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RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Mc Frown - Dec. 21, 2010
Wasting our time and effort towards the development of the real metagame by fuddling around with some carp hasbro only one that will benefit a few insignificant members. It will completely fuddle the beypoint system, and it will be using the WBO as a hub for it's non WBO sanctioned events. It can't require a blader passport if it doesn't give beypoints, so the WBO will not profit from it, it would just be a detriment. It will be a parasite sub-forum and an uneeded drain on the more experienced members.
Why don't you just get a figurehead, make your own site and become like a partner site or something? Though you wouldn't recieve any WBO funds :V
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
Because that portion of the site would be adding new members and such. While this portion would still have to pay for the server fees and such.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Gearfried97 - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 10:28 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: Wasting our time and effort towards the development of the real metagame by fuddling around with some carp hasbro only one that will benefit a few insignificant members. It will completely fuddle the beypoint system, and it will be using the WBO as a hub for it's non WBO sanctioned events. It'll just be a parasite sub-forum and a waste of time.
ok so people who cant afford to play competitively are insignificant and dont matter?
yea i get it now.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Mc Frown - Dec. 21, 2010
We aren't going to develop a new metagame just for these people, they can have fun with the facets of the game they can access.
EDIT: I'm not speaking on behalf of the WBO either, so don't take it as such. These are just my musings and thoughts, and do not necessarily reflect others opinions.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
I think what he means by that is little kids who will just consistently SPAM the forum, or people who will just post combos that are only good in Hasbro stadiums.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Mc Frown - Dec. 21, 2010
Sort of, most people that can't import are younger kids and aren't really going to be contributers anyways.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Gearfried97 - Dec. 21, 2010
edit: nevermind
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
Mhm this place would be like the Beyblade Facebook page and that is just a nightmare (shudder)
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Brooklyn-Z - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 10:33 PM)|Joe| Wrote: I think what he means by that is little kids who will just consistently SPAM the forum, or people who will just post combos that are only good in Hasbro stadiums.
or not good at all, though Mc Frown you could have said something a littlebetter/nicer then "insignificant members" ,just saying :T
if this place becomes like FC i will kill myself
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Temporal - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 10:18 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: Rock is good in the Attack Stadium : \
No one competitive is going to bother testing mediocre parts and combos in Hasbro stadiums. Like I said, don't expect anyone to develop an entire special metagame for you, do it yourselves.
We'll do the testing, we just need assurance that the thread involving the Hasbro Stadium metagame won't be looked down upon and closed.
So now we're insignificant? Bad choice of words dude.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Mc Frown - Dec. 21, 2010
of course a thread won't get closed, but dont expect the wbo to support it, sanction it, or work for it.
And I wouldn't expect a Hasbro sub-forum either.
EDIT: And I stand by my word choice. The WBO wouldn't be any worse off with most of us missing.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
I think a better word like "non-contributing" would've been better, but I understand what you mean by it. The younger members might not though and find it offensive.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Gearfried97 - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 11:06 PM)|Joe| Wrote: I think a better word like "non-contributing" would've been better, but I understand what you mean by it. The younger members might not though and find it offensive.
younger members?
im 13...
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
That's nice, did say 13 y/o? No because a lot of people here are around that age range. I'm saying around 8 or so. Stop taking every little comment into offense against you. Its getting annoying.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Temporal - Dec. 21, 2010
Okay, then if that's not a problem, then what is the point of this thread? Just wait for Burning Firestrike, and hope that it's good.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 21, 2010
That's what we're all saying, but people like to try to take pointless arguments further than they should go.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Temporal - Dec. 21, 2010
Huh... I've been arguing for no reason for 2 days... That's a wonderful way to spend Winter Break. I mean really. I thought that the thread denied setting up a thread where it says which parts are more or less useful/dominant from a LF/MS/BS point of view. We all know that eventually Hasbro will release a decent stadium, and eventually it will be added to the metagame. So instead of whining, let's just set up combos that are useful in the large size of the Hasbro stadiums to prepare for that day.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Kai-V - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 11:17 PM)Megablader9 Wrote: Huh... I've been arguing for no reason for 2 days... That's a wonderful way to spend Winter Break. I mean really. I thought that the thread denied setting up a thread where it says which parts are more or less useful/dominant from a LF/MS/BS point of view. We all know that eventually Hasbro will release a decent stadium, and eventually it will be added to the metagame. So instead of whining, let's just set up combos that are useful in the large size of the Hasbro stadiums to prepare for that day.... You do not seem to understand that the top tier combinations for an eventual good Hasbro Beystadium will be similar to what we have for TAKARA-TOMY's Beystadiums ... I am not too sure what the goal of testing parts to make a "Hasbro top tier list" is, since Hasbro has made no Beyblade Metal Fusion tournament yet, those at Toys 'R' Us are jokes and you cannot even choose your Beyblade or customize it, and we consider their Beystadiums horrible here ...
Do it if you want, but if you are not primarily doing valid tests for more important matters, that is not really helping ...
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - SajjanSV - Dec. 21, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 10:28 PM)Mc Frown Wrote: Wasting our time and effort towards the development of the real metagame by fuddling around with some carp hasbro only one that will benefit a few insignificant members. It will completely fuddle the beypoint system, and it will be using the WBO as a hub for it's non WBO sanctioned events. It can't require a blader passport if it doesn't give beypoints, so the WBO will not profit from it, it would just be a detriment. It will be a parasite sub-forum and an uneeded drain on the more experienced members.
Why don't you just get a figurehead, make your own site and become like a partner site or something? Though you wouldn't recieve any WBO funds :V
Couldn't agree more, the WBO has worked too hard against hasbro to rectify the metagame to just then let a minority of people who want to play the game the messed up Hasbro way, which is way to unfair to attack types to be the viable way to play.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - felofilipino - Dec. 22, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 7:52 AM)Mc Frown Wrote: But the WBO doesn't care about you, it cares about competitive Beyblade.
This pretty much sums up this entire thread.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Kai-V - Dec. 22, 2010
(Dec. 22, 2010 12:11 AM)felofilipino Wrote: This pretty much sums up this entire thread.Although it is not really true at all, otherwise we would not have a message board and we would not be trying to share our knowledge, amongst several other things.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - Mc Frown - Dec. 22, 2010
Yeah, although I don't believe this site was created to cater to every kid and their specific situation, but to get to the peak of the metagame. There was never a Hasbro ruleset in the Plastic/HMS era, and most people weren't to concerned with aiding those without access to the necessary parts.
I don't know, it's a competitive site at heart, and competitive in the real metagame, not some lower joke Hasbro one.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - PRINCEcharming - Dec. 22, 2010
So with that lot settled...
Shall we agree to carry on the way we were heading?
(ie: keep discussions relevant to Hasbro stadiums in the threads dedicated to them, which would include combo discussion specific to those stadiums, and new Hasbro stadiums are tested and reviewed for eligibility to be sanctioned for WBO tournaments)
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - |Joe| - Dec. 22, 2010
I agree. And I don't really think there is much purpose for this thread anymore.
RE: An arguement for metagame adjustment - bumpyfelon - Dec. 22, 2010
(Dec. 21, 2010 9:06 PM)Kai-V Wrote:i have decided to post a new opinion.(Dec. 21, 2010 8:21 PM)Alchemy Wrote: what kai v just said was basically saying "the wbo is too lazy to make a hasbro rules only sub-forum so we arent."I do not think you understand much about this competitive hobby, considering what you just wrote, especially the first part ... Have you even read any post in this topic ?
why cant there be a hasbro only sub- forum? why is it a problem? earlier, someone said stamina would rule. attack rules now, a top tier attack bey can beat a top tier stamina bey, correct? the wbo should welcome all bladers, not only the ones who have hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy stadiums and beys. i save up my money to buy things, and i get a TT attack stadium as one of my 4 gifts for christmas, i will have to save up over 100 dollars to get the stadium w/ galaxy peg and so i can also purchase meteo l drago. i dont even know if all the christmas money i'll get will cover it
i dont see why the WBO is so arrogant and stingy as to NOT wanting to welcome new bladers cuz they don't/ can't afford a TT attack stadium. why doesn't the WBO want to create a 3rd set of rules?
beats me....
As for why this thread is still open, I simply do not want to make it seem, to some people, that we are restricting their freedom of speech by saying : "No we will not do this. Locked." Although admittedly, at this point, I am probably going to move it to the Advanced Forum soon, with posts like the one I quoted ...
kai v, i think i might have been quoting the wrong person, sorry!!
can there be a "Hasbro Beyblade Customization" section as well?
i am sort of seeing what you are saying now, but why does EVERYTHING the WBO does have to make profit, isn't beyblade supposed to be a fun hobby, not an extremely competitive, no fun, high profit hobby?
and i have read all the posts in this topic, its a good'un