(Jun. 21, 2018  8:48 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Jun. 21, 2018  6:05 PM)ThePheonix Wrote: Well, now you know that it's not because of testing... Same thing...

That could have been predicted without any testing i mean nothing is so useless anything on nothing would not  be competitive

(Jun. 21, 2018  10:23 PM)TL14 Wrote:

(Jun. 21, 2018  8:48 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: That could have been predicted without any testing i mean nothing is so useless anything on nothing would not  be competitive

I think Nothing performs really well in heavy defense combos like Beat Kukulcan 0-Bump Nothing. @[DraconicArt] used it a lot recently and it is really good in our opinion.

(Jun. 22, 2018  5:57 AM)ThePheonix Wrote:

(Jun. 21, 2018  8:48 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: That could have been predicted without any testing i mean nothing is so useless anything on nothing would not  be competitive

And how do you know that Nothing is bad? TESTING

People thought that Sr with Bearing would burst because of the weak spring... How did they get to know?

Let me let you in on a secret (Click to View)

TESTING!

(Jun. 22, 2018  11:45 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Jun. 21, 2018  10:23 PM)TL14 Wrote: I think Nothing performs really well in heavy defense combos like Beat Kukulcan 0-Bump Nothing. @[DraconicArt] used it a lot recently and it is really good in our opinion.

Isnt beat kakkulcan used for attack? Also if u try anyanything like orbit or atomic on that combo it would perform better

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(Jun. 22, 2018  5:57 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: And how do you know that Nothing is bad? TESTING

People thought that Sr with Bearing would burst because of the weak spring... How did they get to know?

Let me let you in on a secret (Click to View)

TESTING!

Bearing had potential but had a weakness(burst resistance) sR just compensated for that weakness. Bearing has outstading presicision which was the main attraction to use it.  Nothing has no potential it has bad stability, bad ko defense, bad presicision and these things cant be compensated by putting it on a good layer. And nothing has been proved bad by testing theres no use to further test it.

(Jun. 22, 2018  12:50 PM)ThePheonix Wrote:

(Jun. 22, 2018  11:45 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Isnt beat kakkulcan used for attack? Also if u try anyanything like orbit or atomic on that combo it would perform better

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Bearing had potential but had a weakness(burst resistance) sR just compensated for that weakness. Bearing has outstading presicision which was the main attraction to use it.  Nothing has no potential it has bad stability, bad ko defense, bad presicision and these things cant be compensated by putting it on a good layer. And nothing has been proved bad by testing theres no use to further test it.

Baybe he or she just wants to see some numbers... And this might repetitive but yeah, people have info because of testing. And some combos aren't defined by the parts it comes with... gK for an example has 3 great parts but together, they definetly isn't a great combo...

(Jun. 22, 2018  1:07 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: gK heavy revolve was a quite popular stamina combo it just needed a tight god chip. Anyways this is getting off topic one the main thing is request testing combos Responsibly.some parts can never ever be competitive like edge, nothing etc we need to realise what weaknesses make a certain part a bad part and can those weaknesses be compensated by different parts.  Only In the latter case testing should be done

(Jul. 05, 2018  1:14 AM)Spideyblade Wrote: Competitively which is better:
Orpheus O2 double pack
Or
Tyros T2 double pack

(Jul. 05, 2018  9:34 AM)DreamBlade Wrote: Should i use Ifritor for competitions? Ifritor always loses to Zeutron cause of weight. And it sometimes bursts easily.  I want to keep the magnum or exchange it with 1 because it has a dual sabers type shape. But should I keep liner or should I exchange it with something different?

(Jun. 14, 2018  1:43 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(May. 22, 2018  2:56 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: So this is pretty much the current  Hasbro Competitive combo list
==Attack==
==Mobile==
Legend Spryzen S3 2/4/5/7/0  Star/Flow/Meteor/Vortex/Cross/Glaive Xtreme/Variable/Trans(Attack mode only) /Iron/Zephyr/Hunter
Xcalius X3 0/2/4/5/7 Star/Flow/Cross/Meteor/Glaive/Vortex Iron/Xtreme/Variable/Zephyr/Trans/Hunter
Luinor L3 Glaive/Star/Cross/Meteor Xtreme/Variable(Worn)/Hunter
==Things to look into==
1)Roktavor
Once we know how Roktavor does against  current Attack layers and good it is against other stuff compared to current Attack layers then it could be added here too. 
2)Trident
Hasbro release of Trident has good slopes which combined with its aggressive shape can make it good for attack it did well in previous testing but it needs testing against new stuff. 
4)Xclaius 
Same reason aas Roktavor
==Stationary==
Xcalius X3 2/4/5/7/0 Star/Cross/Glaive/Meteor/Vortex Weight/Needle/Atomic/Orbit
Luinor L3 Glaive/Cross/Meteor Weight/Needle/Atomic/Orbit
==Things to look into==
Due to lack of options for stationary Attack layers like X, R,T  V etc might find some use but only a tournament can determine how they will perform against the new stuff. Also stationar X3 beats right spin stuff while L3 beats left slin stuff only. 
==Defense==
Fafnir F3 2/4/5/7 Cross/Glaive Atomic
==Stamina==
Kerbeus 2/4/5/7/0 Cross/Glaive Atomic/Orbit/Bearing 
Jormuntor J2 2/4/5/7/0 Cross/Glaive Atomic/Orbit/Bearing 
Unicrest 2/4/5/7/0 Cross/Glaive Atomic/Orbit /Bearing
Cognite C3 2/4/5/7/0 Cross/Glaive Atomic/Orbit/Bearing
Caynox C3 7 Bearing
==Things to look into==
From current testing it seems that Caynox C3 7 Br is the top stamina type right now and easily outspins all other combos only A2,Y and J2 seem to give it some competition but i dont know if i should remove U and K completely from the list as they seem to have a bit more stamina than J2. Anyways it would be better if someone hosts a Hasbro-only tournament so the whole situation of which stamina layers are relevant now can be solved as for now the current scenario is so far that all the combos listed are quite neck to neck imo hopefully some more testing can sort things out. also i would like to mention that Caynox C3 is useless on Orbit and Atomic as it bursts too much on them. It is good on bearing tho(with a tight fitting disk) as Bearing has a tighter spring than Atomic and Orbit. So the things which we will be looking into from now on
1)Comparative Stamina Testing.
2)A2,Y,D2 and Caynox C1 for Stamina.
==Balance==
Fafnir F3 Polish Atomic
Fafnir F3 Polish 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross  Hold/Destroy/Bearing
L3 Glaive/Star/Meteor/Cross Destroy/Hold
X3 0/7/5/4/2/1 Glaive/Cross/Star Destroy
J2 0/7/4/5/2 Glaive/Cross Destroy 
C3 0/7/4/5/2 Glaive/Cross Destroy
==Things to look into==
1) Roktavor R3 on Iron/Zephyr
It was a good combo before and even now it can get a good percentage against stamina and because its mobile it can deal with Attack better maybe. It needs testing before being added. 
3)Roktavor on Destroy.
4)4)Bearing for Stationary Attack.
5) L2 on Ds. 

(Jul. 06, 2018  10:18 PM)Defensa Wrote: I asked KJ to test R and it performed significantly worse than LS3 and X3. As far as U goes, I would remove it since what it was good at was mostly defense due to its tight slopes rather than its stamina. Kerbeus has only found success against F3 while J2 seems like the top choice aside from Switchstrike.
Pending the tests I asked KJ for, I'd remove any single layers from the top tier attack and defense sections due to clear weight disadvantage.
Lastly I would like to ask about the absence of Spryzen Requiem given that, as far as I know, only the TT version is banned. Obviously G3 is top tier but banned, important note to remember for those unfamiliar with the best parts available in the Hasbro meta.

(Jul. 07, 2018  11:55 PM)Spideyblade Wrote: I don’t have any true basis since I barely have any competitive parts, but is Orpheus O2 good at Defense, since it’s been working well for me. But then again like I said before, I have barely any competitive parts. Same question for Attack

(Jul. 08, 2018  1:16 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Jul. 07, 2018  11:55 PM)Spideyblade Wrote: I don’t have any true basis since I barely have any competitive parts, but is Orpheus O2 good at Defense, since it’s been working well for me. But then again like I said before, I have barely any competitive parts. Same question for Attack

Its too light to be competitive now

(Jul. 08, 2018  1:24 AM)Spideyblade Wrote:

(Jul. 08, 2018  1:16 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Its too light to be competitive now

Okay then. Quick Question, wouldn’t Roktavor be even lighter even though he’s made the list. Does he have anything specific to himself that allowed him to be top tier, or am I wrong about his weight? Thanks in advance!

(Jul. 13, 2018  2:42 PM)brandbrick Wrote: A2 5 Survive is a pretty good stamina/defense hybrid beyblade, but it’s sort of outclassed now, could be a substitute seeing how it beat Drain Fafnir 4G Orbit with 2 spin finishes, 1 draw, and 1 spin finish for Fafnir, so maybe you could add it to the Stamina list? It doesn’t do too well against attack types, considering I tested it against X3 8G Xtreme and X3 won with 1 burst finish, 1 knockout, and A2 had one spin finish.

(Jul. 14, 2018  12:18 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote:

(Jul. 08, 2018  1:24 AM)Spideyblade Wrote: Okay then. Quick Question, wouldn’t

be even lighter even though he’s made the list. Does he have anything specific to himself that allowed him to be top tier, or
am I wrong about his weight? Thanks in advance!

Roktavor has alot of burst attack potential
and bursts all the listed stamina/defense combos on a stationary setup orpheus o2 does do it.
Also roktavor would also be removed

put in the things to consider section too. 

(Jul. 13, 2018  2:42 PM)brandbrick Wrote: A2 5 Survive is a pretty good stamina/defense hybrid beyblade, but it’s
sort of outclassed now, could be a substitute seeing how it beat Drain Fafnir 4G Orbit with 2 spin finishes, 1 draw, and 1 spin finish for Fafnir, so maybe you could
add it to the Stamina list? It doesn’t do
too well against attack types, considering I tested it against X3 8G Xtreme and X3 won with 1 burst finish, 1 knockout, and A2 had
one spin finish.

Survive cannot be used anymore its
outclassed , a2 is being tested atm

(Jul. 14, 2018  2:54 AM)brandbrick Wrote: What else could work then?? Revolve maybe? I don’t have many parts so idk