(Aug. 06, 2011  9:26 AM)Clonetos Wrote: as a fan of not only beyblading but paleontology im happy to see the little slip in TT gave when putting Nightmare rex into the strongest blader set. UW145 Is a track belonging to beaofowl yes? well I think its nifty they put it in with Rex, why? well Dinosaurs happen to be ancestors of birds so i thought that was just something i wanted to share.

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:58 AM)iBeyblader Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

Yeah, but they're kind of trying to redo that with MFB. You know, the 4D Beyblades. Jade Jupiter and Scythe Kronos are good examples.

(Aug. 06, 2011  11:06 AM)poseidon Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:58 AM)iBeyblader Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

Yeah, but they're kind of trying to redo that with MFB. You know, the 4D Beyblades. Jade Jupiter and Scythe Kronos are good examples.

spiral change base >>> HF/S

there isnt as many gimmicks to be honest in metal fushion and most of them arent really good but i dont know much about the 4D bottoms
just a few thoughts i had the was leading of what Nwolf said but i can say that jumping beys are much better in MFB

(Aug. 06, 2011  11:09 AM)Nwolf Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  11:06 AM)poseidon Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:58 AM)iBeyblader Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

Yeah, but they're kind of trying to redo that with MFB. You know, the 4D Beyblades. Jade Jupiter and Scythe Kronos are good examples.

spiral change base >>> HF/S

there isnt as many gimmicks to be honest in metal fushion and most of them arent really good but i dont know much about the 4D bottoms
just a few thoughts i had the was leading of what Nwolf said but i can say that jumping beys are much better in MFB

how are jumping beys better in MFB? the only one i can think of is storm capricorne, and that sucks

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

(Aug. 06, 2011  1:00 PM)Janstarblast Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

Well, according to me, the main reason why they stopped making gimmicked parts is beacause TT started getting serious about beyblade. I really doubt if there is just anyone who would buy many of those gimmick beys. MFB is not only for kids; its also aimed towards the teenage audience. The gimmicks introduced by TT in MFB were probably meant to be useful. The 4D bottoms were created with mode change gimmicks as they thought its gonna be useful. Jumping beys were just a formality.
Storm Capricorne was a disaster, you know.

(Aug. 06, 2011  1:06 PM)Nwolf Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  1:00 PM)Janstarblast Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2011  10:30 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hhhm, how come most of the old school beyblades have better gimmicks? i mean they're made by the same people, but the MFB beyblade gimmmicks don't seem to be as good as the old ones, like when i was blading with my phantom fox against my jumping driger and phantom force wolborg, it was just a thought i had...

Well, according to me, the main reason why they stopped making gimmicked parts is beacause TT started getting serious about beyblade. I really doubt if there is just anyone who would buy many of those gimmick beys. MFB is not only for kids; its also aimed towards the teenage audience. The gimmicks introduced by TT in MFB were probably meant to be useful. The 4D bottoms were created with mode change gimmicks as they thought its gonna be useful. Jumping beys were just a formality.
Storm Capricorne was a disaster, you know.

But then i don't understand that, you're saying they were becoming serious, however most of the old gimmicks beys were useful, like phantom fox, it was useful. most of the new ones aren't very useful, most of them. aka carpicorne failed. sol blaze was meant to be an amazing bey. peawolf also failed, most of the gimmicks they seem to have spent the longest time thinking of have been the ones that didn't work.

(Aug. 06, 2011  2:41 PM)♥ Wrote: Just to address "TT just produces Beys": I don't really think so. A lot of thought goes into the design of a part, and as we've all seen, they are tested (both with safety in mind, but also with regards to the hobby) before they go into production. Obviously, not everything they make is top-tier, but I don't think that's their intention either.

Beyblade has always been taken seriously in terms of organised play by Takara / Takara Tomy. The fact that they hold regular tournaments with impressive prizes is testament to that, so I would also disagree that they are only taking MFB seriously.

Additionally, Phantom Fox MS is part of the Gimmick Specialty series of HMS; all of the Beyblades of that line were designed with relatively abnormal gimmicks to differentiate them as a series. They weren't necessarily designed to be absolutely amazing, but they are supposed to highlight variation and fun in Beyblade. Yes, we don't have a Gimmick Specialty line in MFB, but Takara Tomy still make a lot of gimmicked parts which aren't necessarily useful, but fun to use regardless. I don't think much has changed in terms of their focus, really.

(Aug. 06, 2011  2:41 PM)♥ Wrote: Just to address "TT just produces Beys": I don't really think so. A lot of thought goes into the design of a part, and as we've all seen, they are tested (both with safety in mind, but also with regards to the hobby) before they go into production. Obviously, not everything they make is top-tier, but I don't think that's their intention either.

Beyblade has always been taken seriously in terms of organised play by Takara / Takara Tomy. The fact that they hold regular tournaments with impressive prizes is testament to that, so I would also disagree that they are only taking MFB seriously.

Additionally, Phantom Fox MS is part of the Gimmick Specialty series of HMS; all of the Beyblades of that line were designed with relatively abnormal gimmicks to differentiate them as a series. They weren't necessarily designed to be absolutely amazing, but they are supposed to highlight variation and fun in Beyblade. Yes, we don't have a Gimmick Specialty line in MFB, but Takara Tomy still make a lot of gimmicked parts which aren't necessarily useful, but fun to use regardless. I don't think much has changed in terms of their focus, really.

(Aug. 06, 2011  2:41 PM)♥ Wrote: Just to address "TT just produces Beys": I don't really think so. A lot of thought goes into the design of a part, and as we've all seen, they are tested (both with safety in mind, but also with regards to the hobby) before they go into production. Obviously, not everything they make is top-tier, but I don't think that's their intention either.

Beyblade has always been taken seriously in terms of organised play by Takara / Takara Tomy. The fact that they hold regular tournaments with impressive prizes is testament to that, so I would also disagree that they are only taking MFB seriously.

Additionally, Phantom Fox MS is part of the Gimmick Specialty series of HMS; all of the Beyblades of that line were designed with relatively abnormal gimmicks to differentiate them as a series. They weren't necessarily designed to be absolutely amazing, but they are supposed to highlight variation and fun in Beyblade. Yes, we don't have a Gimmick Specialty line in MFB, but Takara Tomy still make a lot of gimmicked parts which aren't necessarily useful, but fun to use regardless. I don't think much has changed in terms of their focus, really.

(Aug. 06, 2011  2:53 PM)♥ Wrote: I think we should really address this misinformation that's creeping in. How can something have a decent amount of recoil? Recoil, by definition, is undesirable. Recoil is not the same as Smash Attack strength, and not necessarily correlated in any way either.