(Aug. 03, 2021  8:05 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote:

(Aug. 03, 2021  7:57 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: I can actually back up G2's theory because I used to have a God Valkyrie and whenever it started wobbling and almost stopped spinning it would last-minute hit the bey with its bound blade and burst it.

We sure it's not just pure luck? I've battled with gV a lot and I've never had that happen.

(Aug. 03, 2021  8:14 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote:

(Aug. 03, 2021  8:05 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: We sure it's not just pure luck? I've battled with gV a lot and I've never had that happen.

I think it happened like 5 times and I was using a Hasbro Victory Valtryek so that might be it.

(Aug. 03, 2021  7:30 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote:

(Aug. 03, 2021  2:31 PM)g2_ Wrote: I disagree, the bound attack seems to increase the recoil.

Bound Attack simply absorbs impacts with the springs. It's why things like God Valkyrie and Imperials Bound Form wasnt useful at all.

(Aug. 04, 2021  12:54 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Aug. 03, 2021  8:14 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: I think it happened like 5 times and I was using a Hasbro Victory Valtryek so that might be it.

We are talking about Genesis Valkyrie?

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I'm putting Valkyrie in Tier One solely for it's potential in use of stamina combinations - not attack

(Aug. 04, 2021  7:44 AM)g2_ Wrote: Valkyrie is not good for stamina types, it's ideal for attack.

(Aug. 04, 2021  8:02 AM)tubitr Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2021  7:44 AM)g2_ Wrote: Valkyrie is not good for stamina types, it's ideal for attack.

It's showed up twice (if I haven't missed any) on the winning combos list so far, both times in stamina combos:

https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning-Combinations-at-WBO-Organized-Play-Events?pid=1784333&highlight=Valkyrie#pid1784333
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning-Combinations-at-WBO-Organized-Play-Events?pid=1784231&highlight=Valkyrie#pid1784231

There's also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpwBkfT8Yns

(Aug. 04, 2021  5:43 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2021  8:02 AM)tubitr Wrote: It's showed up twice (if I haven't missed any) on the winning combos list so far, both times in stamina combos:

https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning-Combinations-at-WBO-Organized-Play-Events?pid=1784333&highlight=Valkyrie#pid1784333
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning-Combinations-at-WBO-Organized-Play-Events?pid=1784231&highlight=Valkyrie#pid1784231

There's also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpwBkfT8Yns

Probably just a coincidence. I’ll make the testing tomorrow.

(Aug. 06, 2021  12:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Aug. 04, 2021  5:43 PM)g2_ Wrote: Probably just a coincidence. I’ll make the testing tomorrow.

I'm not doubting that it can attack on the right layer, I'm doubting the relative attack it gives. All we see is Valkyrie successfully reducing recoil and increasing stamina. Sure it can attack, but Belial is better for Attack layers like Savior.
Recently there was a combo Savior Belial Nexus Xtreme'. Why wasn't Valkyrie used if it increases attack compared to Belial?

(Aug. 06, 2021  5:33 AM)g2_ Wrote:

(Aug. 06, 2021  12:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: I'm not doubting that it can attack on the right layer, I'm doubting the relative attack it gives. All we see is Valkyrie successfully reducing recoil and increasing stamina. Sure it can attack, but Belial is better for Attack layers like Savior.
Recently there was a combo Savior Belial Nexus Xtreme'. Why wasn't Valkyrie used if it increases attack compared to Belial?

I don't know, I'll do the testing.

(Aug. 08, 2021  10:43 PM)Orbit Wrote: Can some one test out venture + V? I wanna see if it’s really better than Destroy’. I also want to see what is the best disk to go with it, between Giga, Over, Nexus+V, and tapered.

(Aug. 08, 2021  11:56 PM)tubitr Wrote:

(Aug. 08, 2021  10:43 PM)Orbit Wrote: Can some one test out venture + V? I wanna see if it’s really better than Destroy’. I also want to see what is the best disk to go with it, between Giga, Over,  Nexus+V, and tapered.

It doesn't ridge the ridge well and can self ko when hard launched, not as safe as Destroy'.
It's got weird opposite spin stamina, can draw vs the low mode DB stuff on Drift but solidly loses to stuff like Master Wh Xt+ and Vanish Tp Br.

(Jul. 24, 2021  1:42 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Tier One (Most Viable Parts)
DB Cores: Perseus, Fafnir, Belial, Bahamut, Spriggan, Valkyrie
Armours: 2, 3, 6, 10
DB Blades: Dynamite (F), Vanish, Roar, Savior, Cyclone
DB Discs: Giga, Tapered
DB Drivers: Never, Metal Xtreme
Tier Two(Less Viable Parts, but still usable)
DB Cores: Ragnaruk
Armours: 7
DB Blades: Dynamite (F) (H), Vanish (H), Roar (H), Savior (Worn)

(Aug. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)adamslow Wrote:

(Jul. 24, 2021  1:42 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Tier One (Most Viable Parts)
DB Cores: Perseus, Fafnir, Belial, Bahamut, Spriggan, Valkyrie
Armours: 2, 3, 6, 10
DB Blades: Dynamite (F), Vanish, Roar, Savior, Cyclone
DB Discs: Giga, Tapered
DB Drivers: Never, Metal Xtreme
Tier Two(Less Viable Parts, but still usable)
DB Cores: Ragnaruk
Armours: 7
DB Blades: Dynamite (F) (H), Vanish (H), Roar (H), Savior (Worn)

Can I ask why you rank unworn Savior over worn Savior? I don't say this because I think you're wrong, I'm not knowledgeable enough to say one way or the other, I'm mostly just curious is all. To me, in my limited experience, it's felt like unworn Savior has much stronger attacks, which seems like what you'd want out of the Blade. Thank you for your time!

(Aug. 14, 2021  6:19 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Aug. 13, 2021  4:47 PM)adamslow Wrote: Can I ask why you rank unworn Savior over worn Savior? I don't say this because I think you're wrong, I'm not knowledgeable enough to say one way or the other, I'm mostly just curious is all. To me, in my limited experience, it's felt like unworn Savior has much stronger attacks, which seems like what you'd want out of the Blade. Thank you for your time!

Tbh I have no idea, I think the idea was that more rubber means better recoil, but I think I'm gonna change that. Unworn Savior probably does better, but Haven't seen any reliable testing on that.
Still. I have no idea on this, so I'm just gonna put both of the saviors in tier one

(Aug. 14, 2021  4:52 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Edit: just saw that it’s actually in pending. I will do testing nonetheless so I can get awakened Savior into tier one.

(Aug. 14, 2021  1:21 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Aug. 14, 2021  6:19 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Tbh I have no idea, I think the idea was that more rubber means better recoil, but I think I'm gonna change that. Unworn Savior probably does better, but Haven't seen any reliable testing on that.
Still. I have no idea on this, so I'm just gonna put both of the saviors in tier one

Awakened savior is definitely better, the gaps opened up because of those rubber parts not being there makes a big difference in performance. I’ve been able to KO roar on drift with savior.

(Aug. 14, 2021  4:52 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Just realized Savior is in tier three. Could you please put Savior in tier one? It’s top tier for right spin attack and I will do some testing later to prove it if needed. It’s bursting issue can be mitigated with Valkyrie if needed.

Edit: just saw that it’s actually in pending. I will do testing nonetheless so I can get awakened Savior into tier one.

(Aug. 15, 2021  2:23 AM)LJ-Blader Wrote: Okay, I will sometime next week.

(Aug. 15, 2021  11:14 AM)@ya.dama Wrote: Hi, I have a suggestion, if it's ok. Maybe everytime you edit the first post, you could put the date on it? that way it'll be easier to track how long ago the post was updated.

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btw tier one and tier two both have Savior (Unworn) on it, think its a typo.

(Sep. 11, 2021  1:48 PM)DoomShizzle Wrote: Where does the 0 armor fall under in the current meta? Not seeing it in the list.