(Dec. 28, 2020  2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.

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(Dec. 28, 2020  2:22 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I think it does. A dark gloomy tower is much more depressing than a boat to me.

Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.

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Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.

I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

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(Dec. 28, 2020  2:39 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

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I bet 90% of everyone you @'d has never seen the manga. I have the manga version ready to share, my dm's are open.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:41 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:39 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: I bet 90% of everyone you @'d has never seen the manga. I have the manga version ready to share, my dm's are open.

Don’t take it the wrong way, I just wanted to see what other opinions yielded. Besides back when the manga version released multiple people were commenting on it and it was on multiple YouTube channels so I doubt 90% hasn’t seen it.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:43 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:41 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Don’t take it the wrong way, I just wanted to see what other opinions yielded. Besides back when the manga version released multiple people were commenting on it and it was on multiple YouTube channels so I doubt 90% hasn’t seen it.

Don't get me wrong it was popular but that was 2 years ago, almost 3.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:43 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:43 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Don't get me wrong it was popular but that was 2 years ago, almost 3.

Marutti and Leo burst both had it on their YouTube channels. Trust me, most people have seen it.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:46 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:43 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Marutti and Leo burst both had it on their YouTube channels. Trust me, most people have seen it.

I've seen most of Ben 10 but remember like nothing. Its been almost 3 years since that stuff went up on youtube man. Obviously you aren't gonna have a clearly memory of what happened unless you've recently read it.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:48 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:46 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: I've seen most of Ben 10 but remember like nothing. Its been almost 3 years since that stuff went up on youtube man. Obviously you aren't gonna have a clearly memory of what happened unless you've recently read it.

Well if you feel that way then just post it lol.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:50 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:48 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Well if you feel that way then just post it lol.

Rules against piracy, but hell I can prob get away with it. Mods dont give an f unless its a popular thread and on a wednesday at 5:00 PM CST

CONTEXT:
Aiger got in over his head and battled Valt. Achilles didn't wanna lend any power during the battle since Aiger outright stated that its due to Aiger's skill Z Achilles wins his battle. Valt realizes Aiger was too far gone and broke his bey.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.

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Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.

I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:41 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:39 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: I bet 90% of everyone you @'d has never seen the manga. I have the manga version ready to share, my dm's are open.

Don’t take it the wrong way, I just wanted to see what other opinions yielded. Besides, back when the manga version released multiple people were commenting on it and it was on multiple YouTube channels so I doubt 90% haven’t seen it.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:53 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

I personally think that valt beating aiga is a better choice because it makes valt act more mature imo and further on when aiga beat valt it felt more rewarding and satisfying and the whole dead grand arc was bad imo

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:56 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:53 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I personally think that valt beating aiga is a better choice because it makes valt act more mature imo and further on when aiga beat valt it felt more rewarding and satisfying and the whole dead grand arc was bad imo

Oh no I wasn’t referring to the battle I was talking about his breakdown after.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.

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Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.

I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

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(Dec. 28, 2020  2:59 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

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The anime honestly. I haven't read any of the Cho-Z Manga (and I have no way to read it either) so I don't know.

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:00 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:59 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: The anime honestly. I haven't read any of the Cho-Z Manga (and I have no way to read it either) so I don't know.

Eclipse Force posted the breakdown scene above.

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:03 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:00 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Eclipse Force posted the breakdown scene above.

Only problem is that I don't understand Spanish (or whatever the language is)

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:06 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Bro I keep being @'d this system is trash

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:07 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:06 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Bro I keep being @'d this system is trash

Hang on I’ll remove your tag from the original quote. I put it there because I usually quote you in things so I had you on the pasted list.

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:33 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: the aiga breakdown an the anime was pretty good both the anime and manga got me feeling sorry for aiga the only thing I didn't like about the anime is it was phi who beat him before the breakdown I prefer the manga one for that valt beating him and giving him the speech on how his beyblading replace phi for valt an it would've been great . but overall I felt the breakdown, now I'll say this I personally thin the manga hands aiga character better overall although it's a surprise that I'm saying that cho z anime was 50/50 for me  same with gt I like some character arc but overall wasn't really a fan of it unlike the manga  , theirs a reason why s1 and god is like so much while the rest are very divided.

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:31 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.

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Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.

I don’t think manga can make it hit nearly as hard as animation would simply because of what it is. Focusing on setting is honestly a much better writing characteristic than moving on ever so quickly in my opinion because it’s just a waste of a realistic/emotional moment in burst. I wonder what other people would think though so I’ll ask?

Do you guys prefer Aiga breaking down after Valt beat him on the ship with its creative writing or do you prefer the breakdown at dead tower with the depressing setting and realism. To be clear, I’m not talking about the battles but rather Aiga’s reaction and emotional moments after the battle.

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:35 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Dec. 28, 2020  3:33 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: the aiga breakdown an the anime was pretty good both the anime and manga got me feeling sorry for aiga the only thing I didn't like about the anime is it was phi who beat him before the breakdown I prefer the manga one for that valt beating him and giving him the speech on how his beyblading replace phi for valt an it would've been great . but overall I felt the breakdown, now I'll say this I personally thin the manga hands aiga character better overall although it's a surprise that I'm saying that cho z anime was 50/50 for me  same with gt I like some character arc but overall wasn't really a fan of it unlike the manga  , theirs a reason why s1 and god is like so much while the rest are very divided.

50/50 on the breakdown? Wow I never thought I would read such an interesting opinion. Very good explanation too.