(Dec. 23, 2020  7:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:10 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Yeah, he technically got Hades back like he always wanted too. He still wanted Hades but he had no choice but to pick Phoenix.

But he also liked Phoenix as well.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:11 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Hyde still wanted Hades after he got beaten but Phi didn't let him

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:12 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: But he also liked Phoenix as well.

He didn't want Phoenix, he had to choose it because it was the only bey left.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:13 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:12 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: He didn't want Phoenix, he had to choose it because it was the only bey left.

He wanted Phoenix. If Phi didn’t he just wouldn’t take it that’s how he is. Phoenix resonated with him and that’s why he gave up in Hades. Is it really hard to give me a dub?

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:13 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:13 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: He wanted Phoenix. If Phi didn’t he just wouldn’t take it that’s how he is. Phoenix resonated with him and that’s why he gave up in Hades. Is it really hard to give me a dub?

He didn't want Phoenix, he had to take it. Hyde wasn't gonna give him Hades.

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There was no other choice.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:09 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:01 PM)Admiral W Wrote: But he didn't lose interest. The fact that he still wanted Hades is clear in their battle. For all those years he still felt that Hades should belong to him.

Well then why upgrade Phoenix instead of Hades? Why approach Heartz after so long? I’ll tell you why. After beating Aiga he decided that wasn’t enough power Phoenix wanted more and he wanted to be reunited with Hades (note Phoenix has been guiding Phi’s every decision). Phi himself has let go of Hades since he saw Phoenix but Phoenix hasn’t. Going back to your original stand you said that Phi became evil due to not having Hades and this was stupid (making Red eye stupid as well) well this is not correct as the reason for Phi becoming evil is simply to satisfy Phoenix.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:14 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Hyde got scared when Phi stared at him and Hyde said: "I hate you"

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:19 PM)Admiral W Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:09 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Well then why upgrade Phoenix instead of Hades? Why approach Heartz after so long? I’ll tell you why. After beating Aiga he decided that wasn’t enough power Phoenix wanted more and he wanted to be reunited with Hades (note Phoenix has been guiding Phi’s every decision). Phi himself has let go of Hades since he saw Phoenix but Phoenix hasn’t. Going back to your original stand you said that Phi became evil due to not having Hades and this was stupid (making Red eye stupid as well) well this is not correct as the reason for Phi becoming evil is simply to satisfy Phoenix.

He upgraded Phoenix by absorbing Hades. And if your saying that Phoenix had taken over Phi, then that would be incorrect. He and Phoenix had a certain bond, they were working together to cause destruction. As far as my earlier statements, I wasn't saying that his actions were soley because he didn't have Hades. I was saying that his motivations had no depth to them one of those motivations being his desire to have Hades back. That's the whole reason he even fought Hyde. Once he had that, he decided to go around destroying stuff for no reason. Shu was manipulated at his moment of maximum vulnerability and took Ashtem's bait and before he could realize the situation he was in, he ended up being consumed by Spryzen. Completely different circumstance.

(Dec. 23, 2020  1:52 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  6:27 AM)Sahaj Buttar Wrote: Wait is Aiga stronger than Valt

Easily valt just because he performed better feats than aiga such as knocking Lucifer barrier in 1 hit while aiga on the other hand cannot perform that through sheer power instead he used strategy to worn out the barrier

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:13 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: He didn't want Phoenix, he had to take it. Hyde wasn't gonna give him Hades.

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There was no other choice.

Even so he liked Phoenix and he gave up on Hades until he saw it as a opportunity to get stronger. Heck Phi didn’t even give 2 cents about hades and he only broke it because of Phoenix. Even if what you’re saying is true (that Phi choose Phoenix because he had to and not because he wanted to as well) it doesn’t change the fact that the original argument about Phi’s motives being just for Hades is just out right wrong.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:23 PM)Sahaj Buttar Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  1:52 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Easily valt just because he performed better feats than aiga such as knocking Lucifer barrier in 1 hit while aiga on the other hand cannot perform that through sheer power instead he used strategy to worn out the barrier

Agreee

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:24 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:23 PM)Sahaj Buttar Wrote: Agreee

Valt is definitely better than Aiga.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:23 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:19 PM)Admiral W Wrote: He upgraded Phoenix by absorbing Hades. And if your saying that Phoenix had taken over Phi, then that would be incorrect. He and Phoenix had a certain bond, they were working together to cause destruction. As far as my earlier statements, I wasn't saying that his actions were soley because he didn't have Hades. I was saying that his motivations had no depth to them one of those motivations being his desire to have Hades back. That's the whole reason he even fought Hyde. Once he had that, he decided to go around destroying stuff for no reason. Shu was manipulated at his moment of maximum vulnerability and took Ashtem's bait and before he could realize the situation he was in, he ended up being consumed by Spryzen. Completely different circumstance.

Phi’s motivations are the best because they’re realistic. All the man wants to do is have fun (even though it’s at the cost of others much like human beings). His sole purpose for breaking Hades is because Phoenix wanted it. As for Shu one could argue (although you probably won’t listen) that he was just a greedy little child who doesn’t know how to take a L like the rest of us (making him really really unrealistic)

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:25 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:24 PM)g2_ Wrote: Valt is definitely better than Aiga.

Stronger yes, but he doesn’t have the strategy factor.

(Dec. 23, 2020  7:27 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I can’t be the only one here who likes Cho-z the most?