(Nov. 14, 2020  2:27 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  2:27 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: My mom says not to watch beyblade but I do it either way

why

(Nov. 14, 2020  2:28 AM)EarthHelios Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  2:27 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: why

cause she doesnt like me watching it

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:38 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  2:28 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: cause she doesnt like me watching it

sad.

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:38 AM)EarthHelios Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:38 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: sad.

But Im sneaky and I watch beyblade

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:43 AM)beykid44 Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:38 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: But Im sneaky and I watch beyblade

WHY DOESNT SHE LIKE IT ASK HER AND TELL ME PLS

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:44 AM)EarthHelios Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:43 AM)beykid44 Wrote: WHY DOESNT SHE LIKE IT ASK HER AND TELL ME PLS

Idk why. But I watch beyblade when she isnt looking

(Nov. 14, 2020  6:25 AM)i'm batman Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  5:44 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: Idk why. But I watch beyblade when she isnt looking

My mom doesn't like beyblade because the first beyblade ep i watched was the one where Kurt was introduced, so between his appearance and the underground blading ring, she decided it was a bad influence. But I still watch it. Why? BECAUSE I'M BATMAN EVIL >

(Nov. 14, 2020  6:26 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  6:25 AM)i\m batman Wrote: My mom doesn't like beyblade because the first beyblade ep i watched was the one where Kurt was introduced, so between his appearance and the underground blading ring, she decided it was a bad influence. But I still watch it. Why? BECAUSE I'M BATMAN EVIL >

There can only be one Batman and that’s

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you

(Nov. 14, 2020  6:31 AM)i'm batman Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  6:26 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: There can only be one Batman and that’s

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you

lol thanks

BTW why does the beywiki have Lui in the category World Champions?

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote: they could have easily let him lose to either Sisco or Joshua in s2 during the god bladers cup but made up dumb excuses to let him win.

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

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Unpopular opinion: Free is a fairly overrated character who is a writers pet. Out of the super popular left spin trio (Lui, Shu and Free) I honestly don’t see his appeal much. I believe that the primary reason why he was even all too popular at all was because he had a left spin dragon beyblade and it’s pretty evident from the fact that the popularity of Shu, Lui and Free has decently decreased since left spin beys have become more mainstream, yes they are still very popular but it’s more toned down nowadays and other characters have been starting to get favoured as well such as Wakiya, Boa, Phi, Rantaro etc (you get my point). The thing is though, Lui and Shu definitely have claim to their fame since they are actually interesting characters with noticeable development and depth to their personalities- I legitimately love their characters and find them fun to watch even if they are/were somewhat overrated. Meanwhile we have Free, I think Free is definitely a creative character with his quiet but observant personality and masterful outlook but he kind of just seems bland to me. He also learns not too underestimate opponents and have fun during s2 but it’s almost as if he kinda forgets about these qualities in s3 and s5. He again underestimates opponents and retains his bland and boring persona making him seem like an irrational powerhouse. The writers also seem to kinda give Free and unnecessary edge when it isn’t needed, for example; they could have easily let him lose to either Sisco or Joshua in s2 during the god bladers cup but made up dumb excuses to let him win. In s5 he beats the brothers a whole bunch of times (far more than other legends) only to lose by knockout even after getting double teamed- not to mention even after all the other legends lose by burst (except for Aiga who lost by a spin finish, but it’s understandable as it was a battle royale and his debut episode). He also beat Silas in the bc-sol tag battle episode even though Silas trained really hard and even had that whole character reflection to his ultimate goal to beat Free just to lose. I understand that Valt and Free had to win in order for Valt to progress but it was as simple as switching the partners of  Free and Silas. As a matter of fact, Free hasn’t even had his bey burst yet. All in all I personally feel that Free isn’t all that special and is ultimately kind of a Gary Stu.

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

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Unpopular opinion: Free is a fairly overrated character who is a writers pet. Out of the super popular left spin trio (Lui, Shu and Free) I honestly don’t see his appeal much. I believe that the primary reason why he was even all too popular at all was because he had a left spin dragon beyblade and it’s pretty evident from the fact that the popularity of Shu, Lui and Free has decently decreased since left spin beys have become more mainstream, yes they are still very popular but it’s more toned down nowadays and other characters have been starting to get favoured as well such as Wakiya, Boa, Phi, Rantaro etc (you get my point). The thing is though, Lui and Shu definitely have claim to their fame since they are actually interesting characters with noticeable development and depth to their personalities- I legitimately love their characters and find them fun to watch even if they are/were somewhat overrated. Meanwhile we have Free, I think Free is definitely a creative character with his quiet but observant personality and masterful outlook but he kind of just seems bland to me. He also learns not too underestimate opponents and have fun during s2 but it’s almost as if he kinda forgets about these qualities in s3 and s5. He again underestimates opponents and retains his bland and boring persona making him seem like an irrational powerhouse. The writers also seem to kinda give Free and unnecessary edge when it isn’t needed, for example; they could have easily let him lose to either Sisco or Joshua in s2 during the god bladers cup but made up dumb excuses to let him win. In s5 he beats the brothers a whole bunch of times (far more than other legends) only to lose by knockout even after getting double teamed- not to mention even after all the other legends lose by burst (except for Aiga who lost by a spin finish, but it’s understandable as it was a battle royale and his debut episode). He also beat Silas in the bc-sol tag battle episode even though Silas trained really hard and even had that whole character reflection to his ultimate goal to beat Free just to lose. I understand that Valt and Free had to win in order for Valt to progress but it was as simple as switching the partners of  Free and Silas. As a matter of fact, Free hasn’t even had his bey burst yet. All in all I personally feel that Free isn’t all that special and is ultimately kind of a Gary Stu.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there. I think Free can be a tad bit overrated at times, and his entire "Oh well, I'll just figure some random strategy I pulled out of nowhere to defeat my opponents" shtick can get really old when done too much (I still think his use of "Geist Counter" against Kyle was such a lame move).

Make no mistake, I think he's a good character with a cool personality and some really awesome moments, but I think he was at his best in Beyblade Burst God. In the Cho-Z anime though, he was honestly kind of boring there and the only time he was interesting in that season was in his battle against Phi. In Sparking, he was fine and had some interesting backstory with his battle against Lean but nothing has come from it so far (though maybe we will get more later on) and despite his development of not underestimating his opponents, he still maintains the same smug attitude towards Sisco despite how close Sisco was to defeating him.

The reason I prefer Fumiya slightly (besides his more eccentric personality and humour) is because he was the first left-rotating spin stealing blader who wasn't broken, was heavily flawed and showed that he couldn't just pull random strategies out of nowhere and somehow win. Whenever Fumiya lost (which is quite oftenly lol), it felt like it addresses all of the weaknesses spin-stealing beys would have. With Free, he somehow manages to survive with pure luck or because the characters who had perfect strategies against Free decide to be idiots and go on the offense last minute (aka Joshua and Sisco).

EDIT: I'm not saying Free isn't strong or talented, he definitely is. But a lot of times where he could've lost, he somehow hangs out much longer than anyone else. Yeah, I get that his entire character is being able to work with his shortcomings, but the show never treats these shortcoming as such.

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:13 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: Free was ok I liked him bc he was cocky and calm not only that he was the second side of Ryuga and the battle with Joshua well I can’t say much but I can’t see Free losing to a trash irrelevant blader like Joshua not only that he seemed to have had a counter of it as for Silas Free was just toying with him if Free went all in he would have bodied Silas in Sparking I think Silas should have won just that one time but him training to beat Free never guarantees if he wins I won’t talk about Fumiya as much but all I’ll say is that he was the most boring character I have ever seen in burst easily my top 3 hated characters  close to Kyle back in Cho-Z

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

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Unpopular opinion: Free is a fairly overrated character who is a writers pet. Out of the super popular left spin trio (Lui, Shu and Free) I honestly don’t see his appeal much. I believe that the primary reason why he was even all too popular at all was because he had a left spin dragon beyblade and it’s pretty evident from the fact that the popularity of Shu, Lui and Free has decently decreased since left spin beys have become more mainstream, yes they are still very popular but it’s more toned down nowadays and other characters have been starting to get favoured as well such as Wakiya, Boa, Phi, Rantaro etc (you get my point). The thing is though, Lui and Shu definitely have claim to their fame since they are actually interesting characters with noticeable development and depth to their personalities- I legitimately love their characters and find them fun to watch even if they are/were somewhat overrated. Meanwhile we have Free, I think Free is definitely a creative character with his quiet but observant personality and masterful outlook but he kind of just seems bland to me. He also learns not to underestimate opponents and have fun during s2 but it’s almost as if he kinda forgets about these qualities in s3 and s5. He again underestimates opponents and retains his bland and boring persona making him seem like an irrational powerhouse. The writers also seem to kinda give Free an unnecessary edge when it isn’t needed, for example; they could have easily let him lose to either Silas or Joshua in s2 during the god bladers cup but made up dumb excuses to let him win. In s5 he beats the brothers a whole bunch of times (far more than other legends) only to lose by knockout even after getting double teamed- not to mention even after all the other legends lose by burst (except for Aiga who lost by a spin finish, but it’s understandable as it was a battle royale and his debut episode). He also beat Silas in the bc-sol tag battle episode even though Silas trained really hard and even had that whole character reflection to his ultimate goal to beat Free just to lose. I understand that Valt and Free had to win in order for Valt to progress but it was as simple as switching the partners of Free and Silas. As a matter of fact, Free hasn’t even had his bey burst yet. All in all I personally feel that Free isn’t all that special and is ultimately kind of a Gary Stu.

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:15 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:13 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: Free was ok I liked him bc he was cocky and calm not only that he was the second side of Ryuga and the battle with Joshua well I can’t say much but I can’t see Free losing to a trash irrelevant blader like Joshua not only that he seemed to have had a counter of it as for Silas Free was just toying with him if Free went all in he would have bodied Silas in Sparking I think Silas should have won just that one time but him training to beat Free never guarantees if he wins I won’t talk about Fumiya as much but all I’ll say is that he was the most boring character I have ever seen in burst easily my top 3 hated characters  close to Kyle back in Cho-Z

I mean in s2 it seemed like the writers often made Free pull a lot of his strategies straight out of nothing just for the sake of letting him win.

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

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Unpopular opinion: Free is a fairly overrated character who is a writers pet. Out of the super popular left spin trio (Lui, Shu and Free) I honestly don’t see his appeal much. I believe that the primary reason why he was even all too popular at all was because he had a left spin dragon beyblade and it’s pretty evident from the fact that the popularity of Shu, Lui and Free has decently decreased since left spin beys have become more mainstream, yes they are still very popular but it’s more toned down nowadays and other characters have been starting to get favoured as well such as Wakiya, Boa, Phi, Rantaro etc (you get my point). The thing is though, Lui and Shu definitely have claim to their fame since they are actually interesting characters with noticeable development and depth to their personalities- I legitimately love their characters and find them fun to watch even if they are/were somewhat overrated. Meanwhile we have Free, I think Free is definitely a creative character with his quiet but observant personality and masterful outlook but he kind of just seems bland to me. He also learns not too underestimate opponents and have fun during s2 but it’s almost as if he kinda forgets about these qualities in s3 and s5. He again underestimates opponents and retains his bland and boring persona making him seem like an irrational powerhouse. The writers also seem to kinda give Free and unnecessary edge when it isn’t needed, for example; they could have easily let him lose to either Sisco or Joshua in s2 during the god bladers cup but made up dumb excuses to let him win. In s5 he beats the brothers a whole bunch of times (far more than other legends) only to lose by knockout even after getting double teamed- not to mention even after all the other legends lose by burst (except for Aiga who lost by a spin finish, but it’s understandable as it was a battle royale and his debut episode). He also beat Silas in the bc-sol tag battle episode even though Silas trained really hard and even had that whole character reflection to his ultimate goal to beat Free just to lose. I understand that Valt and Free had to win in order for Valt to progress but it was as simple as switching the partners of  Free and Silas. As a matter of fact, Free hasn’t even had his bey burst yet. All in all I personally feel that Free isn’t all that special and is ultimately kind of a Gary Stu.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there. I think Free can be a tad bit overrated at times, and his entire "Oh well, I'll just figure some random strategy I pulled out of nowhere to defeat my opponents" shtick can get really old when done too much (I still think his use of "Geist Counter" against Kyle was such a lame move).

Make no mistake, I think he's a good character with a cool personality and some really awesome moments, but I think he was at his best in Beyblade Burst God. In the Cho-Z anime though, he was honestly kind of boring there and the only time he was interesting in that season was in his battle against Phi. In Sparking, he was fine and had some interesting backstory with his battle against Lean but nothing has come from it so far (though maybe we will get more later on) and despite his development of not underestimating his opponents, he still maintains the same smug attitude towards Sisco despite how close Sisco was to defeating him.

The reason I prefer Fumiya slightly (besides his more eccentric personality and humour) is because he was the first left-rotating spin stealing blader who wasn't broken, was heavily flawed and showed that he couldn't just pull random strategies out of nowhere and somehow win. Whenever Fumiya lost (which is quite oftenly lol), it felt like it addresses all of the weaknesses spin-stealing beys would have. With Free, he somehow manages to survive with pure luck or because the characters who had perfect strategies against Free decide to be idiots and go on the offense last minute (aka Joshua and Sisco).

EDIT: I'm not saying Free isn't strong or talented, he definitely is. But a lot of times where he could've lost, he somehow hangs out much longer than anyone else. Yeah, I get that his entire character is being able to work with his shortcomings, but the show never treats these shortcoming as such.

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:27 AM)Limetka Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there. I think Free can be a tad bit overrated at times, and his entire "Oh well, I'll just figure some random strategy I pulled out of nowhere to defeat my opponents" shtick can get really old when done too much (I still think his use of "Geist Counter" against Kyle was such a lame move).

Make no mistake, I think he's a good character with a cool personality and some really awesome moments, but I think he was at his best in Beyblade Burst God. In the Cho-Z anime though, he was honestly kind of boring there and the only time he was interesting in that season was in his battle against Phi. In Sparking, he was fine and had some interesting backstory with his battle against Lean but nothing has come from it so far (though maybe we will get more later on) and despite his development of not underestimating his opponents, he still maintains the same smug attitude towards Sisco despite how close Sisco was to defeating him.

The reason I prefer Fumiya slightly (besides his more eccentric personality and humour) is because he was the first left-rotating spin stealing blader who wasn't broken, was heavily flawed and showed that he couldn't just pull random strategies out of nowhere and somehow win. Whenever Fumiya lost (which is quite oftenly lol), it felt like it addresses all of the weaknesses spin-stealing beys would have. With Free, he somehow manages to survive with pure luck or because the characters who had perfect strategies against Free decide to be idiots and go on the offense last minute (aka Joshua and Sisco).

EDIT: I'm not saying Free isn't strong or talented, he definitely is. But a lot of times where he could've lost, he somehow hangs out much longer than anyone else. Yeah, I get that his entire character is being able to work with his shortcomings, but the show never treats these shortcoming as such.

While I too prefer Fumiya a lot more, I feel like you guys are underestimating Free a lot if you think that all you need to defeat him is to deal with his drain spin. Let's take the battle with Joshua. People say that if only he had kept at his initial strategy he would win, but that's not really the case. If Joshua had kept at it he would be forced to use Nothing Break, which in the end, would change pretty much nothing (althought he wouldn't be able to use it to surprise Lui anymore, so that would be really interesting I guess). But he's not stupid, he realized that Joshua's not going to stay composed, so there's no need to really do anything.

He's generally really adaptive too and is capable of changing his strategy based on his opponent's strategy, like he did in that legendary battle back in God Bladers Cup. So there's no reason to not weak launch if he knows that Hyuga is stupid enough to attack him.

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:34 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:27 AM)Limetka Wrote: While I too prefer Fumiya a lot more, I feel like you guys are underestimating Free a lot if you think that all you need to defeat him is to deal with his drain spin. Let's take the battle with Joshua. People say that if only he had kept at his initial strategy he would win, but that's not really the case. If Joshua had kept at it he would be forced to use Nothing Break, which in the end, would change pretty much nothing (althought he wouldn't be able to use it to surprise Lui anymore, so that would be really interesting I guess). But he's not stupid, he realized that Joshua's not going to stay composed, so there's no need to really do anything.

He's generally really adaptive too and is capable of changing his strategy based on his opponent's strategy, like he did in that legendary battle back in God Bladers Cup. So there's no reason to not weak launch if he knows that Hyuga is stupid enough to attack him.

I wouldn’t calm it underestimating, the root of the problem is that the writers unnecessarily buff Free during various moments in the anime where he doesn’t HAVE to succeed. As I said earlier, it just screams irrational powerhouse.

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:54 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:34 AM)Zeutron Wrote: I wouldn’t calm it underestimating, the root of the problem is that the writers unnecessarily buff Free during various moments in the anime where he doesn’t HAVE to succeed. As I said earlier, it just screams irrational powerhouse.

Just to make it fair Lean beats most bladers without strategy and by plot but anyways I don’t know Free has strategies all the time just never says it not only that Joshua literally got trigger happy after he got a round off of Free which made him delusional as always he was super predictable and Free saw it coming no way was he losing to someone who lost to Valt which may I remind he didn’t even have Ultimate Reboot but the battle with Silas is definitely hard to defend but at the of the day in God Silas lost bc his strategy was a fluke that could easily be countered Free took that advantage all he had to do was not attack it even Chris and Raul said Free was smart and a great thinker even Silas was angry bc Free woukdn’t attack him he can’t use his gimmicks if he can’t touch/hit the bey so it was a battle of Stamina and free won

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:27 AM)Limetka Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  10:46 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote:

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Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there. I think Free can be a tad bit overrated at times, and his entire "Oh well, I'll just figure some random strategy I pulled out of nowhere to defeat my opponents" shtick can get really old when done too much (I still think his use of "Geist Counter" against Kyle was such a lame move).

Make no mistake, I think he's a good character with a cool personality and some really awesome moments, but I think he was at his best in Beyblade Burst God. In the Cho-Z anime though, he was honestly kind of boring there and the only time he was interesting in that season was in his battle against Phi. In Sparking, he was fine and had some interesting backstory with his battle against Lean but nothing has come from it so far (though maybe we will get more later on) and despite his development of not underestimating his opponents, he still maintains the same smug attitude towards Sisco despite how close Sisco was to defeating him.

The reason I prefer Fumiya slightly (besides his more eccentric personality and humour) is because he was the first left-rotating spin stealing blader who wasn't broken, was heavily flawed and showed that he couldn't just pull random strategies out of nowhere and somehow win. Whenever Fumiya lost (which is quite oftenly lol), it felt like it addresses all of the weaknesses spin-stealing beys would have. With Free, he somehow manages to survive with pure luck or because the characters who had perfect strategies against Free decide to be idiots and go on the offense last minute (aka Joshua and Sisco).

EDIT: I'm not saying Free isn't strong or talented, he definitely is. But a lot of times where he could've lost, he somehow hangs out much longer than anyone else. Yeah, I get that his entire character is being able to work with his shortcomings, but the show never treats these shortcoming as such.

While I too prefer Fumiya a lot more, I feel like you guys are underestimating Free a lot if you think that all you need to defeat him is to deal with his drain spin. Let's take the battle with Joshua. People say that if only he had kept at his initial strategy he would win, but that's not really the case. If Joshua had kept at it he would be forced to use Nothing Break, which in the end, would change pretty much nothing (althought he wouldn't be able to use it to surprise Lui anymore, so that would be really interesting I guess). But he's not stupid, he realized that Joshua's not going to stay composed, so there's no need to really do anything.

He's generally really adaptive too and is capable of changing his strategy based on his opponent's strategy, like he did in that legendary battle back in God Bladers Cup. So there's no reason to not weak launch if he knows that Hyuga is stupid enough to attack him.

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:15 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:54 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: Just to make it fair Lean beats most bladers without strategy and by plot but anyways I don’t know Free has strategies all the time just never says it not only that Joshua literally got trigger happy after he got a round off of Free which made him delusional as always he was super predictable and Free saw it coming no way was he losing to someone who lost to Valt which may I remind he didn’t even have Ultimate Reboot but the battle with Silas is definitely hard to defend but at the of the day in God Silas lost bc his strategy was a fluke that could easily be countered Free took that advantage all he had to do was not attack it even Chris and Raul said Free was smart and a great thinker even Silas was angry bc Free woukdn’t attack him he can’t use his gimmicks if he can’t touch/hit the bey so it was a battle of Stamina and free won

Lean is the main antagonist so it’s only natural that he overpowers most bladers, all beyblade antagonists do. But unseen strategies used by Free are total character buffs.

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:24 PM)BeybladeX100 Wrote:

(Nov. 14, 2020  12:15 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Lean is the main antagonist so it’s only natural that he overpowers most bladers, all beyblade antagonists do. But unseen strategies used by Free are total character buffs.

You don’t need Free to tell you a strategy before the battle to understand his little plan you can easily understand if you try it’s really not that hard the ones in god are really easy to understand but after god he should have been bodied but only by Silas in Sparking also using the antagonist excuse is not a good choice for Leans defense

(Nov. 14, 2020  11:27 AM)Limetka Wrote: While I too prefer Fumiya a lot more, I feel like you guys are underestimating Free a lot if you think that all you need to defeat him is to deal with his drain spin. Let's take the battle with Joshua. People say that if only he had kept at his initial strategy he would win, but that's not really the case. If Joshua had kept at it he would be forced to use Nothing Break, which in the end, would change pretty much nothing (althought he wouldn't be able to use it to surprise Lui anymore, so that would be really interesting I guess). But he's not stupid, he realized that Joshua's not going to stay composed, so there's no need to really do anything.

He's generally really adaptive too and is capable of changing his strategy based on his opponent's strategy, like he did in that legendary battle back in God Bladers Cup. So there's no reason to not weak launch if he knows that Hyuga is stupid enough to attack him.