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RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - th!nk - Feb. 24, 2022 Curse Valkyrie Wheel(H) Xtend+ 1S vs Lord Dragon Wheel(H) Xtend+ (Right) Results (Click to View) Lord Win Rate: 40% (3OS, 1KO) Shindog noted that Curse has a grinding ability similar to Basalt in MFB. This was quite evident here, if it made good contact throughout the match it wore Lord down noticeably. I would use something more defensively capable than Xt+ if running Curse personally, but it is definitely not that bad at stamina given the right match up. What's worse is that this is without any metal chips or cores... Valkyrie probably isn't optimal but I was experimenting with different chips and did these in the process. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - The Blacknight - Feb. 24, 2022 (Feb. 23, 2022 10:50 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:i did mean venture, ig my sources were weird.(Feb. 23, 2022 9:19 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: a few questions:-Wrong. 00 wall is busted on curse. For defense. Outspinning any bey on extreme really doesn’t take much. And even then, drift gets knocked out of control. (Feb. 24, 2022 12:36 AM)th!nk Wrote:(Feb. 23, 2022 9:19 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: a few questions: ohh looking back it was dead hades+blitz atomic didn't say anything about standard, i just asked for rage cuz i was wondering if curse is good enough to beat banned layers. also i've found that judgement on ds' is decent, better than it on things like quick' but my stadium isn't standard and my judgement is pro series so that might be the problem lol. I guess i'm sorta chalking it up to drivers like drift and universe cuz both 00wall and curse were never really meta(as far as i know), with 00wall being only good on bearing which is the only reason people recognize it as a good core-frame combo, and curse was just outclassed from the get-go. and don't the wheels do jack too? I don't know but i just find it realllllly hard to believe that curse is decent now when it wasn't good on release.i even looked through the winning combos thread and i can't find curse. if it with a driver like drift is this good, why was there no curse with 00wall and universe? i'm just really confused as the why it's good now, when it was average in the meta this format is supposed to replicate. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - th!nk - Feb. 25, 2022 Hard disagree on judgment Ds' being better than qc'but judgment even works in octa so 🤷 We also aren't really at the point where we should be testing outside the format. As for why it didn't see use... It came out in a random booster as a prize bey and the next, more available release was only 4 months later but came with Tempest, which totally outclassed it. Curse is round and defensive enough that the wheels don't need to do anything but I would imagine they do dissipate some degree of shock, even if it's minor. 00Wall was my choice based on preliminary testing for the best Defense I could get without sacrificing too much stamina for opposite spin battles. We're here to show what curse can do when properly built, not just what it can do on generic setups (though 00wall did work on Bearing in much the same way as here, the low centre of gravity of Wall makes dr more stable). This was the easiest for me to show the problem with. For what it's worth, I wouldn't put Un on the same level as Dr nor do I think they necessarily benefit/avoid bad scrapes on the same disks iirc. But the driver isn't really the problem part here, other things can use Dr without issues. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - TheRogueBlader - Feb. 25, 2022 (Feb. 25, 2022 12:04 AM)th!nk Wrote: Hard disagree on judgment Ds' being better than qc'but judgment even works in octa so 🤷 We also aren't really at the point where we should be testing outside the format.You think judgement ds’ is better than judgement qc’? Interesting. I mean maybe it works better for you but for me udgjement destroy can’t really KO opposite spin to well and in same spin since ds’ isn’t as fast or aggressive as qc’ defensive beys can OS it. With qc’ defense isn’t as powerful since battles don’t get to the point of outspins, and qc’ is more effective at KOing opposite spin as well. And yeah curse didn’t really see use in sparking since A- It was in a random booster B- It was the prize of said random booster and C- Due to the limited access nobody really got to see how good it actually was Now in BGT though, especially since curse is more available now, it’s different. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - th!nk - Feb. 25, 2022 (Feb. 25, 2022 12:31 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote:(Feb. 25, 2022 12:04 AM)th!nk Wrote: Hard disagree on judgment Ds' being better than qc'but judgment even works in octa so 🤷 We also aren't really at the point where we should be testing outside the format.You think judgement ds’ is better than judgement qc’? Interesting. I mean maybe it works better for you but for me udgjement destroy can’t really KO opposite spin to well and in same spin since ds’ isn’t as fast or aggressive as qc’ defensive beys can OS it. With qc’ defense isn’t as powerful since battles don’t get to the point of outspins, and qc’ is more effective at KOing opposite spin as well. I said the opposite to that - that Ds' is worse. It was in response to the previous post. I should also say that tournament use is only part of the picture. Bakushin saw no use until MFL, for example. Things get missed thru obscurity or ignorance regularly in Beyblade. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - TheRogueBlader - Feb. 25, 2022 (Feb. 25, 2022 12:35 AM)th!nk Wrote:Ah, sorry about that.(Feb. 25, 2022 12:31 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: You think judgement ds’ is better than judgement qc’? Interesting. I mean maybe it works better for you but for me udgjement destroy can’t really KO opposite spin to well and in same spin since ds’ isn’t as fast or aggressive as qc’ defensive beys can OS it. With qc’ defense isn’t as powerful since battles don’t get to the point of outspins, and qc’ is more effective at KOing opposite spin as well. And yeah a lot of stuff is missed mainly through obscurity though. I feel like every part is tested at a certain point but for things that aren’t as consistent it’s harder to find usage for them. Also I’m heading home right now so leave the Glide testing thread to me 😈 (evil music commences) Also I don’t have the exact same driver (best I’ve got is survive/metal survive) and for LAD the tests will be either with Vangaurd bearing’(worn) and 0 cross Xtend+(worn) and I’ll switch them or just 00 expand destroy on both beys to make it easier. I might do both. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - p0l1w4g06 - Feb. 25, 2022 From what I saw, there’s only 1 definite way to get Curse (it’s tacked on with Tempest), so most people who have tempest would have it, otherwise they’d have to rely on RNG RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - th!nk - Feb. 27, 2022 Was playing around with a Curse Weight Defense combo. Used to use perfect genesis on this but curse supplants it entirely (yay). Curse Solomon[MCC] Almight+S+V 1S vs Zwei Diabolos1 Convert Qc' Curse weak launched with a slight bank. Almight in High Mode, S Gear in free spin. Results (Click to View) Zwei Win Rate: 20% (1KO, 1OS) The OS was Zwei knocking it down while low on stamina, but this is rare. It's incredibly hard to KO tbh. Here's a hastily-made vid of the combo vs left spin Ig' and Drift, where it does quite competently despite poor balance: https://youtu.be/9e2C3Ttw0wY RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - DedZeY - Apr. 02, 2022 What is better curse or perfect phoenix for defense against attackers like judgment and zwei? I have curse but not perfect phoenix but will be getting revive phoenix soon hopefully RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2022 (Apr. 02, 2022 6:54 AM)DedZeY Wrote: What is better curse or perfect phoenix for defense against attackers like judgment and zwei? Curse is much much better than pP vs Zwei. I feel like pP would be a little better vs Judgment. RE: Curse SK Ring: BGT Discussion/Testing Thread - DedZeY - Apr. 02, 2022 (Apr. 02, 2022 7:10 AM)th!nk Wrote:Intresting(Apr. 02, 2022 6:54 AM)DedZeY Wrote: What is better curse or perfect phoenix for defense against attackers like judgment and zwei? ill be sure to test it out when i get pp. |