(Mar. 30, 2018  4:12 PM)Skuldless Wrote: Maybe they don't want to eclipse yet the god gen and give us better releases by power/weight creeping and balancing the next month releases

(Mar. 20, 2018  5:01 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:26 PM)KnightPro Wrote: I'm very curious about this but is there a reason people don't want Super Z to outclass the god series?? It's gonna happen anyways lol

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:32 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:26 PM)KnightPro Wrote: I'm very curious about this but is there a reason people don't want Super Z to outclass the god series?? It's gonna happen anyways lol

I don't think it's that people don't want Super Z to outclass the God series as much as they're worried about how fast their current parts will go obsolete. You know, it's a bummer if the first beys make it that you have to buy totally new ones.

Of course, buying new ones is inevitable, but if it's like, "You have to buy new ones now, right away, else don't bother playing," that can be a real turn off, you know?

(Mar. 30, 2018  5:25 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:32 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: I don't think it's that people don't want Super Z to outclass the God series as much as they're worried about how fast their current parts will go obsolete. You know, it's a bummer if the first beys make it that you have to buy totally new ones.

Of course, buying new ones is inevitable, but if it's like, "You have to buy new ones now, right away, else don't bother playing," that can be a real turn off, you know?

it’s a turn off for some
but a turn on for others 

either way, that scenario has been the defacto standard for many years:

new series = new levels of performance right away

that’s not the case with super-z

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of course the future holds possible solutions for every problem...

but that doesn’t explain 12, which is a bonefied PR disaster even at beyblade’s limited scale

(Mar. 30, 2018  5:25 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:32 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: I don't think it's that people don't want Super Z to outclass the God series as much as they're worried about how fast their current parts will go obsolete. You know, it's a bummer if the first beys make it that you have to buy totally new ones.

Of course, buying new ones is inevitable, but if it's like, "You have to buy new ones now, right away, else don't bother playing," that can be a real turn off, you know?

it’s a turn off for some
but a turn on for others 

either way, that scenario has been the defacto standard for many years:

new series = new levels of performance right away

that’s not the case with super-z

—-

of course the future holds possible solutions for every problem...

but that doesn’t explain existing/potential 12 issue, which is a bonefied PR disaster even at beyblade’s limited scale

(Mar. 30, 2018  6:05 PM)Limetka Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  5:25 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: it’s a turn off for some
but a turn on for others 

either way, that scenario has been the defacto standard for many years:

new series = new levels of performance right away

that’s not the case with super-z

—-

of course the future holds possible solutions for every problem...

but that doesn’t explain existing/potential 12 issue, which is a bonefied PR disaster even at beyblade’s limited scale

you are the only person here who claims the new beys aren't strong, literally repeating it again and again without any evidence

(Mar. 30, 2018  6:51 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  6:05 PM)Limetka Wrote: you are the only person here who claims the new beys aren't strong, literally repeating it again and again without any evidence

i’m not saying they are not strong. 

they are strong and can beats lots of things. 

however, i don’t see the current competitive game as being changed current super-z. 

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further, you may think i’m the only one pointing this out

but i’d ask you to point out who *is* proving these current super-z beys change the competitive landscape?

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i love TT beys and EMS’d 6 super-z beys as a preorder. and i buy every bey whether it’s competitive or not. 

so please do not misunderstand me as a super-z hater

also, i reserve the right to be wrong about current super-z beys, in fact i’d be happy about it.

(Mar. 31, 2018  1:50 PM)Bastillon Wrote: I'm not sure if making the level chip a tournament exclusive is a good idea. This just alienates the majority of their customers. Hopefully TT will agree to release the level chip as a part of another beyblade set.

(Mar. 31, 2018  2:19 PM)K1D Wrote:

(Mar. 31, 2018  1:50 PM)Bastillon Wrote: I'm not sure if making the level chip a tournament exclusive is a good idea. This just alienates the majority of their customers. Hopefully TT will agree to release the level chip as a part of another beyblade set.

They'll prob release it in a "level up" set. 
I'd assume it'd come with wV,zA,eF and three level chips in blue (wV),red (zA), black (eF)

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:32 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:26 PM)KnightPro Wrote: I'm very curious about this but is there a reason people don't want Super Z to outclass the god series?? It's gonna happen anyways lol

I don't think it's that people don't want Super Z to outclass the God series as much as they're worried about how fast their current parts will go obsolete. You know, it's a bummer if the first beys make it that you have to buy totally new ones.

Of course, buying new ones is inevitable, but if it's like, "You have to buy new ones now, right away, else don't bother playing," that can be a real turn off, you know?

(Apr. 01, 2018  3:03 AM)BladerGem Wrote: Maybe people don't want Super-Z to outclass God because the rest of the world isn't even halfway through the God line to begin with? Not everyone is willing to/has the money to throw $30 at every new bey that TT releases.

There's quite a few people that only use/can afford Hasbro, myself included. But what's the point in waiting for Hasbro to finish releasing the God series if it's already a season behind, AND it's no longer viable?

(Apr. 01, 2018  4:05 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Apr. 01, 2018  3:03 AM)BladerGem Wrote: Maybe people don't want Super-Z to outclass God because the rest of the world isn't even halfway through the God line to begin with? Not everyone is willing to/has the money to throw $30 at every new bey that TT releases.

There's quite a few people that only use/can afford Hasbro, myself included. But what's the point in waiting for Hasbro to finish releasing the God series if it's already a season behind, AND it's no longer viable?

People who choose Hasbro, for whatever reason it is, should consider sticking to a Hasbro-only format so they don't have to worry about TT.

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Because yeah, it's not worth stressing over TT if TT is too much or you just don't/can't have it. You focus on what you can do and what you can control.

(Apr. 01, 2018  3:03 AM)BladerGem Wrote:

(Mar. 30, 2018  4:32 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: I don't think it's that people don't want Super Z to outclass the God series as much as they're worried about how fast their current parts will go obsolete. You know, it's a bummer if the first beys make it that you have to buy totally new ones.

Of course, buying new ones is inevitable, but if it's like, "You have to buy new ones now, right away, else don't bother playing," that can be a real turn off, you know?

Maybe people don't want Super-Z to outclass God because the rest of the world isn't even halfway through the God line to begin with? Not everyone is willing to/has the money to throw $30 at every new bey that TT releases.

There's quite a few people that only use/can afford Hasbro, myself included. But what's the point in waiting for Hasbro to finish releasing the God series if it's already a season behind, AND it's no longer viable?

(Apr. 01, 2018  8:28 AM)BladerGem Wrote:

(Apr. 01, 2018  4:05 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote: People who choose Hasbro, for whatever reason it is, should consider sticking to a Hasbro-only format so they don't have to worry about TT.

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Because yeah, it's not worth stressing over TT if TT is too much or you just don't/can't have it. You focus on what you can do and what you can control.

Except for the part where you can't control what format the tournament is in...

(Apr. 02, 2018  4:37 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote:

(Apr. 01, 2018  8:28 AM)BladerGem Wrote: Except for the part where you can't control what format the tournament is in...

You can't control the format someone else does, that is true, but you aren't powerless entirely. Instead, you make the effort to get a Hasbro-only tournament going. Whoever runs the standard tournament might be willing to help out.

(Apr. 02, 2018  12:35 PM)iiggoor Wrote:

(Apr. 02, 2018  4:37 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote: You can't control the format someone else does, that is true, but you aren't powerless entirely. Instead, you make the effort to get a Hasbro-only tournament going. Whoever runs the standard tournament might be willing to help out.

In my country tournaments are organized by toys store chain which sells Hasbro products. Takara is not prohibited, but rarely used because not sold here.
I did buy some of Takara beyblades online, but pushing my son not to use them at tournaments because of respecting organizer's advertising intentions.

(Apr. 02, 2018  1:13 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: ... but i’m not sure if placing the store’s perceived intentions over anything else is a good idea.

(Apr. 02, 2018  1:13 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: ... and i’d be reluctant to leave TT beys at home on tournament day.

(Apr. 02, 2018  4:19 PM)Naruto 1 Wrote: chouzetsu means super tongue guys thats what google said

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(Apr. 02, 2018  4:19 PM)Naruto 1 Wrote: chouzetsu means super tongue guys thats what google said

(Apr. 02, 2018  12:35 PM)iiggoor Wrote:

(Apr. 02, 2018  4:37 AM)Frostic Fox Wrote: You can't control the format someone else does, that is true, but you aren't powerless entirely. Instead, you make the effort to get a Hasbro-only tournament going. Whoever runs the standard tournament might be willing to help out.

In my country tournaments are organized by toys store chain which sells Hasbro products. Takara is not prohibited, but rarely used because not sold here.
I did buy some of Takara beyblades online, but pushing my son not to use them at tournaments because of respecting organizer's advertising intentions.