader to receive an upgrade. I mean granted, the updated outfits do not always mean that they'll be the ones that will get it (I mean Delta wore the same clothes as he did in the previous series and we have two Diabolos' in Sparking) but he's highly likely if I'm honest.

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:29 PM)kai edits Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:34 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: With the role they gave him in the manga as a chairman plus having his design updated, I feel like he will be the "old defense-type rival" Legendary Blader to receive an upgrade. I mean granted, the updated outfits do not always mean that they'll be the ones that will get it (I mean Delta wore the same clothes as he did in the previous series and we have two Diabolos' in Sparking) but he's highly likely if I'm honest.

He cant be in sparking since he was not a legendary blader. Also he is in manga but does nothing

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:29 PM)kai edits Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  4:34 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: With the role they gave him in the manga as a chairman plus having his design updated, I feel like he will be the "old defense-type rival" Legendary Blader to receive an upgrade. I mean granted, the updated outfits do not always mean that they'll be the ones that will get it (I mean Delta wore the same clothes as he did in the previous series and we have two Diabolos' in Sparking) but he's highly likely if I'm honest.

He cant be in sparking since he was not a legendary blader. Also he is in manga but does nothing

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:45 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:29 PM)kai edits Wrote: He cant be in sparking since he was not a legendary blader. Also he is in manga but does nothing

Not in the Sparking anime but in the Sparking manga, both Wakiya and Delta are Legendary Bladers there and if it's possible to get an evolution for Diabolos (despite Delta having yet to appear in the anime) then it's also possible for Wakiya to get one, even if he doesn't have a role in the anime.

(Oct. 01, 2020  12:58 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Sep. 30, 2020  3:52 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: nah, aiga is stronger for multiple reasons.
1: Aiga's bey is better. Even if Lucifer's ability is op in the anime, it is still a defense type, one that can be easily outspun.
2: Aiga is smarter. Honestly, if aiga is even half as smart as he was in Cho-Z, he still would stand a chance against lane. Lane has 2 strategies. One is to immediately take the center and defend, and the other is to use Mobius to counter. Like phi's moves, both of these strategies are insanely powerful and almost unbeatable, and therein lies the problem. Both lane and phi rely on their moves and resonance power too much and are not open to other ways to be defeated. This is the reason why most balance types change their attack and defense patterns, because no bey is perfect, and balance types are prepared to stab at a bey's weak points.
3: Uncorrupted resonance. This power may not actually be a thing, but, from what I've seen, when resonance is corrupted and cleansed, the bond between blader and bey grows stronger. The immense power of dark resonance is kept, but the darkness itself is gone. This is why Shu was able to resist Phi, and why Aiga's hair turns to gold. Of course, this is speculation.

Not necessarily better in the anime, because Lucifer seems to have a load of stamina there.
Lean has been shown to be pretty smart in terms of strategy and analysis, he was taught by Shu.
Phi was still strong with what you could call, corrupted resonance.

Not to mention Lean has a bit of plot armor on top of what already made him a match for Aiga.

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:13 PM)kai edits Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  1:45 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: Not in the Sparking anime but in the Sparking manga, both Wakiya and Delta are Legendary Bladers there and if it's possible to get an evolution for Diabolos (despite Delta having yet to appear in the anime) then it's also possible for Wakiya to get one, even if he doesn't have a role in the anime.

Delta is lame in my opinion bring back gwynn or someone better than delta

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:33 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  12:58 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Not necessarily better in the anime, because Lucifer seems to have a load of stamina there.
Lean has been shown to be pretty smart in terms of strategy and analysis, he was taught by Shu.
Phi was still strong with what you could call, corrupted resonance.

Not to mention Lean has a bit of plot armor on top of what already made him a match for Aiga.

I don't really count plot armor as strength, and what I'm saying is that if phi had uncorrupted resonance, and formed a true bond, he would be much stronger. Aiga only formed a true bond w/Achilles at the end of the battle, and phi was demolished.

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(Oct. 01, 2020  2:13 PM)kai edits Wrote: Delta is lame in my opinion bring back gwynn or someone better than delta

i liked delta he was like shu but less emo

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:33 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  12:58 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Not necessarily better in the anime, because Lucifer seems to have a load of stamina there.
Lean has been shown to be pretty smart in terms of strategy and analysis, he was taught by Shu.
Phi was still strong with what you could call, corrupted resonance.

Not to mention Lean has a bit of plot armor on top of what already made him a match for Aiga.

I don't really count plot armor as strength, and what I'm saying is that if phi had uncorrupted resonance, and formed a true bond, he would be much stronger. Aiga only formed a true bond w/Achilles at the end of the battle, and phi was demolished.

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(Oct. 01, 2020  2:13 PM)kai edits Wrote: Delta is lame in my opinion bring back gwynn or someone better than delta

i liked delta he was like shu but less emo

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:46 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:33 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: I don't really count plot armor as strength, and what I'm saying is that if phi had uncorrupted resonance, and formed a true bond, he would be much stronger. Aiga only formed a true bond w/Achilles at the end of the battle, and phi was demolished.

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i liked delta he was like shu but less emo

Less emo or more emo?

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 PM)kai edits Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:46 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Less emo or more emo?

I like shu cause he is emo as hell

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:55 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Oct. 01, 2020  2:49 PM)kai edits Wrote: I like shu cause he is emo as hell

Delta was literally like “I can’t come back from the dark side” for like half the show