(Sep. 04, 2020  8:48 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: The way they have handled valt till now is a bit underwhelming because of the fact that there are the other legends too. I still think that Valt will be treated much better  in future episodes lol.

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:47 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:28 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: Not gonna lie...

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I really wanted Sisco to win this one, and not have Free go with the tiresome "Oh well, I have this technique only I can use and that's why I win".

Still, it was a good battle.

I can relate to that tho geist claw=mirage claw

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:53 AM)Jinbee Wrote: Alright this episode stuck out enough for me to watch... aaaaand...

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Okay so stuff I liked was the Rantaro and Sisco stuff, I LOVED seeing the callback of Sisco desiring to beat Free during the God series, I'm glad they remembered that rivalry since I've always wanted to see Sisco win at least one point against Free someday.

Now the stuff I wasn't happy with was just how predictable it was. Mainly the battle. Yeah I know the pairings are pretty much one sided, Valt & Free are both generally better bladers than Sisco & Rantaro, but I was hoping this was unexpected and broke the status quo a bit... I'll admit, I loved Sisco so I wanted to see him win, but no, he loses against Free and therefore loses the match for him and Rantaro. Yes I know it was close... but then again, so was their battle in Episode 44 of God.

I was hoping at this point, Free at least doesn't act all non serious towards Sisco... but by the end, he's still very smug and says the exact same thing he once said to Kyle Hakim. Can't Free at least see Sisco as a worthy opponent now? You're telling me it's been years and he still doesn't take Sisco that seriously?

It was cool that Rantaro and Valt double bursted but then again, I saw better when he barely outlasted Valt during their battle royale.

It was a mixed bag overall for me and I'll admit it's a biased view, but I'm just so tired of the Free shilling, and basically Sisco's rivalry with him still feels extremely incomplete and has a loose end. I wouldn't even mind if Free won but learned to respect Sisco better, but we never even got that. Now the episode is technically fine, but it honestly left a sour taste in my mouth, I won't lie.

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:11 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:53 AM)Jinbee Wrote: Alright this episode stuck out enough for me to watch... aaaaand...

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Okay so stuff I liked was the Rantaro and Sisco stuff, I LOVED seeing the callback of Sisco desiring to beat Free during the God series, I'm glad they remembered that rivalry since I've always wanted to see Sisco win at least one point against Free someday.

Now the stuff I wasn't happy with was just how predictable it was. Mainly the battle. Yeah I know the pairings are pretty much one sided, Valt & Free are both generally better bladers than Sisco & Rantaro, but I was hoping this was unexpected and broke the status quo a bit... I'll admit, I loved Sisco so I wanted to see him win, but no, he loses against Free and therefore loses the match for him and Rantaro. Yes I know it was close... but then again, so was their battle in Episode 44 of God.

I was hoping at this point, Free at least doesn't act all non serious towards Sisco... but by the end, he's still very smug and says the exact same thing he once said to Kyle Hakim. Can't Free at least see Sisco as a worthy opponent now? You're telling me it's been years and he still doesn't take Sisco that seriously?

It was cool that Rantaro and Valt double bursted but then again, I saw better when he barely outlasted Valt during their battle royale.

It was a mixed bag overall for me and I'll admit it's a biased view, but I'm just so tired of the Free shilling, and basically Sisco's rivalry with him still feels extremely incomplete and has a loose end. I wouldn't even mind if Free won but learned to respect Sisco better, but we never even got that. Now the episode is technically fine, but it honestly left a sour taste in my mouth, I won't lie.

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Personally I don’t think Rantaro and Sisco are particularly worse than Valt and Free this season specifically in terms of the anime (or they atleast aren’t meant to be) since the season seems to be trying to keep bladers on an equal par. I think that what they are trying to do here is either give everyone (save for a select few) a single star so that we can have tie breakers or give all four semi finalists two stars and everyone else a single star (I’m not gonna math check which one of those scenarios is actually possible lmao) so that all bladers can have their time in the spotlight. It seemingly makes sense since Hikaru and Rantaro will take the next one. Nonetheless this episode could have been written better and I honestly think they shouldn’t have brought up all those old events or any of that rivalry junk. What the anime isn’t doing that the manga is doing is actually acknowledging and making use of the time skip. In my opinion, we don’t need old rivalry’s to spark up and as you said and we don’t need fellow legends thinking lowly of each other like Free, Sisco and Lui, Drum etc. As a matter of fact all the legends should really be familiar with each other...why is nobody familiar with Drum? I think they should keep things fresh with the legends but unfortunately not everyone is as good as Hiro Morita.  

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:54 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:47 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I can relate to that tho geist claw=mirage claw

I mean, fair enough.

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At least Free did use one of his strongest moves to defeat Sisco, rather than pull some random technique or special moves like "Geist Counter" (which in my opinion, is one of the lamest, most uninteresting special moves from Free) from Cho-Z lol.

But man, wouldn't it have been interesting if Sisco really did beat Free here, even if it was just by a rotation. Earlier in the episode, Free brung up his previous battle against Lean in New York and having Sisco beat Free would've probably helped fuel Free's drive to want to win more. It would've been so interesting and created a small little arc for him.

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:23 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  8:54 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: I mean, fair enough.

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At least Free did use one of his strongest moves to defeat Sisco, rather than pull some random technique or special moves like "Geist Counter" (which in my opinion, is one of the lamest, most uninteresting special moves from Free) from Cho-Z lol.

But man, wouldn't it have been interesting if Sisco really did beat Free here, even if it was just by a rotation. Earlier in the episode, Free brung up his previous battle against Lean in New York and having Sisco beat Free would've probably helped fuel Free's drive to want to win more. It would've been so interesting and created a small little arc for him.

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tbh I feel like the could go better with 1v1 i mean a 1v1 between free and Sisco will be much more impactful than using 2v2  ( I agreed mirage claw is lame so lame that I skip it most of the time when rewatching lol). 

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:22 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:11 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

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Personally I don’t think Rantaro and Sisco are particularly worse than Valt and Free this season specifically in terms of the anime (or they atleast aren’t meant to be) since the season seems to be trying to keep bladers on an equal par. I think that what they are trying to do here is either give everyone (save for a select few) a single star so that we can have tie breakers or give all four semi finalists two stars and everyone else a single star (I’m not gonna math check which one of those scenarios is actually possible lmao) so that all bladers can have their time in the spotlight. It seemingly makes sense since Hikaru and Rantaro will take the next one. Nonetheless this episode could have been written better and I honestly think they shouldn’t have brought up all those old events or any of that rivalry junk. What the anime isn’t doing that the manga is doing is actually acknowledging and making use of the time skip. In my opinion, we don’t need old rivalry’s to spark up and as you said and we don’t need fellow legends thinking lowly of each other like Free, Sisco and Lui, Drum etc. As a matter of fact all the legends should really be familiar with each other...why is nobody familiar with Drum? I think they should keep things fresh with the legends but unfortunately not everyone is as good as Hiro Morita.  

i would have to unfortunately have to disagree with you here; the rivalry is there and had never been resolved fully in the anime in the past. I mean even friends have rivalry's and that is just normal. In sports and in a competition no one cares if you are a friend even if you are a good friend with your competitor outside the sport. Its the same with sisco and free. Your point about free not treating sisco fairly is uncertain as i dont know what free exactly said. but regarding drum i can easily understand the fact due to the reason that lui has never treated anyone in the best wayand is not a team player. its more of lui's nature rather than drums fault.

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:31 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: i have a feeling that free will qualify and will face lean in the semi finals while using his nothing break but will unfortunately loose due to some new move by lean

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:34 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:22 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: i would have to unfortunately have to disagree with you here; the rivalry is there and had never been resolved fully in the anime in the past. I mean even friends have rivalry's and that is just normal. In sports and in a competition no one cares if you are a friend even if you are a good friend with your competitor outside the sport. Its the same with sisco and free. Your point about free not treating sisco fairly is uncertain as i dont know what free exactly said. but regarding drum i can easily understand the fact due to the reason that lui has never treated anyone in the best wayand is not a team player. its more of lui's nature rather than drums fault.

I see what you mean and respect your opinion but speaking for myself, I still kinda feel the way I do. What I am trying to say here is that I feel like they should lower all this focus on the legends and treat them just as they are, recurring characters. I think they should all know each other just like they do in the manga and I also think they should just have casual relationships and none of that complex stuff.

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:40 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:34 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I see what you mean and respect your opinion but speaking for myself, I still kinda feel the way I do. What I am trying to say here is that I feel like they should lower all this focus on the legends and treat them just as they are, recurring characters. I think they should all know each other just like they do in the manga and I also think they should just have casual relationships and none of that complex stuff.

Ah well the same goes for me. however i feel that if they can execute the backstories and rivalries pretty well then there is no problem. The complexities can be very well handled but the rivalry in todays episode was not done justice. thats why i get your point but i think we can agree that if they manage to do it in a better way it adds something special. Also dont you think that the main characters are a little bit underdeveloped after episode 16. We dont see any quiet moments from the main characters anymore and it feels as if the anime is focussing more on the legends than the main characters themselves

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:50 AM)NAP Wrote: Just saw this fantastic episode!

I heard that Wakiya can be seen slightly in this week's release but I seem to have missed it. Did anyone catch them??

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:50 AM)NAP Wrote: Just saw this fantastic episode!

I heard that Wakiya can be seen slightly in this week's release but I seem to have missed it. Did anyone catch them??

(Sep. 04, 2020  9:50 AM)NAP Wrote: Just saw this fantastic episode!

I heard that Wakiya can be seen slightly in this week's release but I seem to have missed it. Did anyone catch them??

(Sep. 04, 2020  10:48 AM)NPN Wrote: Not sure if anyone noticed Valkyrie burst purely because of Ragnaruk but Ragnaruk hit Satan which was in the centre and then bursted.

(Sep. 04, 2020  10:48 AM)NPN Wrote: Not sure if anyone noticed Valkyrie burst purely because of Ragnaruk but Ragnaruk hit Satan which was in the centre and then bursted.

(Sep. 03, 2020  10:33 PM)Almirante W Wrote: Recentemente, tenho ouvido reclamações sobre Valt ser o blader mais forte do mundo. Alguns simplesmente não querem aceitar que seja esse o caso. Espero que este episódio ajude as pessoas a entender por que Valt está acima de todos os outros bladers.

Eu estava apenas olhando para o trailer novamente. Eu realmente acho que isso tem potencial para ser a melhor batalha em sparking até agora.

(Sep. 04, 2020  10:48 AM)NPN Wrote: Not sure if anyone noticed Valkyrie burst purely because of Ragnaruk but Ragnaruk hit Satan which was in the centre and then bursted.

(Sep. 04, 2020  11:57 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  10:48 AM)NPN Wrote: Not sure if anyone noticed Valkyrie burst purely because of Ragnaruk but Ragnaruk hit Satan which was in the centre and then bursted.

Wait what wasn't ragnaruk hits valkyrie send it flying then ragnaruk hits satan bounce to the air then hits valkyrie causing a double burst

(Sep. 04, 2020  12:14 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Sep. 04, 2020  11:57 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Wait what wasn't ragnaruk hits valkyrie send it flying then ragnaruk hits satan bounce to the air then hits valkyrie causing a double burst

No, Ragnurak hit Valkyrie, Valkyrie bursted, and Ragnurak hit Satan out of the center then bursted.

(Sep. 04, 2020  2:52 PM)TrainiacJ Wrote: This episode has probably had me feeling more emotion than any Burst episode since the change to 11-minute episodes, but unfortunately that emotion is disappointment, so it's a wash lol. The fact that they set up this episode with Sisco reiterating his goals and motivation (defeating Free/the World Champion) and spend so much time stringing us along, thinking there might actually be any kind of character development in the series again, only to shoot it down and be like "lol no, free wins" is disappointing to say the least. Like, why bother focusing on Sisco through the battle if you're just going to do nothing?

And before anyone decides to spam replies about "power scaling", a good rule of writing is that anyone should be able to defeat anyone as long as it serves to strengthen the narrative. Everyone likes to complain about the beginning of Cho-Z where Aiga puts up a good fight against Valt and defeats Lui because "he's only a newbie, he's too stronk", but those battles serve a good purpose in the narrative by establishing Aiga's character as someone entirely different to Valt, and it also ties into that season's theme of Talent vs. Hard Work. So, if you're going to tell me Sisco deserved to be deprived of his character pay-off because "he's not strong enough to beat Free", you're barking up the wrong tree.

Ever since the series got its runtime slashed, every episode has felt like a collection of fun colors and shapes, with barely any character development and basically zero overarching plot, so seeing potential payoff for a character whose arc was left open by a previous series would have been really cool, but since BeyBurst doesn't like having an interesting story anymore, I suppose that was too much to ask for. I felt the same way to extent when they decided to break Ranjiro's bey, but at the very least that led into a good moment between him and Aiga, so it was somewhat forgivable. Free beating Sisco here serves zero purpose other than "free stronk, buy his toy".