(Dec. 11, 2015  12:27 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: I am not sure why people so often assume their posts have been ignored just because they weren't directly replied to. Since that's what Kai-V actually thinks about the matter, I suspect her reply would have been the same whether or not you had responded!

That said, I am not sure your metaphor works. A more apt metaphor would be whether a teacher who never shows up to teach anything should keep his job or not There was never any mention of stripping people of their mentor status just because they're not into Burst.

(Dec. 10, 2015  11:29 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:

Quote:Was suggesting that you focus on raising the interest slightly.

How? And why?

Quote:Right now, for lack of better words, it just seems as if hosting a Plastics or HMS Tournament is slightly discouraged.

Why do you think so, other than the fact that there isn't a ranking system for it?

Worth mentioning that we did a pretty big push in July but there weren't a lot of events, and while I can't speak for other communities, the tournament here in Montreal was the furthest thing from competitive: almost everyone played with cobbled together combos.

(Dec. 11, 2015  1:00 AM)Neo Wrote: Because besides a few people, and before Burst, I felt this was moreso like the MFB Organization.

(Dec. 11, 2015  1:00 AM)Neo Wrote: I'm asking myself right now if it's a lack of interest from the people, or the WBO. Or am I creating a problem in my head about this?

(Dec. 11, 2015  1:56 AM)*Ginga* Wrote:

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I am all for Plastics and HMS tournaments, but I think you're being a bit ridiculous. We've never had a format for them, and never will. The interest will never be there, even with a "little nudge" (and even a nudge wouldn't do it. Brad clearly mentioned Plastics and HMS Remembrance Day as a "pretty big push"). It's expensive, and with asking most players to split their money on a clearly less prioritized format is absolutely crazy. I don't know if you've noticed, but almost everyone that actively plays HMS/Plastics on a competitive level has an income that allows them to do so. Most players simply do not have the money or the time to get competitive in these formats. You said it yourself : You have to know where to look and when to strike. Asking this of the average player is simply too much.

(Dec. 11, 2015  1:00 AM)Neo Wrote: Because besides a few people, and before Burst, I felt this was moreso like the MFB Organization.

Seriously? You are starting to get selfish. We clearly have rewards for people who participate in these tournaments. Multiple Face Boosters, very expensive prizes over the years (sometimes even at the cost of the staff's own wallets), along with multitudes of other things. The WBO isn't about tournaments. Sure, that is a large aspect, but we have forums dedicated to these formats, and because of this, we are literally catering to a select group of people, not the general populous.

(Dec. 11, 2015  1:00 AM)Neo Wrote: I'm asking myself right now if it's a lack of interest from the people, or the WBO. Or am I creating a problem in my head about this?

Obviously the people. The WBO has done, like I said above, multitudes of things to cater to a select group of people and try to reach to a broader audience, but eventually only the person themselves decides if they want to spend at least $50 - $100 just to get competitive in these formats. So I would say yes, this is a made up problem, at least in my mind.

If you think I'm biased towards Burst or MFB in anyway, I certainly am not. HMS is my favorite system by far, and the fact that I've spend over $1000 on HMS alone attests to this. I'm just being realistic, that's all.

(Dec. 11, 2015  2:05 AM)Kai-V Wrote: And I mean, nobody even commented on the 3D-printed Attack Rings being offered by Naijalak for prizes in the Scavenger Hunt even though they are super cool ... Even if they would not be legal for tournaments, this is novelty that should excite, and they would probably excite more people if they were parts from Metal Fight Beyblade or Beyblade Burst.

(Dec. 11, 2015  2:26 AM)*Ginga* Wrote: People already get those boosters for placing at Plastics and HMS tournaments, year round.

(Dec. 11, 2015  2:34 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: The issue isn't the lack of an incentive. It's a lack of demand.

(Dec. 11, 2015  2:52 PM)Neo Wrote:

(Dec. 11, 2015  2:34 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: The issue isn't the lack of an incentive. It's a lack of demand.

Thanks for answering so far, I was a little too hardheaded yesterday.

So let's say hypothetically, I had hosted before. Would you hold a stigma towards me hosting a PLA or HMS formatted tournament? Like, you wouldn't tell me to host another format instead, right? That is, if the people coming would already be interested in playing those formats.
But what if I haven't hosted a tournament before, (this is the case, but still hypothetical) would you want me to not host PLA or HMS for my first tournament, if that's what I pitched? Would you have preferred me to play something more modern?

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:42 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Personally, wouldn´t see any problem in introducing "Rememberence Tournaments": Oficially hosted PLA+HMS tourneys, but without any ranking system. Only the usual gold/silver/bronze faces, but no physical prizes.

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:47 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:42 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Personally, wouldn´t see any problem in introducing "Rememberence Tournaments": Oficially hosted PLA+HMS tourneys, but without any ranking system. Only the usual gold/silver/bronze faces, but no physical prizes.

This is how things already are, and we literally hosted a special "remembrance" period for plastics and HMS tournaments, in the middle of summer: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-HMS-Plastics-Remembrance-Day-New-WBO-Authorized-Dealer-taka-ohno-more

Neo, if you want to host a plastics and/or HMS tournament, post it up in the event proposals section.

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:52 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Oh, I thought you still got credits for winning those tournaments. My bad.

(Dec. 11, 2015  4:06 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:52 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Oh, I thought you still got credits for winning those tournaments. My bad.

Not sure what you mean; Credits are distributed in the same way across every format.

(Dec. 10, 2015  8:42 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: Sure. There's a few reasons:

• Obviously, yes, one of the major limitations is that that the playerbase of Beyblade in general right now is very small; the number of Bladers who could really compete in Plastics/HMS events is incredibly minimal
  
• Because of the high cost, we can't offer any meaningful prize support for Plastics/HMS events
  
• As many Bladers have noticed, we have yet to build out a separate ranking system for Burst; ranking plastics and HMS would require is to build even more ranking systems
  

Ultimately, to try and build a real competitive system around Plastics/HMS would be a ton of work that benefits an extremely small group of people. We will continue to host plastics and HMS events when there is demand, but no matter what we do, it would never be a "competitive" environment in the first place for more than a vanishingly small handful of people.

(Dec. 11, 2015  3:56 PM)Kai-V Wrote: For me, all of this past discussion is incredible because it looks like a lot of information about our activities has totally escaped you guys hah.

(Dec. 18, 2015  7:46 PM)DRAGON KING EX Wrote: I see Arupaeo was removed from the committee, did he come back and say he was done ? Seems rude for someone with a high rank to just disappear with no trace