(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:27 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: are we 100% sure this spriggan is B-172?

Considering this picture is definitely Spriggan, there’s no way that we have pictures of the Random booster this early. This is pretty much confirmed to be Spriggan.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:27 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Ok so this was extremely unexpected and it’s very surprising to see that they are breaking the anime patterns. Yet it’s still a booster... so again, either it’s not dual spin or takara tomy is being difficult and not providing us with a dual launcher. Anyways here’s something he thing:if Shu isn’t participating in the festival than why though? It’s really weird that Achilles is appearing first- yet it won’t be released for weeks.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Considering this picture is definitely Spriggan, there’s no way that we have pictures of the Random booster this early. This is pretty much confirmed to be Spriggan.

well yeah but going by the episodes Achilles appears soon..

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:32 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: This spriggsn is confirmed to come with a new chassis

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: well yeah but going by the episodes Achilles appears soon..

Shu appeared before Drum in the anime, yet Dragon was in the Triple Booster Set.
Achilles will probably be the B-173 Random Booster.

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(Aug. 08, 2020  6:32 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: This spriggsn is confirmed to come with a new chassis

What? Where do you see this?

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: well yeah but going by the episodes Achilles appears soon..

Shu appeared before Drum in the anime, yet Dragon was in the Triple Booster Set.
Achilles will probably be the B-173 Random Booster.

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(Aug. 08, 2020  6:32 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: This spriggsn is confirmed to come with a new chassis

What? Where do you see this?

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: well yeah but going by the episodes Achilles appears soon..

Shu appeared before Drum in the anime, yet Dragon was in the Triple Booster Set.
Achilles will probably be the B-173 Random Booster.

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(Aug. 08, 2020  6:32 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: This spriggsn is confirmed to come with a new chassis

What? Where do you see this?

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: Have you seen the picture.... We know what it looks like

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:27 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Ok so this was extremely unexpected and it’s very surprising to see that they are breaking the anime patterns. Yet it’s still a booster... so again, either it’s not dual spin or takara tomy is being difficult and not providing us with a dual launcher. Anyways here’s something he thing:if Shu isn’t participating in the festival than why though? It’s really weird that Achilles is appearing first- yet it won’t be released for weeks.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:27 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Ok so this was extremely unexpected and it’s very surprising to see that they are breaking the anime patterns. Yet it’s still a booster... so again, either it’s not dual spin or takara tomy is being difficult and not providing us with a dual launcher. Anyways here’s something he thing:if Shu isn’t participating in the festival than why though? It’s really weird that Achilles is appearing first- yet it won’t be released for weeks.

What do you mean? I don't see anything that confirms whether it's a  booster or starter anywhere.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:27 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Ok so this was extremely unexpected and it’s very surprising to see that they are breaking the anime patterns. Yet it’s still a booster... so again, either it’s not dual spin or takara tomy is being difficult and not providing us with a dual launcher. Anyways here’s something he thing:if Shu isn’t participating in the festival than why though? It’s really weird that Achilles is appearing first- yet it won’t be released for weeks.

Nothing says this is a booster. In fact, when we got the listing leaks it was unknown what this would be. Likely this is a deluxe starter with a sparking LR launcher.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:40 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: Have you seen the picture.... We know what it looks like

I have seen the picture and I am not denying it is Spriggan. Read what I said again, I was talking. I was expressing my confusion on why it’s Spriggan since Achilles is going to appear first.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:29 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: What do you mean? I don't see anything that confirms whether it's a  booster or starter anywhere.

My bad I was going off of what renidage implied 

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Nothing says this is a booster. In fact, when we got the listing leaks it was unknown what this would be. Likely this is a deluxe starter with a sparking LR launcher.

Yeah my bad I was going off of what renidage implied

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:41 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: It could be possible that Aiga will do what shu did in this anime

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:40 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I have seen the picture and I am not denying it is Spriggan. Read what I said again, I was talking. I was expressing my confusion on why it’s Spriggan since Achilles is going to appear first.
My bad I was going off of what renidage implied 
Yeah my bad I was going off of what renidage implied

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:41 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: It could be possible that Aiga will do what shu did in this anime

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:36 PM)ChoZBurstBlader Wrote: Dude have you seen the picture because I'm pretty sure no previous chassis has that design

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Shu appeared before Drum in the anime, yet Dragon was in the Triple Booster Set.
Achilles will probably be the B-173 Random Booster.

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What? Where do you see this?

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:38 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Shu appeared before Drum in the anime, yet Dragon was in the Triple Booster Set.
Achilles will probably be the B-173 Random Booster.

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What? Where do you see this?

Shu appearing there was different, that was just for story. No episode spoiler that revealed he'd battle yet. However, Aiga is clearly going to show off Achilles soon unlike Spriggan in the anime. Not saying this ain't Spriggan, just saying that it isn't confirmed yet I believe.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:48 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: The release patterns don't always match the anime.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:58 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: I'm gonna be honest here cause Mana brought it up in the discord: Rage Longinus (Product) was shown early too and that didn't come out for months.

(Aug. 08, 2020  7:00 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:58 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: I'm gonna be honest here cause Mana brought it up in the discord: Rage Longinus (Product) was shown early too and that didn't come out for months.

Exactly and considering we didn't get a poster for the upcoming releases, they could show a bit more here.

Still not ruling out the possibilty tho.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:56 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:48 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: The release patterns don't always match the anime.

Well this isn’t some marginally small gap. This appearance gap is a matter spanning over a month which is a pretty big deal for burst these days. On top of that, we are getting Spriggan early, which makes it seem like it won’t appear in the anime for just as long.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:58 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: I'm gonna be honest here cause Mana brought it up in the discord: Rage Longinus (Product) was shown early too and that didn't come out for months.

(Aug. 08, 2020  7:03 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:56 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Well this isn’t some marginally small gap. This appearance gap is a matter spanning over a month which is a pretty big deal for burst these days. On top of that, we are getting Spriggan early, which makes it seem like it won’t appear in the anime for just as long.

Well, Brave Valkyrie and Curse Satan appeared a month early to help introduce Sparking, and we didn't even know what the Universe Driver was right off the bat. To be fair, they could've held off on the Legends Festival for a couple more weeks since this is two months early, but maybe they have a plan for what comes after the festival.

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(Aug. 08, 2020  6:58 PM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: I'm gonna be honest here cause Mana brought it up in the discord: Rage Longinus (Product) was shown early too and that didn't come out for months.

True, although that was just a teaser.

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:47 PM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote: Looks like the Ring flips (similar to Master Diabolos). I've also noticed that a piece of the axe resembles Spriggan Requiem .Looks like this side of the layer is based off of Legend Spriggan. I'm going to take a guess that the other side will resemble Spriggan Requiem with a piece of  Legend Spriggans axe (the left side of the axe that we can see in the leaked picture) on one side of the axe.  (or just any part , as there might not be an axe on the other side of the ring)

(Aug. 08, 2020  7:57 PM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  6:47 PM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote: Looks like the Ring flips (similar to Master Diabolos). I've also noticed that a piece of the axe resembles Spriggan Requiem .Looks like this side of the layer is based off of Legend Spriggan. I'm going to take a guess that the other side will resemble Spriggan Requiem with a piece of  Legend Spriggans axe (the left side of the axe that we can see in the leaked picture) on one side of the axe.  (or just any part , as there might not be an axe on the other side of the ring)

Looks like I was right ; ) 
https://imgur.com/a/KQlU3Q9

(Aug. 08, 2020  7:06 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2020  7:03 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Well, Brave Valkyrie and Curse Satan appeared a month early to help introduce Sparking, and we didn't even know what the Universe Driver was right off the bat. To be fair, they could've held off on the Legends Festival for a couple more weeks since this is two months early, but maybe they have a plan for what comes after the festival.

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True, although that was just a teaser.

Yeah that’s true. It’s just really odd that Spriggan is apparently getting released first while Achilles is second but the anime appearances are going to be alternated. Perhaps it’s something on takara tomy’s side

Edit: Here’s my take on why this happened. In order for us to fully understand let’s say we track back a bit; So as we know, Spriggan has always been an extremely popular line and in s1-s2 it was released as a starter while in s3-4 it was released in a customize/triple booster set in order to “milk” it’s worth. My guess is that it was indeed originally planned to be in the rbv but tt decided to switch it with Achilles based on the fact that they sell more Spriggan products by making Spriggan easier to obtain/afford and they do that by releasing it as a starter or booster rather than in some expensive set or rbv that would for the most part, require a lot of money in order to acquire the prize bey with the better sales of s1-2 Spriggan products proving that it is the superior tactic. This effectively means they are making more money selling Spriggan as a booster/starter as opposed to an expensive customize set bey because that enables a larger crowd of people to indulge in buying this. It would make sense as well since the primary consumers of beyblade are obviously younger children and young children don’t exactly have wayyy too much money to blow and nor do their parents on such expensive toys.