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RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 10, 2019
(Feb. 10, 2019 5:39 PM)Spideyblade Wrote: Will a tier list be made for this format?Eventually. As more Classic tournaments happen (only 3 have so far), we can start to get a general idea of what combos are good.
Doomscizor Knuckle Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Spread Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Gravity Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 8 Burst, 2 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Heavy Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Spideyblade - Feb. 10, 2019
(Feb. 10, 2019 6:05 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:Thank you! Also, how is Roktavor in this format, because I feel he would be a powerful competitor?(Feb. 10, 2019 5:39 PM)Spideyblade Wrote: Will a tier list be made for this format?Eventually. As more Classic tournaments happen (only 3 have so far), we can start to get a general idea of what combos are good.
Doomscizor Knuckle Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
- D.K.R: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Spread Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
- D.S.R: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Gravity Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
- D.G.R: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 8 Burst, 2 KO (100% Win Rate)
Doomscizor Heavy Revolve (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Suzaku-X
- D.H.R: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 9 Burst, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 10, 2019
(Feb. 10, 2019 7:46 PM)Spideyblade Wrote: Thank you! Also, how is Roktavor in this format, because I feel he would be a powerful competitor?I'd say Roktavor is one of the better Single Layers out there, so I can see it being used on some combos in Classic tournaments.
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 15, 2019
Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 1 Burst (10% Win Rate)
Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 1 Burst (10% Win Rate)
Gaianon G2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 2 KO (20% Win Rate)
Gaianon G2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- S2.G.Z: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)
Gaianon G2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Doomscizor D3 Gravity Zephyr (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- D3.G.Z: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)
Gaianon G2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (First) vs. Doomscizor D3 Gravity Zephyr (Second): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- D3.G.Z: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 17, 2019
Dragoon Fighter Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 1 OS
* Too many ties to continue.
Dragoon Fighter Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 9 OS (90% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Yegdrion Y2 Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd) vs. Yegdrion Y2 Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Shindog
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y2.H.Yr-S: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - CheetoBlader - Feb. 17, 2019
(Feb. 17, 2019 3:20 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: Dragoon Fighter Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): WombatThanks for the tests! Now I know not to buy Dragoon right away!
- DGF.P.Xt-S: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
- DGF.P.Ds: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
- DGF.P.Yr-S: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
- DGF.P.Xt-S: 0 WinsSpoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 1 OS
* Too many ties to continue.
Dragoon Fighter Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
- DGF.P.Ds: 1 OS (10% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 9 OS (90% Win Rate)
Dragoon Fighter Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
- DGF.P.Yr-S: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Yegdrion Y2 Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd) vs. Yegdrion Y2 Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Shindog
- Y2.P.Yr-S: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y2.H.Yr-S: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 17, 2019
(Feb. 17, 2019 3:39 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: Thanks for the tests! Now I know not to buy Dragoon right away!No problem.
Dragoon Storm Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 9 OS, 1 Burst (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Storm Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Storm Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Kerbeus Yell Revolve (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- K.Y.R: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Storm Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 6 Burst, 4 OS (100% Win Rate)
Dragoon Storm Polish Destroy (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 6 OS, 2 Burst (80% Win Rate)
Dragoon Storm Polish Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd Weak) vs. Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even Weak): Wombat
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y.H.Yr-S: 10 OS (100% Win Rate)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - bladekid - Feb. 17, 2019
Test 1:
K.Y.Et-S(BR) VS DGF.P.Xt-S(BR) (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 100% (OS: 20, KO: 0, BST: 0)
DGF Win Rate: 0% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 1
Test 2:
K.Y.Et-S(BR) VS DGF.P.Xt-S(SS) (weak launches, K launched first, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 85% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 1)
DGF Win Rate: 15% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 3)
Ties: 0
Test 3:
K.Y.Et-S(BR) VS DGF.P.Ds (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 100% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 2)
DGF Win Rate: 0% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Test 4:
R.H.S VS F4.G.O (alternating launches, ties redone)
R Win Rate: 5% (OS: 1, KO: 0, BST: 0)
F4 Win Rate: 95% (OS: 17, KO: 0, BST: 2)
Ties: 0
Test 5:
A2.G.O VS F4.G.Yr-S(BR) (alternating launches, ties redone)
A2 Win Rate: 10% (OS: 1, KO: 0, BST: 1)
F4 Win Rate: 90% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 12)
Ties: 0
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - bladekid - Feb. 21, 2019
Some Salamander S4 tests:
Test 1:
K.Y.R VS S4.P.Xt-S(BR) (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 70% (OS: 7, KO: 0, BST: 0)
S4 Win Rate: 30% (OS: 1, KO: 0, BST: 2)
Ties: 3
Test 2:
K.Y.Et-S(BR) VS S4.P.Xt-S(BR) (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 100% (OS: 10, KO: 0, BST: 0)
S4 Win Rate: 0% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 2
Test 3:
K.Y.R VS S4.P.Ds (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 40% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
S4 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 5, KO: 0, BST: 1)
Ties: 5
Test 4:
K.Y.Et-S(BR) VS S4.P.Ds (alternating launches, ties redone)
K Win Rate: 100% (OS: 10, KO: 0, BST: 0)
S4 Win Rate: 0% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 4
These are some tests for Zeutron Z4:
Test 1:
Z4.G.O VS R.H.S (alternating launches, ties redone)
Z4 Win Rate: 90% (OS: 12, KO: 1, BST: 5)
R Win Rate: 10% (OS: 0, KO: 1, BST: 1)
Ties: 2 (1 BST, 1 OS)
Test 2:
Y.G.O VS Z4.G.O (alternating launches, ties redone)
Z4 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 6)
Y Win Rate: 40% (OS: 8, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 3
Test 3:
S2.G.Z VS Z4.G.Cy (Z4 launched first, ties redone)
Z4 Win Rate: 90% (OS: 9, KO: 1, BST: 8)
S2 Win Rate: 10% (OS: 0, KO: 2, BST: 0)
Ties: 1 (1 BST)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - MonoDragon - Feb. 24, 2019
Did some tests with Takara Tomy's Driger S (managed to get my hands on the Darkness Version)
(Takara Tomy) Driger S Heavy Trans (Stamina Mode) vs. (Hasbro) Valkyrie Gravity Xtreme
DR.H.T: 7 Bursts, 5 SF
V.G.X: 4 Bursts, 1 SF, 3 KO
Driger S Win Rate: 60%
(Takara Tomy) Driger S Heavy Trans (Stamina Mode) vs. (Hasbro) Victory Valkyrie Gravity Xtreme
DR.H.T: 2 Bursts, 11 SF
V2.G.X: 3 Bursts, 1 SF, 3 KO
Driger S Win Rate: 65%
(Takara Tomy) Driger S Heavy Trans (Stamina Mode) vs. (Takara Tomy) Xcalibur Gravity Xtreme
DR.H.T: 5 Bursts, 5 SF
X.G.X: 4 Bursts, 2 SF, 4 KO
Driger S Win Rate: 50%
(Takara Tomy) Driger S Heavy Trans (Stamina Mode) vs. (Takara Tomy) God Valkyrie Gravity Xtreme
DR.H.T: 15 SF
gV.G.X: 4 Bursts, 1 KO
Driger S Win Rate: 75%
(Takara Tomy) Driger S Heavy Trans (Attack Mode) vs. (Takara Tomy) Acid Anubis Heavy Revolve
DR.H.T: 5 Bursts, 5 SF
A2.G.R: 3 Bursts, 7 SF
Driger S Win Rate: 50%
I must say, Driger S shows a lot of potential in Classic. However, this does not factor in Xtreme' or Hunter' (I have Xtreme' but I do not want to wear it down outside of a tournament).
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Izhkoort - Feb. 26, 2019
(Feb. 17, 2019 4:53 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:(Feb. 17, 2019 3:39 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: Thanks for the tests! Now I know not to buy Dragoon right away!No problem.
Too late here, made Dragoon Fighter 0Bump Xtreme' (I didn't know about this format or the new season at the time) it looks sick though (purple layer and disk, black frame and base)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Feb. 26, 2019
(Feb. 26, 2019 2:32 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: Too late here, made Dragoon Fighter 0Bump Xtreme' (I didn't know about this format or the new season at the time) it looks sick though (purple layer and disk, black frame and base)You're referring to Dragoon Fantom, not Fighter. Fighter is the Hasbro version.
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Izhkoort - Feb. 28, 2019
(Feb. 26, 2019 9:34 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:(Feb. 26, 2019 2:32 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: Too late here, made Dragoon Fighter 0Bump Xtreme' (I didn't know about this format or the new season at the time) it looks sick though (purple layer and disk, black frame and base)You're referring to Dragoon Fantom, not Fighter. Fighter is the Hasbro version.
Yep, but there are so many things that change until they arrive to my country that sometimes I forget which one is which (not only for beyblade)
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - LazerBeamz - Mar. 05, 2019
Hey All,
Here are some TT vs Hasbro tests I did. Was mainly trying to find a good disk for Yegdrion. Will try Heavy on Yegdrion Y2 when I have more time:
Acid Anubis Gravity Orbit (Odd) vs. Yegdrion Y2 Gravity Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even)
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y2.G.Yr-S: 3 OS, 2 Burst (50% Win Rate)
Acid Anubis Gravity Orbit (Odd) vs. Yegdrion Y2 Knuckle Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even)
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y2.K.Yr-S: 2 OS, 1 Burst (30% Win Rate)
Acid Anubis Gravity Orbit (Odd) vs. Yegdrion Y2 Yell Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even)
Spoiler (Click to View)
- Y2.Y.Yr-S: 3 Burst, 1 OS (40% Win Rate)
Seems like Gravity is the way to go for the Yegdrion Y2 Yard-S combo.
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - ks123 - Mar. 05, 2019
Can anyone make more test with Orbit driver?
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 06, 2019
Since there have been people who have wanted to see some Turbo Layers get unbanned, I wanted to do more testing with one of the four Turbo Layers I currently own: Forneus F4. A past test of mine showed that Spryzen S2 on a Mobile Atk Combo can Burst Forneus F4, but in the event of F4 ever getting unbanned, I also wanted to see what could OS Forneus F4 as far as legal Hasbro Single, Dual, and SwitchStrike Layers go.
Anything that got a 50% Win Rate or higher was placed in the first category, "Layers That Have A Good Chance Of Beating Forneus F4".
Anything that got lower than a 50% Win Rate was placed in the second category, "Layers That Forneus F4 Has A Good Chance Of Beating".
Layers That Have A Good Chance Of Beating Forneus F4
Single Layers - Dranzer Flame, Driger Slash, Kerbeus, Unicrest, Yegdrion
Spoiler (Click to View)
Dual Layers - Doomscizor D2, Wyvron W2, Yegdrion Y2
Spoiler (Click to View)
SwitchStrike Layers - Cognite C3 (Both Modes)
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Layers Forneus F4 Has A Good Chance Of Beating
Single Layers - Caynox, Doomscizor, Draciel Shield, Dragoon Fighter, Dragoon Storm, Dranzer Spiral, Evipero, Horusood, Minoboros, Nepstrius, Odax, Roktavor, Spryzen, Treptune, Valtryek, Wyvron, Xcalius
Spoiler (Click to View)
Dual Layers - Anubion A2, Betromoth B2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Diomedes D2, Evipero E2, Fengriff F2, Gaianon G2, Horusood H2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Hyrus H2, Ifritor I2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Istros I2, Kerbeus K2, Minoboros M2, Nepstrius N2, Odax O2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Orpheus O2, Phantazus P2, Quetziko Q2, Roktavor R2, Spryzen S2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Surtr S2, (Hasbro Exclusive) Tyros T2, Unicrest U2, Valtryek V2, Xcalius X2, Zeutron Z2
Spoiler (Click to View)
SwitchStrike Layers - Doomscizor D3, Genesis Valtryek V3, Satomb S3, Strike Valtryek V3
Spoiler (Click to View)
Final Thoughts
While Forneus F4 pales in comparison to Emperor Forneus due to the lack of metal and decreased Burst Resistance, its destabilizing shape still allows it to do pretty well in terms of Sta/Def when compared to Hasbro Layers that are legal for Burst Classic, which is why I think it should stay banned. While I'm certain Mobile Attack Combos from Hasbro and Takara Tomy shouldn't have too much of a problem beating Forneus F4, I feel like its current common availability in stores and ability to outclass many Layers for Sta/Def in the Classic metagame makes it problematic.
Also, for anyone out there advocating for parts to be banned or unbanned, you have a better shot of getting what you want by backing up your argument with actual testing to prove your point. If not, the situation is just going to stagnate with the only thing coming out of it being frequent debates with other people on the forums. Yes, most Turbo Layers are downgrades from their TT counterparts, but many of them have not been tested yet, meaning there's a lot of uncharted territory for these parts. Testing them will give the higher ups the important info they need to know and will help them in the decision making for potential bans and unbans.
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - tubitr - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 06, 2019 4:48 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: Final Thoughts
While Forneus F4 pales in comparison to Emperor Forneus due to the lack of metal and decreased Burst Resistance, its destabilizing shape still allows it to do pretty well in terms of Sta/Def when compared to Hasbro Layers that are legal for Burst Classic, which is why I think it should stay banned. While I'm certain Mobile Attack Combos from Hasbro and Takara Tomy shouldn't have too much of a problem beating Forneus F4, I feel like its current common availability in stores and ability to outclass many Layers for Sta/Def in the Classic metagame makes it problematic.
Also, for anyone out there advocating for parts to be banned or unbanned, you have a better shot of getting what you want by backing up your argument with actual testing to prove your point. If not, the situation is just going to stagnate with the only thing coming out of it being frequent debates with other people on the forums. Yes, most Turbo Layers are downgrades from their TT counterparts, but many of them have not been tested yet, meaning there's a lot of uncharted territory for these parts. Testing them will give the higher ups the important info they need to know and will help them in the decision making for potential bans and unbans.
So F4 loses to most of best (Hasbro only) stamina layers (Dranzer f, D2, Y, K and C3), goes even with 2/3 of the best defense layers while beating one (U/Y2 and G2) and also loses to mobile attack?
Seems like a strong but not ban worthy part to me.
U, Y2 and G may have some trouble against C, U2 and A2, other than that they should also be outspinning everything F4 outspins. I'd also bet on these 3 layers when they're up against mobile attack.
F4 just seems to have slightly better stamina and slightly worse defense compared to the current best (Hasbro only) defense layers.
I appreciate all the effort you put in to these tests and post btw
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 9:57 AM)tubitr Wrote: So F4 loses to most of best (Hasbro only) stamina layers (Dranzer f, D2, Y, K and C3), goes even with 2/3 of the best defense layers while beating one (U/Y2 and G2) and also loses to mobile attack?Thanks.
Seems like a strong but not ban worthy part to me.
U, Y2 and G may have some trouble against C, U2 and A2, other than that they should also be outspinning everything F4 outspins. I'd also bet on these 3 layers when they're up against mobile attack.
F4 just seems to have slightly better stamina and slightly worse defense compared to the current best (Hasbro only) defense layers.
I appreciate all the effort you put in to these tests and post btw
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Rebel Blader - Mar. 07, 2019
Basically f4 overshadows both U and G2 imo. If it is allowed then it'll be no doubt the top defense layer which still would have decent stamina
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Instaburst - Mar. 07, 2019
Recently at a burst classic tournament I was at I had my dad use wolborg armed orbit and it did really good has anyone else had success with wolborg?
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 10:01 PM)instaburst13 Wrote: Recently at a burst classic tournament I was at I had my dad use wolborg armed orbit and it did really good has anyone else had success with wolborg?You should probably ask that here bro: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Takara-Tomy-TT-Burst-Classic-Testing-and-Discussion
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Instaburst - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 10:02 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:Whoops sorry I didn’t know this was hasbro only I don’t really use the WBO too much once again sorry(Mar. 07, 2019 10:01 PM)instaburst13 Wrote: Recently at a burst classic tournament I was at I had my dad use wolborg armed orbit and it did really good has anyone else had success with wolborg?You should probably ask that here bro: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Takara-Tomy-TT-Burst-Classic-Testing-and-Discussion
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 10:56 PM)instaburst13 Wrote: Whoops sorry I didn’t know this was hasbro only I don’t really use the WBO too much once again sorryHey, it's no big deal dude haha. At least you know now that there's a TT Burst Classic Testing/Discussion thread, so that's good.
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - lilphilyb - Mar. 07, 2019
Can you test D2.G.P?
RE: Burst Classic Testing and Discussion - Armor - Mar. 07, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 11:01 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: Can you test D2.G.P?
If you mean Dark Deathscyther, I think it’s banned.