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RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Nano - Apr. 17, 2011
Loving the results. I need to get the parts for this ASAP.
I see potential for this combo ^^
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Apr. 17, 2011
Thanks Nano. Shame McFrown hasn't been too active to see this/post results recently.
I did banking to help it KO though.. :V Like an attack type.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Shabalabadoo - Apr. 17, 2011
(Apr. 17, 2011 3:39 AM)Dan Wrote: I did banking to help it KO though.. :V Like an attack type.
but are attack types always supposed to KO?
Think about that
It's an attack vs attack battle, things roll differently in that part of town.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Azlanslayer - Apr. 17, 2011
Yay for tests!!
Standard Procedure
LL-Drago in Upper Mode
WB slide shot
MF-F Lightning L-Drago 90XF Vs MF-H Basalt Aquario 85WB
MF-F Lightning L-Drago: 1 win (0 OS, 1 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario: 9 wins (5 OS, 4 KO)
1 Draw
Win Percentage: 10%
My 'Control Tests'
MF Lightning L-Drago 90XF Vs MF-H Basalt Aquario 85WB
MF Lightning L-Drago: 4 win (0 OS, 4 KO)
MF-H Basalt Aquario: 6 wins (5 OS, 1 KO)
1 Draw
Win Percentage: 40%
There were less recoil in MF LL-Drago, that leads to have 30% more KOs. MF-F is too light IMO, LL-Drago hits Basalt and ends up going out instead.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mr. N - Apr. 17, 2011
(Apr. 17, 2011 3:45 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote:(Apr. 17, 2011 3:39 AM)Dan Wrote: I did banking to help it KO though.. :V Like an attack type.
but are attack types always supposed to KO?
Think about that
It's an attack vs attack battle, things roll differently in that part of town.
Should I Alternate Launches, Launch Basalt first, or Launch Basalt second?
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Apr. 17, 2011
Yeah I've been thinking about that for awhile now.
In response to SSJ: If I don't bank Basalt, chances are it wouldn't win at all..
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Shabalabadoo - Apr. 17, 2011
(Apr. 17, 2011 12:50 PM)Dan Wrote: In response to SSJ: If I don't bank Basalt, chances are it wouldn't win at all..
but have you tried?
Try out different launchers, winders, different everything until you find what's right for you and anti meta.
It doesn't seem like a straight shot would help, but combined with a weaker launch(not too weak), it makes a hell of a difference
I'm pretty sure on either yamislayer or digerGt's YouTube channel there's videos of tournaments where combos like this were used.
See them work, it's pretty cool IMO
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Apr. 17, 2011
No I haven't, I just assumed.
By the way, MF Meteo LDrago CH120XF is pretty good; it picks up where Lightning lacks in LTDC's, but unfortunately suffers a bit when against other attack combos.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mr. N - Apr. 17, 2011
(Apr. 17, 2011 6:16 PM)Dan Wrote: No I haven't, I just assumed.
By the way, MF Meteo LDrago CH120XF is pretty good; it picks up where Lightning lacks in LTDC's, but unfortunately suffers a bit when against other attack combos.
Do you want me to test it?
Anyways, I redid the tests with MF Basalt Horogium 85RF.
MF Lightning L-Drago CH120R²F VS MF Basalt Horogium 85RF
Standard Procedures
Basalt Horogium Always Launched 85% First In The Center Of The Stadium
Lightning L-Drago Win Rate - 0%
MF-F Lightning L-Drago CH120XF VS MF Basalt Horogium 85RF
Standard Procedrues
Basalt Horogium Always Launched 85% First In The Center Of The Stadium
Lightning L-Drago Win Rate - 20% (2KOs)
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Apr. 17, 2011
I'll test it on my own, first but sure, go ahead.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - May. 07, 2011
Did some anti-meta of my own:
MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF vs. MF-H Earth Kerbecs 100R²F
MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF win rate: 10/20
MF-H Earth Kerbecs 100R²F win rate: 10/20
RF win percentage: 50%
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF-H Earth Kerbecs 100R²F
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 11/20
MF-H Earth Kerbecs 100R²F win rate: 9/20
XF win percentage: 55%
Very close, that is for sure. This combination is far from dead, people, it has a whole lot more smash that Maximum Meteor does. If you want a more aggressive XF combination, this is it.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - theunderdog - May. 08, 2011
You Did 21 matches out of 20 how come?
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - GaleForce - May. 08, 2011
Probably because of a draw.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Pimpju - May. 08, 2011
Probably a typo.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - May. 08, 2011
Typo, lmao. C+P mess up.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Jun. 03, 2011
Okay, though I've sort of moved to MM I haven't forgotten this combination at all.
I wanted to bring up the point of what seem to be lack-luster results in the OP, it is 100% because I used an out of box CS which has absolutely amazing defensive capabilities, enough for me to come back a couple months later and show you all the difference between the mint results and the worn results of CS. 100% same parts used:
Original Results with out-of-box CS:
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF Earth Cancer 230CS
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 7/10
MF Earth Cancer 230CS win rate: 3/10
Win percent: 70%
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost)
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 5/10
MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 5/10
Win percent: 50%
New results, with worn CS:
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF Earth Cancer 230CS
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 10/10
MF Earth Cancer 230CS win rate: 0/10
Win percent: 100%
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF vs. MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost)
MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF win rate: 8/10
MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 2/10
Win percent: 80%
Seems to be a good 30% difference, which is absolutely astounding. I honestly think that a out-of-box CS is better than an RS any day!
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mc Frown - Jun. 03, 2011
I still really love this combo.
As long as it keeps moving and doesnt get hit during those traction gaining pauses itll knock out anything.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Jun. 03, 2011
Haha yeah. Ever tried hard banking? Much longer pause than RF, but if you manage to hit something, it tends to be all over for the opponent, if not, HD will go ape-carp and self-KO. The MLD variant is more of a 'watch opponent breakdown' combo, while this is a light-weight(ish) fierce combination.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mc Frown - Jun. 03, 2011
I'd be sort of interested to see Someface Virgo sometrackXF. But yeah I feel like XF doesn't work good with Metal Wheels. I think it works nicely with MLD and LLD because they hit with the Clear Wheel.
We really need more attacking clear wheels.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Jun. 03, 2011
Should I make a video? Tell me what combination if so, 'cuz I'm itching to make one on both of theseXF combinations.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mc Frown - Jun. 03, 2011
Um I already have MF-F LLDrago Ch120XF video but you could make another one with better opponenbt combos.
Also, MF-H LL Drago (lowtrackor145)XF seems like it could be a threat.
Test everything :3
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - TITAN - Jun. 03, 2011
Isn't this MM with LLD instead of MLD? Still a good combo, but isn't MM better?
EDIT:Beaten.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Mc Frown - Jun. 03, 2011
Yeach except I made this in like November which was a lot before Maximum Meteor or w/e.
And I cannot verify which is 'better'.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Dan - Jun. 03, 2011
Yeah, I got the idea of MM from this combination, but MM seems to do better against some rather annoying combinations though people always whine saying that if it isn't winning through KO, it isn't an 'attacker' etc.
This this is a complete attacker in all ways.
So; MF-H LLD 90/DF105XF sound good? lol. I'll test right now.
RE: The Homing Dragon: MF-F Lightning LDrago CH120XF. - Kai-V - Jun. 04, 2011
A reminder : no "MM" or "Maximum Meteor" anymore ...